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Wayne.B June 15th 06 12:59 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:21:19 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:

"Manhattan style clam chowder"

Isn't that oxymoronic? :-)


Not at all. Any well rtaveled northeasterner knows there are three
kinds of clam chowder: Manhattan, New England and Rhode Island. RI
chowder is kind of a cross between NE and NYC, thicker base like NE,
but with tomatoes.


JoeSpareBedroom June 15th 06 01:05 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 22:21:19 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:

"Manhattan style clam chowder"

Isn't that oxymoronic? :-)


Not at all. Any well rtaveled northeasterner knows there are three
kinds of clam chowder: Manhattan, New England and Rhode Island. RI
chowder is kind of a cross between NE and NYC, thicker base like NE,
but with tomatoes.


Oh....wait....creamy, but slightly red, like lobster bisque? We'd better as
Mr. Gaggin if that's authentic.



JimH June 15th 06 01:31 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:
On 14 Jun 2006 09:13:21 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:

JimH wrote:
Another decent thread sent down the toilet. Don't you guys have
anything
better to do than argue over chowder?
Jim, you should be the last person on earth to chastise others about
anything that is said, or written in this newsgroup in regards to a
particular thread. Shall I google you up some of your recent gems?
Also, you do realize you don't have to read them, don't you?
Looks like Jim's trying to qualify for a badge. I wonder if he notes
the
hypocrisy in his statement.
Are you saying he is fighting for your rice bowl?


He can keep it. Imagine folks getting upset over me asking others they
are fighting over the definition of all things..... chowder.

And John once again focuses his attention on me, although he says he
killfiled me.

Oh well.

BTW: Great pics of the fox and the raccoon at the other place Harry.
Looks like you have quite a lot of wildlife visiting you.



We also have possums, squirrels, and who knows what else.


We also have quite a variety of wildlife in our back yard (wooded),
including deer (kaboom), squirrels, chipmunks, raccoons and
unfortunately.......skunks. We also have a nice variety of birds that we
enjoy watching at the feeders and bird baths.



JoeSpareBedroom June 15th 06 01:36 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

We also have quite a variety of wildlife in our back yard (wooded),
including deer (kaboom), squirrels, chipmunks, raccoons and
unfortunately.......skunks. We also have a nice variety of birds that we
enjoy watching at the feeders and bird baths.


Put away the coloring book and stop drooling.



John Gaquin June 15th 06 01:38 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message


So, something which existed long before you were born no longer exists
because you don't like the name? That's rich! :-)

Main Entry: 2chowder
Function: noun
Etymology: French chaudière kettle, contents of a kettle, from Late Latin
caldaria -- more at CAULDRON
: a soup or stew of seafood (as clams or fish) usually made with milk or
tomatoes, salt pork, onions, and other vegetables (as potatoes); also : a
soup resembling chowder


I have unimpeachable documentation that the researcher and editor who
assembled this Merriam-Webster entry are both New Yorkers.

QED

:-)




John Gaquin June 15th 06 01:45 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"basskisser" wrote in message

Really? What do you have that states such? Who ever told you that
chowder can't have tomato in it? This is what dictionary.com has on the
subject:


A thick soup containing fish or shellfish, especially clams, and
vegetables, such as potatoes and onions, in a milk or tomato base.
A soup similar to this seafood dish: corn chowder.


Notice is says right there "milk OR TOMATO base"????


From Merriam Webster:


Main Entry: 2chowder
Function: noun
Etymology: French chaudière kettle, contents of a kettle, from Late
Latin caldaria -- more at CAULDRON
: a soup or stew of seafood (as clams or fish) usually made with milk
or tomatoes, salt pork, onions, and other vegetables (as potatoes);
also : a soup resembling chowder



Notice is says right there "milk OR TOMATO base"????


Both the dictionary.com and the Merriam-Webster entries were done by New
Yorkers, so they don't count.


....claim to have made it their own by *******izing it beyond
all recognition. :-)


Please show me any research that states that a chowder can not contain
tomatoes.....


No research required. I have primary sources that support my argument,
comprising my whole extended family and virtually the entire population of
Boston.

:-)



John Gaquin June 15th 06 02:01 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message

Oh....wait....creamy, but slightly red, like lobster bisque? We'd better
as Mr. Gaggin if that's authentic.


Bisque is an entirely different thing. French, but still OK, particularly
if its lobster. :-)



John Gaquin June 15th 06 02:13 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message


Rhode Island clam chowder? Never heard of such a thing!! Eaten with "clam
cakes", I suppose? :-)

I did hear that back in colonial times, after Mr. Williams left
Massachusetts Bay Colony to set up his own colony, the Mass Bay Colony
elders allowed that any resident of the Massachusetts Bay Colony observing a
Providence colonist (Rhode Islander) entering Massachusetts could shoot said
Rhode Islander on sight. I've also heard that this statute has never
actually been repealed, although I can't confirm the latter.

:-)



Wayne.B June 15th 06 02:21 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 21:13:54 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:

Rhode Island clam chowder? Never heard of such a thing!!


Have you ever been to Rhode Island?


John Gaquin June 15th 06 02:30 AM

*This* chowda is delicious!
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message

...Never heard of such a thing!!


Have you ever been to Rhode Island?


The two are not necessarily hand-in-hand. In point of fact I have been to
RI often and regularly, literally thousands of times over the past 50+
years. Patronized restaurants, ordered New England Clam Chowder, can't ever
recall seeing RI style. Interesting.




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