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JohnH May 15th 06 08:14 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:21:40 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
roups.com...


I'm betting he won't get it! If he does, he certainly owes yet another
of his apologies.


I sincerely hope he gets it. Otherwise, his posts will live for eternity
in the archives of Google and someday, when we're all gone and some of
Shortwave's friends have taken over planet Earth, they'll still be trying to
explain it to him.

RCE


Yesterday my daughter called me. She had google 'running for renee' or
'race for the cure' and came across JimH's posts. She called me to ask who
the (nasty words) was JimH. She couldn't believe someone would make
accusations like that with the little knowledge he had.

The archives are already getting hits!
--
'Til next time,

John H

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basskisser May 15th 06 08:33 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.


Me too, backwards.


Uh, no.....


JohnH May 15th 06 08:34 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On 15 May 2006 05:31:05 -0700, "JimH" wrote:

Since you insist Kevin:

John claimed "I'm especially appreciative of you folks. Seventeen
rec.boaters have
donated a total of $825, for an average donation of $48.53.
Remarkable!"

Later another person from rec.boats donated another $450 to get him at
his goal. That made $1,275 in rec.boats contributions.

John donated $650. He did not triple any donations......he did not
double any donations.....he did not match the rec. boats contributions,
although at one point or another he claimed he would do so.


Another lie. Jim. You received the confirmation of the donation I made
matching yours.


--
'Til next time,

John H

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basskisser May 15th 06 08:34 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:21:40 -0400, "RCE" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
roups.com...


I'm betting he won't get it! If he does, he certainly owes yet another
of his apologies.


I sincerely hope he gets it. Otherwise, his posts will live for eternity
in the archives of Google and someday, when we're all gone and some of
Shortwave's friends have taken over planet Earth, they'll still be trying to
explain it to him.

RCE


Yesterday my daughter called me. She had google 'running for renee' or
'race for the cure' and came across JimH's posts. She called me to ask who
the (nasty words) was JimH. She couldn't believe someone would make
accusations like that with the little knowledge he had.

The archives are already getting hits!
--
'Til next time,

John H


His actions are truly pathetic.


JohnH May 15th 06 08:54 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On 15 May 2006 05:40:51 -0700, "Reginald P. Smithers"
wrote:

You have no interest in the "cause",you have done everything to
discourage JohnH and others from contributing to the "cause", you only
have an interest in belittling JohnH for his efforts.

You are a little person and you prove this with every one of your posts
concerning this matter.

Fair enough?

Now can we move on?


This whole thing is getting hilarious. He said he had killfiled you, but I
guess he hadn't.

The race was spectacular, even though my daughter was in a wheel chair for
the whole thing. Day after tomorrow she goes in for the hysterectomy and
thyroidectomy. I'll go down for the operation. Hopefully the weather will
be nice enough to allow for a nice motorcycle ride.

Your comment was appropriate, but I wouldn't waste any more time on him.
He's making up more lies as he goes, and it's just not worth it.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH May 15th 06 08:59 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On Mon, 15 May 2006 15:26:12 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:19:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
You have no interest in the "cause",you have done everything to
discourage JohnH and others from contributing to the "cause", you only
have an interest in belittling JohnH for his efforts.

You are a little person and you prove this with every one of your posts
concerning this matter.

Fair enough?

Now can we move on?
Jim can not understand how his claims are flawed. I don't understand
why he can't it's so damned simple. If he'd just factor time into his
idiotic conclusions, he'd find that John has done exactly as he said he
would, AFTER he made statements.

Someone has to say it, in order to raise the level of this conversation:

George W. Bush sucks. Big time.

Heh ... *this* time your comment was welcome, Harry.

RCE



I'm for bringing back duels. In fact, I'll host them on my mowed field.
Shotguns at 25 yards are probably best for this group, since I doubt
there are more than three posters here who can hit the side of a barn at
that distance with a handgun.

