Jeff wrote:
Capt. Bill wrote:
And owners of a 90' boat don't get to operate under a different set of
rules, believe me.

Whatever you say. Everyone, rich and poor, gets treated exactly the
same in our world.




Hi
I would also like to add while surfing (net) around one evening I found
a uscg.mil site that listed case "decisions" on foreign built vessels
that wanted some sort of uscg variance to give sailing lessons" in the
US Near Coast waters.

Once everyone on a boat is "actively engaged" in learning they are no
longer "passengers for hire" they become "students" and sailing lessons
can be conducted on foreign built boats. Uhh, can you read between the
lines on that one?????

Another interesting thing, outside the boundary line a sailing school
must have a licensed master. However, on inland waters....get
this........ there are a few states that all you need is the state's
"Guides & Packers" license. No uscg master or oupv needed on inland
waters for sailing lessons. Just think YMCA summer sailing lessons...
as an example

Sole Proprietor, Schedule C
Bob

Bob wrote:
....
Another interesting thing, outside the boundary line a sailing school
must have a licensed master. However, on inland waters....get
this........ there are a few states that all you need is the state's
"Guides & Packers" license. No uscg master or oupv needed on inland
waters for sailing lessons. Just think YMCA summer sailing lessons...
as an example

I'm guessing these "inland waters" are actually State regulated bodies
of water that are not covers by the US Inland rules. This would
include most of the lakes in New England, for example, where the camps
are.

These state rules are often quite different, and will include things
like "human powered vessels have right of way over sailboats," which
are totally ignored by the ColRegs or Inland Rules.

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Bob wrote:
...
Another interesting thing, outside the boundary line a sailing school
must have a licensed master. However, on inland waters....get
this........ there are a few states that all you need is the state's
"Guides & Packers" license. No uscg master or oupv needed on inland
waters for sailing lessons. Just think YMCA summer sailing lessons...
as an example

I'm guessing these "inland waters" are actually State regulated bodies of
water that are not covers by the US Inland rules. This would include most
of the lakes in New England, for example, where the camps are.

These state rules are often quite different, and will include things like
"human powered vessels have right of way over sailboats," which are
totally ignored by the ColRegs or Inland Rules.

Well, not completely... Rule 25

see page 72 of Navigation Rules... Sailing Vessels Underway and Vessels
Under Oars :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Jeff wrote:
Bob wrote:

However, on inland waters....get
this........ there are a few states that all you need is the state's
"Guides & Packers" license. No uscg master or oupv needed on inland
waters for sailing lessons. Just think YMCA summer sailing lessons...
as an example


I'm guessing these "inland waters" are actually State regulated bodies
of water that are not covers by the US Inland rules. This would
include most of the lakes in New England, for example, where the camps
are.

Yes, I thought the same thing.. however when I contacted both Oregon
and Washington states seems it is any waters inside the Boundry Line;
Columbia River, Puget Sound etc. Just and interesting side note.
Personnaly I strongle disagree trying to find a loop holes in uscg
licensing CFRs. There are a few out there for those who want to abuse
the spirit of a CFR. Here is another hole.

Using your boat as a bare boat charter operation and then claiming 100%
of all expences as a loss and therefor able to deduct that loss from
your other income. A couple years ago lots of people got a surprise by
the IRS.

There are holes but I wold not want to be the person who was the poster
boy for increased government oversight.