"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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DSK wrote:
The majority of Americans are moving backwards economically in terms of
earnings, and many have lost or are losing good employment, insurance,
even their houses.

Household income has been growing slower than credit card debt. What does
that tell you about the U.S. standard of living?


Eisboch wrote:
I don't know if the "majority" are or are not, but don't you see the
difference in thinking?
The average "Joe Swede" looks at an American moving backwards and can't,
for the life of him, understand why and may even long for the
opportunity that he thinks the American has.


Agreed... but the problem is that opportunity being outsourced to China
and you probably know more than most about how difficult it is to make
any innovation pay off.

The fact that the biggest U.S. growth industry for the last 8 years has
been lobbying, should say a lot about the US system and opportunity. The
fact the so-called conservatives have been in charge most of that time is
one reason why I am PO'd at the current gang of "conservatives" in
politics.

The U.S. is not a fair marketplace and those who shout the loudest about
opportunity & free markets are the ones who work the hardest to subvert
the rules in their own favor.

All that aside, I had a close partner in college who was a Swedish
engineering student. Very smart and also had quite a few observations
about similarities and differences between the U.S. and America. You'd
probably enjoy his perspective on Swedish socialized medicine... almost
everything is free, but if you need specialized treatment then you go
back after 5pm and be prepared to pay cash.

Regards
Doug King



As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health insurance
are in that category based on *their* decision not to carry it even though
they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford it?

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health
insurance are in that category based on *their* decision not to carry it
even though they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford it?


Considering the cost of hospital care, I think that if you CHOSE not to have
health insurance, and you could afford it, then "can afford it" has to mean
you're fabulously wealthy, or have a terminal disease and figure insurance
is pointless anyway.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news
As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health
insurance are in that category based on *their* decision not to carry it
even though they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford it?


Considering the cost of hospital care, I think that if you CHOSE not to have
health insurance, and you could afford it, then "can afford it" has to mean
you're fabulously wealthy, or have a terminal disease and figure insurance
is pointless anyway.


Nope. I never carried health insurance until I got married. My
choice. I was not wealthy but I could certainly afford it. When you
are young you are invincible........or so you think so. ;-)

"JimH" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news
As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health
insurance are in that category based on *their* decision not to carry
it
even though they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford
it?


Considering the cost of hospital care, I think that if you CHOSE not to
have
health insurance, and you could afford it, then "can afford it" has to
mean
you're fabulously wealthy, or have a terminal disease and figure
insurance
is pointless anyway.


Nope. I never carried health insurance until I got married. My
choice. I was not wealthy but I could certainly afford it. When you
are young you are invincible........or so you think so. ;-)


Oh. I thought you were talking about normal people. You're talking about
numbskulls blinded by images of constant beer and pussy.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news
As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health
insurance are in that category based on *their* decision not to carry
it
even though they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford
it?


Considering the cost of hospital care, I think that if you CHOSE not to
have
health insurance, and you could afford it, then "can afford it" has to
mean
you're fabulously wealthy, or have a terminal disease and figure
insurance
is pointless anyway.


Nope. I never carried health insurance until I got married. My
choice. I was not wealthy but I could certainly afford it. When you
are young you are invincible........or so you think so. ;-)


Oh. I thought you were talking about normal people. You're talking about
numbskulls blinded by images of constant beer and pussy.

Trying to carry on an adult level conversation with you is impossible
Doug. I gave it a shot but you keep proving my theory is correct.

Have a nice day Doug but I am done with you for a while. Maybe I will
give you another chance in a month or so.

"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news
As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health
insurance are in that category based on *their* decision not to
carry
it
even though they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford
it?


Considering the cost of hospital care, I think that if you CHOSE not
to
have
health insurance, and you could afford it, then "can afford it" has to
mean
you're fabulously wealthy, or have a terminal disease and figure
insurance
is pointless anyway.


Nope. I never carried health insurance until I got married. My
choice. I was not wealthy but I could certainly afford it. When you
are young you are invincible........or so you think so. ;-)


Oh. I thought you were talking about normal people. You're talking about
numbskulls blinded by images of constant beer and pussy.

Trying to carry on an adult level conversation with you is impossible
Doug. I gave it a shot but you keep proving my theory is correct.

Have a nice day Doug but I am done with you for a while. Maybe I will
give you another chance in a month or so.


All males between the ages of 17 and 25 fit the category I described, unless
they're gay, in which case, you can substitute "badly flavored martinis and
naked men".

JimH wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
ups.com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
news
As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance ........snip

That is a misleading statement. How many of those without health
insurance are in that category based on *their* decision not to carry
it
even though they can afford it? How many because they cannot afford
it?


Considering the cost of hospital care, I think that if you CHOSE not to
have
health insurance, and you could afford it, then "can afford it" has to
mean
you're fabulously wealthy, or have a terminal disease and figure
insurance
is pointless anyway.


Nope. I never carried health insurance until I got married. My
choice. I was not wealthy but I could certainly afford it. When you
are young you are invincible........or so you think so. ;-)


Oh. I thought you were talking about normal people. You're talking about
numbskulls blinded by images of constant beer and pussy.

Trying to carry on an adult level conversation with you is impossible
Doug. I gave it a shot but you keep proving my theory is correct.

Have a nice day Doug but I am done with you for a while. Maybe I will
give you another chance in a month or so.

Wow, Jim's going to maybe give you another chance to speak to his
highness........