Hey...I could sell tickets and send the proceeds to a favorite charity.
And no need for funerals; we'll just plow the losers into the ground for
fertilizer.


Just what *is* your favorite charity?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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******************************************


On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:19:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
You have no interest in the "cause",you have done everything to
discourage JohnH and others from contributing to the "cause", you only
have an interest in belittling JohnH for his efforts.

You are a little person and you prove this with every one of your posts
concerning this matter.

Fair enough?

Now can we move on?
Jim can not understand how his claims are flawed. I don't understand
why he can't it's so damned simple. If he'd just factor time into his
idiotic conclusions, he'd find that John has done exactly as he said he
would, AFTER he made statements.

Someone has to say it, in order to raise the level of this conversation:

George W. Bush sucks. Big time.

Heh ... *this* time your comment was welcome, Harry.

RCE



I'm for bringing back duels. In fact, I'll host them on my mowed field.
Shotguns at 25 yards are probably best for this group, since I doubt
there are more than three posters here who can hit the side of a barn at
that distance with a handgun.

Hey...I could sell tickets and send the proceeds to a favorite charity.
And no need for funerals; we'll just plow the losers into the ground for
fertilizer.


Just what *is* your favorite charity?



Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, United Jewish Appeal, and Lutheran
Charities, all of whom help support the local neediest.


All good, but you might broaden your horizons. Many of the 'neediest' also
suffer from some of the biggest medical problems like cancer and aids.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH May 15th 06 09:01 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On Mon, 15 May 2006 19:11:23 GMT, "SamJenson" wrote:


"basskisser" wrote in message
roups.com...


Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.


Me too, backwards.


I don't know about bk's brakes, but the right side of my trailer came with
a 'left side' brake. That caused me *lots* of problems until I figured it
out.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH May 15th 06 09:12 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:08:35 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:


Just what *is* your favorite charity?
--
'Til next time,

John H



I'm for bringing back duels. In fact, I'll host them on my mowed field.
Shotguns at 25 yards are probably best for this group, since I doubt
there are more than three posters here who can hit the side of a barn at
that distance with a handgun.

Hey...I could sell tickets and send the proceeds to a favorite charity.
And no need for funerals; we'll just plow the losers into the ground for
fertilizer.


Just what *is* your favorite charity?

Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, United Jewish Appeal, and Lutheran
Charities, all of whom help support the local neediest.


All good, but you might broaden your horizons. Many of the 'neediest' also
suffer from some of the biggest medical problems like cancer and aids.
--
'Til next time,

John H


All the charities I listed support the neediest who have serious medical
problems, such as cancer and AIDS.


But none of them do research to prevent, cure, or better treat the
problems.

I'm glad to see Lutheran charities on your list. Normally those folks get a
chunk of my change, but this year the priorities are elsewhere.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH May 15th 06 09:16 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Rather than explain it to you Richard, let me quote John directly:


++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06
I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Richard, did you catch that part "If the group donates $3500 and hits
the goal, it'll cost me $1750"?


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date John said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


No where does he say from this date forward or he would match "further"
or "future" donations. He plainly said he will match (dollar for
dollar) up to the goal. And he has not.

Spin it any way you want.

Have a nice evening.


NOYB May 15th 06 09:21 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
You have no interest in the "cause",you have done everything to
discourage JohnH and others from contributing to the "cause", you only
have an interest in belittling JohnH for his efforts.

You are a little person and you prove this with every one of your posts
concerning this matter.

Fair enough?

Now can we move on?




Well, this certainly is a step up from me teasing NOYB about Bush and the
Rasmussen poll.


Ah, the good ol' days.



JimH May 15th 06 09:23 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
JohnH penned:

"Your comment was appropriate, but I wouldn't waste any more time on
him.
He's making up more lies as he goes, and it's just not worth it."
--
'Til next time,

John H

I responded:


Lies?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06 you wrote:

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date you said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nothing about "from this time forward" or "all future donations". You
flat out said you would match the donations, up to the goal, something
you did not do.

