JimH wrote:
Conversely, just because *you* believe in it does not make it true.


Agreed.

But it's not just me.

Furthermore, just because the Economist says that the folks in Finland
and other socialist countries believe that have a higher standard of
living does not make it true.


Well, there you go.
Man did not fly to the moon either, and nobody can prove
otherwise.


If you studied economics, went there, measured their
standard of living in a way to satisfy yourself, then went
to several other countries to consult with top economists
and measure other things for yourself, your opinion may or
may not change but you'd certainly have a much stronger
basis. You wouldn't be one of those knee-jerk
ignoramo-fascists, either.






... I do not believe that people should rely on
the government for their existence or quality of life.

So don't take what the gov't offers. That is always an option.



I don't take things from the government. I do, however, pay more than
my fair share to it in order to support the dead beats who rely on the
government for their existence.

Really? Did you start out naked in the woods, and make every
single thing you own with your two hands?

You rely on the government for a lot more than you think you do.

DSK