What can be solved (but I don't know how): That book I mentioned said that
by Reagan's time in office, many of the CIA's most experienced and creative
risk-takers were retired. These were people who started with the OSS, and
pretty much invented tactics that we think are only appropriate in movies.
One of William Casey's frustrations was finding more people like this.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
That's one point and a good one.

They don't make good spies like they used to. Now they all seem to be
Valerie Palme.

The only thing Valerie Plame did wrong was to disprove some
of Vice President Cheney's pet theories about how to justify
starting a war for profit.

I guess when you put ideology above reality, you are
obligated to hate the guys (and women) who keep pointing out
that water really does run downhill.

DSK

DSK wrote:
What can be solved (but I don't know how): That book I mentioned said
that by Reagan's time in office, many of the CIA's most experienced
and creative risk-takers were retired. These were people who started
with the OSS, and pretty much invented tactics that we think are only
appropriate in movies. One of William Casey's frustrations was
finding more people like this.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
That's one point and a good one.

They don't make good spies like they used to. Now they all seem to be
Valerie Palme.

The only thing Valerie Plame did wrong was to disprove some of Vice
President Cheney's pet theories about how to justify starting a war for
profit.

Valarie Plame wasn't in a policy making job she was just an analyst for
the previous five years.

I guess when you put ideology above reality, you are obligated to hate
the guys (and women) who keep pointing out that water really does run
downhill.

If you disagree with the direction your employer, I reiterate employer,
wants to go in you have the ability to quit and say whatever you want.
Whether you have intestinal fortitude to to quit is another issue.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
DSK wrote:
What can be solved (but I don't know how): That book I mentioned said
that by Reagan's time in office, many of the CIA's most experienced and
creative risk-takers were retired. These were people who started with
the OSS, and pretty much invented tactics that we think are only
appropriate in movies. One of William Casey's frustrations was finding
more people like this.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
That's one point and a good one.

They don't make good spies like they used to. Now they all seem to be
Valerie Palme.

The only thing Valerie Plame did wrong was to disprove some of Vice
President Cheney's pet theories about how to justify starting a war for
profit.

Valarie Plame wasn't in a policy making job she was just an analyst for
the previous five years.

I guess when you put ideology above reality, you are obligated to hate
the guys (and women) who keep pointing out that water really does run
downhill.

If you disagree with the direction your employer, I reiterate employer,
wants to go in you have the ability to quit and say whatever you want.
Whether you have intestinal fortitude to to quit is another issue.

You also have the option of staying, and criticizing the employer,
especially when he is killing teenagers for fun. It's up to the employer to
fire you. Some employers might have the intestinal fortitude to actually
fire you and not be ashamed to tell the country why. Others would be sneaky
about it.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
DSK wrote:
What can be solved (but I don't know how): That book I mentioned said
that by Reagan's time in office, many of the CIA's most experienced and
creative risk-takers were retired. These were people who started with
the OSS, and pretty much invented tactics that we think are only
appropriate in movies. One of William Casey's frustrations was finding
more people like this.
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
That's one point and a good one.

They don't make good spies like they used to. Now they all seem to be
Valerie Palme.
The only thing Valerie Plame did wrong was to disprove some of Vice
President Cheney's pet theories about how to justify starting a war for
profit.
Valarie Plame wasn't in a policy making job she was just an analyst for
the previous five years.

I guess when you put ideology above reality, you are obligated to hate
the guys (and women) who keep pointing out that water really does run
downhill.
If you disagree with the direction your employer, I reiterate employer,
wants to go in you have the ability to quit and say whatever you want.
Whether you have intestinal fortitude to to quit is another issue.

You also have the option of staying, and criticizing the employer,
especially when he is killing teenagers for fun. It's up to the employer to
fire you. Some employers might have the intestinal fortitude to actually
fire you and not be ashamed to tell the country why. Others would be sneaky
about it.

Bush is a fair minded man and he decided to let Plame continue to be
employed. However, Plame decided to terminate her employment.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
DSK wrote:


I guess when you put ideology above reality, you are obligated to hate
the guys (and women) who keep pointing out that water really does run
downhill.

If you disagree with the direction your employer, I reiterate employer,
wants to go in you have the ability to quit and say whatever you want.
Whether you have intestinal fortitude to to quit is another issue.


In a nutshell, DSK defined the problem with liebrals