Don't accuse me of lying John.


JimH May 15th 06 09:41 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
JohnH penned:

"Your comment was appropriate, but I wouldn't waste any more time on
him.
He's making up more lies as he goes, and it's just not worth it."
--
'Til next time,

John H

I responded:


Lies?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06 you wrote:

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date you said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nothing about "from this time forward" or "all future donations". You
flat out said you would match the donations, up to the goal, something
you did not do.

Don't accuse me of lying John.


BTW: My request for you living up to your promises ($1,275 donated by
rec.boats, you donated $650, you owe the fund another $625) is no different
than you asking for donations to the fund. It is all going towards the same
worthy cause.

Now instead of calling me names and accusing me of being a liar how about
just living up to your promise John. The Susan Komen foundation will
appreciate it. ;-)

You can make your $625 donation he http://tinyurl.com/28hzx



JimH May 15th 06 09:45 PM

Donate to the Salvation Army
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JohnH wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:19:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
You have no interest in the "cause",you have done everything to
discourage JohnH and others from contributing to the "cause", you
only
have an interest in belittling JohnH for his efforts.

You are a little person and you prove this with every one of your
posts
concerning this matter.

Fair enough?

Now can we move on?
Jim can not understand how his claims are flawed. I don't understand
why he can't it's so damned simple. If he'd just factor time into his
idiotic conclusions, he'd find that John has done exactly as he said
he
would, AFTER he made statements.

Someone has to say it, in order to raise the level of this
conversation:

George W. Bush sucks. Big time.

Heh ... *this* time your comment was welcome, Harry.

RCE


I'm for bringing back duels. In fact, I'll host them on my mowed field.
Shotguns at 25 yards are probably best for this group, since I doubt
there are more than three posters here who can hit the side of a barn at
that distance with a handgun.

Hey...I could sell tickets and send the proceeds to a favorite charity.
And no need for funerals; we'll just plow the losers into the ground for
fertilizer.


Just what *is* your favorite charity?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


On Mon, 15 May 2006 09:19:55 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
basskisser wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
You have no interest in the "cause",you have done everything to
discourage JohnH and others from contributing to the "cause", you
only
have an interest in belittling JohnH for his efforts.

You are a little person and you prove this with every one of your
posts
concerning this matter.

Fair enough?

Now can we move on?
Jim can not understand how his claims are flawed. I don't understand
why he can't it's so damned simple. If he'd just factor time into his
idiotic conclusions, he'd find that John has done exactly as he said
he
would, AFTER he made statements.

Someone has to say it, in order to raise the level of this
conversation:

George W. Bush sucks. Big time.

Heh ... *this* time your comment was welcome, Harry.

RCE


I'm for bringing back duels. In fact, I'll host them on my mowed field.
Shotguns at 25 yards are probably best for this group, since I doubt
there are more than three posters here who can hit the side of a barn at
that distance with a handgun.

Hey...I could sell tickets and send the proceeds to a favorite charity.
And no need for funerals; we'll just plow the losers into the ground for
fertilizer.


Just what *is* your favorite charity?



Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, United Jewish Appeal, and Lutheran
Charities, all of whom help support the local neediest.




The Salvation Army, the Susan Komen foundation and our Church receive all
our monetary charity donations.



SamJenson May 15th 06 09:54 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.


Me too, backwards.


Uh, no.....


I rest my case.



JimH May 15th 06 10:03 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
JohnH penned:

"Your comment was appropriate, but I wouldn't waste any more time on
him.
He's making up more lies as he goes, and it's just not worth it."
--
'Til next time,

John H

I responded:


Lies?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06 you wrote:

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date you said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nothing about "from this time forward" or "all future donations". You
flat out said you would match the donations, up to the goal, something
you did not do.

Don't accuse me of lying John.


