Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 389
Default Strange legal mess - boat.

I suggest you explain the situation to the chester nh police and see
where they go from there. I would do it in a polite letter and keep a
copy. They may decide that pursuing you a thousand miles away is not
worth their trouble given you are not really the responsible party.

Variations of this happen fairly regularly with wrecked and close to
valueless vehicles. People buy them with some intention of doing
something that never happens. What official paper work there is all
continues to have the original owner's name. Eventually some of these
vehicles get abandoned and the local authorities track the original
owner down. Best bet is to save copies of b-of-s forever.
Particularly in cases where there are reasons for the new owner to not
immediately retitle.

gprimerib wrote:
basskisser wrote:
Clams Canino wrote:
"Tom G" wrote in message news:70Xzg.4082

And in Wisconsin, to the North, they aren't even registered or titled.
Furthermore, the only recourse the towing company would have against you
is
to obtain title to the trailer and boat in lieu of storage and towing
fees.
Therefore, it may be that the only reason the police are even bothering
you
is to give notice that the next step unless you wish to pursue the issue
is
to let the towing company proceed. You might call the towing company,
tell
them your story and offer to send them a quit claim to any ownership you
might have in the trailer/boat. It might make it easier for them to
acquire
title. Be sure however to make it clear that you aren't acknowledging
that
you even have any ownership interest anymore.

While the "not a motor vehicle" argument needs to be researched.... in NH
title to said towed vehicle is far from only recourse.

-W


After you sold it, was the trailer ever registered legally by the new
owner?


Michigan now makes the seller of stuff (car, boat, bike, etc) retain
proof of sale for 18 months -OR- they must accompany the buyer to
Secretary of State to make sure the ownership is transferred. That is
done just for this abandonment reason; the state wants to nail anyone
that dumps a vehicle.. But in your case: 3 years later, yikes. Guess
I should plan on saving my proof of sale receipts a little longer.


  #2   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 294
Default Strange legal mess - boat.


"basskisser" wrote in message

After you sold it, was the trailer ever registered legally by the new
owner?



No, thus the lack of a paper trail......

-W



  #3   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 390
Default Strange legal mess - boat.

While living in AZ. I sold a van that the new owner took to California.
Since plates went with the vehicle, I left them on.


Do not EVER give someone else your plates. Some states require you to
relinquish the tags upon transfer (or expiration, etc). Giving them to
someone else invites just this sort of problem.

I "forgot" to tell her that California
was looking for her for the parking tickets but after getting the title, I
wrote to California and gave them her address and that was the end of

that.

Given the insanity that is Kalifornia I wouldn't be surprised if she had
some recourse against you for failing to inform her of that. grin But
it's good to hear they actually stopped bugging you for it.

  #4   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 39
Default Strange legal mess - boat.

Hire a lawyer. Not worth that? Pay the fees and fine.
  #5   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 294
Default Strange legal mess - boat.


"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
. ..
Hire a lawyer. Not worth that? Pay the fees and fine.


You obviously don't know me - at all.

-W




  #6   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
MMC MMC is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 5
Default Strange legal mess - boat.


"Clams Canino" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Richard J Kinch" wrote in message
. ..
Hire a lawyer. Not worth that? Pay the fees and fine.


You obviously don't know me - at all.

-W


Kinch is an ambulance chaser, waddaya expect him to say?


  #7   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,978
Default Strange legal mess - boat.


Richard J Kinch wrote:
Hire a lawyer. Not worth that? Pay the fees and fine.


Don't do it, Clams. Stand up for yourself.

  #8   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
DSK DSK is offline
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,419
Default Strange legal mess - boat.

Clams Canino wrote:
Hi!

You all prolly remember when my old boat was hit by a drunk driver in late
July of 2003. As the story goes the insurance company paid us off for the
boat, left it with us, and I removed the outboard and then sold the boat for
something like $400 in August of '03 This was three years ago. All I
remember was that I gave the guy a bill of sale and that he was from
Londonderry NH. The name escapes us. He went away happy and that was the
last we've seen or heard of him and the boat.

Anyway.... about three weeks ago...... this same boat and trailer "appeared"
abandoned in the middle of a road in nearby Chester NH. So far thier
"minimal" investigation has not turned up the last owner and since the boat
and trailer was "wrecked" when I sold them I merely sold it with an "as is"
bill of sale.


Did you get the bill of sale notarized? That would help.

Another thing that would normally help is the insurance
company's notice that you sold the boat... wouldn't have
happened in this case...

Some states have very steep penalties for abandoning boats;
particularly Florida. Boats are expensive to put in a
landfill and when they are abandoned, it creates a problem
(and a burden on taxpayers).

Every time I sell anything... car, boat, trailer... I get a
bill of sale notarized & keep a copy of it in my safe
deposit box for at least ten years. I have one for every car
I've ever owned... I should check on the boats too, next
time I go in there.

Fair Skies- Doug King

  #9   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 902
Default Strange legal mess - boat.

On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 04:48:06 +0000, Clams Canino wrote:



The last owner of
record of a motor vehicle found abandoned, as shown by the files of the
department, shall be deemed prima facie to have been the owner of such
motor vehicle at the time it was abandoned and to have been the person who
abandoned the motor vehicle or caused or procured its abandonment.


Prima facie has an interesting meaning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prima_facie

Have you called the Chester Police? I'm guessing a call, and sending any
documentation you might have, might be enough to make this go away.
Believe it or not, I have found putting a counter in front of a bureaucrat
makes them stupid, but they tend to retain their sense of justice. If a
call isn't enough, someone on the other end of the line, should be able to
give you the 35 steps needed to make it go away.


  #10   Report Post  
posted to rec.boats
external usenet poster
 
First recorded activity by BoatBanter: Jul 2006
Posts: 294
Default Strange legal mess - boat.


"thunder" wrote in message

Have you called the Chester Police? I'm guessing a call, and sending any
documentation you might have, might be enough to make this go away.
Believe it or not, I have found putting a counter in front of a bureaucrat
makes them stupid, but they tend to retain their sense of justice. If a
call isn't enough, someone on the other end of the line, should be able to
give you the 35 steps needed to make it go away.


I've talked to the Chester police... what they want is to stick someone
BESIDES Chester with the bill for towing, storage, and disposal of the boat.
What they want is MONEY, something I'm not willing to be extorted out of.

-W




Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
rec.boats.paddle sea kayaking FAQ [email protected] General 0 January 18th 06 05:48 AM
rec.boats.paddle sea kayaking FAQ [email protected] General 0 December 19th 05 05:37 AM
Dictionary of Paddling Terms :-) Mike McCrea General 3 June 30th 04 11:52 PM
rec.boats.paddle sea kayaking FAQ [email protected] General 0 April 17th 04 12:28 PM
rec.boats.paddle sea kayaking FAQ [email protected] General 0 March 18th 04 09:15 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:57 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2025 BoatBanter.com.
The comments are property of their posters.
 

About Us

"It's about Boats"

 

Copyright © 2017