Hello

First thanks in advance to all posters!
BACKGROUND:
I just bought a 1986 21 foot sea ray cuddy with markings on the side of
the boat 210 CSL and Sun Runner (think it is a sea ray, maybe not),
chevy/merc stern drive 260hp. No manuals or boat info, very clean and
great motor.
ISSUE:
On the instrument panel I have a silver joy stick that is six
directionial, from top working clock wise it says 1. bow up 2.
starboard up 3. starboard down 4. bow down 5. port down 6. port up. Is
this trim control? No wires hooked up to it. A new shifter has been
put in and it has a up down tilt switch on it.

First day on the water (loved it) boat would (not sure about correct
terminology) severily lisp to side of extra adult at all speeds. Is
this trim control for that issue and can it be rehooked up or not?
Does this boat have trim control or do you get rid of lisp different
way, yes i made adults moved around but if at speed took a while to
correct.

Hope some one knows something.

Thanks
Mike Rueff
Clinton Ut

ps any info on the boat in general would be great help also info on how
to take care of it (new boat owner, graduated form PWC to boat!!)

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Hello

First thanks in advance to all posters!
BACKGROUND:
I just bought a 1986 21 foot sea ray cuddy with markings on the side of
the boat 210 CSL and Sun Runner (think it is a sea ray, maybe not),
chevy/merc stern drive 260hp. No manuals or boat info, very clean and
great motor.
ISSUE:
On the instrument panel I have a silver joy stick that is six
directionial, from top working clock wise it says 1. bow up 2.
starboard up 3. starboard down 4. bow down 5. port down 6. port up. Is
this trim control? No wires hooked up to it. A new shifter has been
put in and it has a up down tilt switch on it.

First day on the water (loved it) boat would (not sure about correct
terminology) severily lisp to side of extra adult at all speeds. Is
this trim control for that issue and can it be rehooked up or not?
Does this boat have trim control or do you get rid of lisp different
way, yes i made adults moved around but if at speed took a while to
correct.

Hope some one knows something.

Thanks
Mike Rueff
Clinton Ut

ps any info on the boat in general would be great help also info on how
to take care of it (new boat owner, graduated form PWC to boat!!)

If you can identify the brand of trim tabs you should be able to contact the
manufacturer and get some wiring diagrams. If the tabs are in place and you
can locate a trim pump somewhere near the engine, chances are you can locate
a trim tab wiring harness near the dash. If you can get them working you
will realize what an asset they are to your size boat.
Jim

To be clearer, that switch suggests that the boat has trim tabs in
addition to the ability for the outdrive to be trimmed. They would be
square and mounted at the edges of the boat on either side of the
outdrive. They can be used to compensate for uneven loads side to side
as well as front to back. If you do see the tabs on either side get
someone to operate the silver switch while you watch them. That sounds
like a bennett switch. I never likes the human factor aspect of their
controls. Basically the tabs will do exactly the opposite of the
switch. In other words pushing the switch up makes the tabs go down.

The trim control on the shifter will tilt the engine up and down. This
can also be used to assist in getting on plane and to compensate for
uneven loads. But it can only help fore to aft.

Normally on an i/o boat with trim tabs you start out with the tabs
retracted and the outdrive trimmed down. The outdrive trimmed down
assists with getting on plane. After you accelerate and get on plane
you trim the outdrive to the center position, it should have a position
gauge btw. And then adjust the boat's level with the trim tabs. Most
trim tabs do not have a position indicator so you adjust them by how
they affect the boat while underway. If you do have a trim tab
position indicator it will have one display for each tab. Unlike your
outdrive trim gauge which basically is just a single needle.

You may also use the trim tabs to hold the nose down in choppy water
reducing porpoising.

Hope all that helps and enjoy your new boat.

Jim wrote:
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Hello

First thanks in advance to all posters!
BACKGROUND:
I just bought a 1986 21 foot sea ray cuddy with markings on the side of
the boat 210 CSL and Sun Runner (think it is a sea ray, maybe not),
chevy/merc stern drive 260hp. No manuals or boat info, very clean and
great motor.
ISSUE:
On the instrument panel I have a silver joy stick that is six
directionial, from top working clock wise it says 1. bow up 2.
starboard up 3. starboard down 4. bow down 5. port down 6. port up. Is
this trim control? No wires hooked up to it. A new shifter has been
put in and it has a up down tilt switch on it.