JohnH May 15th 06 10:03 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:35:14 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:08:35 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Just what *is* your favorite charity?
--
'Til next time,

John H
I'm for bringing back duels. In fact, I'll host them on my mowed field.
Shotguns at 25 yards are probably best for this group, since I doubt
there are more than three posters here who can hit the side of a barn at
that distance with a handgun.

Hey...I could sell tickets and send the proceeds to a favorite charity.
And no need for funerals; we'll just plow the losers into the ground for
fertilizer.


Just what *is* your favorite charity?
Salvation Army, Catholic Charities, United Jewish Appeal, and Lutheran
Charities, all of whom help support the local neediest.
All good, but you might broaden your horizons. Many of the 'neediest' also
suffer from some of the biggest medical problems like cancer and aids.
--
'Til next time,

John H
All the charities I listed support the neediest who have serious medical
problems, such as cancer and AIDS.


But none of them do research to prevent, cure, or better treat the
problems.

I'm glad to see Lutheran charities on your list. Normally those folks get a
chunk of my change, but this year the priorities are elsewhere.
--
'Til next time,

John H



There's plenty of $$$ going to research, but not nearly enough going to
help people in this country who are suffering.


I agree. It's a shame we can't get more folks interested in some of the
church and other private organizations that do a world of good. My
son-in-law, in Richmond, is one of the bigwigs in the Goodwill organization
down there. They are involved in a lot more than I ever thought.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH May 15th 06 10:09 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:41:36 -0400, "JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT com
REMOVETHIS wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
roups.com...
JohnH penned:

"Your comment was appropriate, but I wouldn't waste any more time on
him.
He's making up more lies as he goes, and it's just not worth it."
--
'Til next time,

John H

I responded:


Lies?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06 you wrote:

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date you said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nothing about "from this time forward" or "all future donations". You
flat out said you would match the donations, up to the goal, something
you did not do.

Don't accuse me of lying John.


BTW: My request for you living up to your promises ($1,275 donated by
rec.boats, you donated $650, you owe the fund another $625) is no different
than you asking for donations to the fund. It is all going towards the same
worthy cause.

Now instead of calling me names and accusing me of being a liar how about
just living up to your promise John. The Susan Komen foundation will
appreciate it. ;-)

You can make your $625 donation he http://tinyurl.com/28hzx


Jim, put your head back where it belongs and STFU. You're not worth
explanations.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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******************************************

JimH May 15th 06 10:17 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:41:36 -0400, "JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT com
REMOVETHIS wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
groups.com...
JohnH penned:

"Your comment was appropriate, but I wouldn't waste any more time on
him.
He's making up more lies as he goes, and it's just not worth it."
--
'Til next time,

John H

I responded:


Lies?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06 you wrote:

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date you said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Nothing about "from this time forward" or "all future donations". You
flat out said you would match the donations, up to the goal, something
you did not do.

Don't accuse me of lying John.


BTW: My request for you living up to your promises ($1,275 donated by
rec.boats, you donated $650, you owe the fund another $625) is no
different
than you asking for donations to the fund. It is all going towards the
same
worthy cause.

Now instead of calling me names and accusing me of being a liar how about
just living up to your promise John. The Susan Komen foundation will
appreciate it. ;-)

You can make your $625 donation he http://tinyurl.com/28hzx


Jim, put your head back where it belongs and STFU. You're not worth
explanations.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************



You certainly are an angry person John. After all, how many people wake up
at 6:30 on a Sunday morning to make a 'nanabooboo, Jim is a liar' post?

Forget about the legal excuses and fine print you offered............go to
the fund and make the donation you promised.



RCE May 15th 06 10:21 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
Rather than explain it to you Richard, let me quote John directly:


++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06
I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Richard, did you catch that part "If the group donates $3500 and hits
the goal, it'll cost me $1750"?


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date John said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


No where does he say from this date forward or he would match "further"
or "future" donations. He plainly said he will match (dollar for
dollar) up to the goal. And he has not.

Spin it any way you want.

Have a nice evening.


I give up. Curious though .... is English your native language?