First day on the water (loved it) boat would (not sure about correct
terminology) severily lisp to side of extra adult at all speeds. Is
this trim control for that issue and can it be rehooked up or not?
Does this boat have trim control or do you get rid of lisp different
way, yes i made adults moved around but if at speed took a while to
correct.

Hope some one knows something.

Thanks
Mike Rueff
Clinton Ut

ps any info on the boat in general would be great help also info on how
to take care of it (new boat owner, graduated form PWC to boat!!)

If you can identify the brand of trim tabs you should be able to contact the
manufacturer and get some wiring diagrams. If the tabs are in place and you
can locate a trim pump somewhere near the engine, chances are you can locate
a trim tab wiring harness near the dash. If you can get them working you
will realize what an asset they are to your size boat.
Jim

could be a bennet v35t, have a set of 4 wires that run from box next to
engine up to front of boat but are not hooked up?

Thanks

That sounds like the bennett setup. I have a set of their tabs and
there is 4 colored wires from the hydralic pump going to the control.
You have to also run 12v+ to the switch and ground the hydralic pump.
One of the wires runs the pump forward, tabs down. The other runs the
pump backward, tabs up. The other two wires open the little solenoid
valves that aer on the outlets to each tab. That lets you move the
tabs independently. The wires simply plug into the connections on the
back of the silver switch but I don't know which wire goes where, might
be labeled on the back of the switch.

I can't help you with the wire connections because my switch crapped
out and I replaced it with a regular dpdt momentary contact switch,
$4.99, from radio shack. Not wanting to pay bennett $60 for another
switch.

wrote:
could be a bennet v35t, have a set of 4 wires that run from box next to
engine up to front of boat but are not hooked up?

Thanks

It is a bennett, I was able to trace all the wires and tubes. Its does
not look to be hooked up. 2 hoses come off the pump, one goes to the
port side stern to a 90 degree nipple inside of stern, matches to out
side of port trim arm. Other tube is cut and has a nice little spider
nest in it guess I need to hook this up first then switch and
power. Any tips I need to know before I start?

Thanks to all the posters again, has been very helpful!

I believe they use compression fitttings on the tubing. If I remember
correctly they had those little brass inserts that went inside the
tubing as well as the brass collar that compressed. You may be able to
just get a fitting to splice the cut tube from lowes. I believe the
fitting that went through the transom was pipe thread where it connects
to the hydralic cylinders on the outside and can be unscrewed form the
inside. I put atf fluid in mine. Power steering fluid probably works
as well as any other light oil.

You do need to make sure that you don't apply power to both directions
at once. The motor seems to have independent windings for forward and
reverse rather than actually reversing the polarity. If you have to
experiment with the switch to figure out which wire goes where keep
that in mind.

The motor goes slower in reverse. I presume so that the retract speed
is about the same as the extend speed. Mine takes about 8 seconds to
go fully in either direction. There is no load shutoff or pressure
relief on mine so it will stall or come close to stalling at full
extension and full retraction. I try not to do that too long as I
figure it can't be good for it.

wrote:
It is a bennett, I was able to trace all the wires and tubes. Its does
not look to be hooked up. 2 hoses come off the pump, one goes to the
port side stern to a 90 degree nipple inside of stern, matches to out
side of port trim arm. Other tube is cut and has a nice little spider
nest in it guess I need to hook this up first then switch and
power. Any tips I need to know before I start?

Thanks to all the posters again, has been very helpful!

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It is a bennett, I was able to trace all the wires and tubes. Its does
not look to be hooked up. 2 hoses come off the pump, one goes to the
port side stern to a 90 degree nipple inside of stern, matches to out
side of port trim arm. Other tube is cut and has a nice little spider
nest in it guess I need to hook this up first then switch and
power. Any tips I need to know before I start?

Thanks to all the posters again, has been very helpful!


Contact Bennett. The customer service is tops.