RCE



JimH May 15th 06 10:48 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Crunch the numbers any way you want. Consider all the different
promises John made any way you want.

The bottom line is he did not live up to what he promised on his end.

Have a nice evening Richey.


RCE May 15th 06 10:58 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
Crunch the numbers any way you want. Consider all the different
promises John made any way you want.

The bottom line is he did not live up to what he promised on his end.

Have a nice evening Richey.


Thank you, I will.

And I also sleep well at night. Do you?

RCE



JimH May 15th 06 11:02 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Yes I do.

John apparently doesn't though based on the fact that he made this
'nanobooboo jim is a liar' post at around 6:30 last Sunday morning.

Have a nice evening.


Reginald P. Smithers May 16th 06 12:52 AM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
JimH,
My comments makes sense, and you have supported this from JohnH's first
post when you tried to "pressu" him not to promote his "team" Race
for the Cure. Wasn't that you who told him "enough already", you have
already gotten $3000 give it up already?

That sounds like someone whose only objective is to harass JohnH, and
really doesn't care about the cause.


SamJenson May 16th 06 12:56 AM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.


Me too, backwards.


Uh, no.....


Some proof for you. (from a Jeep site)

"Remember that the primary shoe ( the one with less friction material ) is
mounted toward the front of the car"

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoRearDrums1.htm



basskisser May 16th 06 12:53 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.

Me too, backwards.


Uh, no.....


I rest my case.


Good! I'm glad you agree with me.


basskisser May 16th 06 12:55 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

RCE wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
oups.com...
Rather than explain it to you Richard, let me quote John directly:


++++++++++++++++++++++++++

4-27-06
I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from
this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! ***If the group donates $3500
and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.****

Go for it!

--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Richard, did you catch that part "If the group donates $3500 and hits
the goal, it'll cost me $1750"?


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

2 1/2 hours later that same date John said:

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


No where does he say from this date forward or he would match "further"
or "future" donations. He plainly said he will match (dollar for
dollar) up to the goal. And he has not.

Spin it any way you want.

Have a nice evening.


I give up. Curious though .... is English your native language?

RCE


I TOLD you he wouldn't get it!!!!!! This is too funny. I really don't
think he's that dim, but he's caught up in a big pile of mistakes and
is trying his best to worm his way out of it, but then again.....maybe
the candle is out...


JimH May 16th 06 01:08 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Reggie penned:

"JimH,
My comments makes sense, and you have supported this from JohnH's first
post when you tried to "pressu" him not to promote his "team" Race
for the Cure. Wasn't that you who told him "enough already", you have
already gotten $3000 give it up already?

That sounds like someone whose only objective is to harass JohnH, and
really doesn't care about the cause. "


I responded:

Yes Reggie, I have not supported John and the cause:
=============================================
"JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT com REMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
We've reached $4000 in donations on the Racing for Renee website. That is
unreal!

I'm especially appreciative of you folks. Seventeen rec.boaters have
donated a total of $825, for an average donation of $48.53. Remarkable!

Thank you so much for your compassion and generosity.

You can see for yourself (and donate if you wish) at:

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/RacingforRenee

Again, THANKS!!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************




Congratulations John.




===============================
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:35:16 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:02:17 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
basskisser wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Yesterday morning the total contributions to the Susan G. Koman Breast
Cancer Foundation was less than $500. Right now it's within a dollar
of
being at $1100. Much of this came from the generosity of you guys, and
we
really appreciate it!

If any of you still care to make a small donation, please do so. The
web
site is:

[url] http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring

By now, those of you who've contributed should have received a 'thank
you'
email from me, in addition to the receipt for your income tax. If I've
let
one slip, chew on me for a while.
--
'Til next time,

John H



Good. I'm glad that people you consider "friends" here, even if online
only, have come around in a time of need.


That sounds a bit negative and John never used the word "friends".

The bottom line is that he has set a realistic goal and there are
enough
people here to hit that number without missing a meal.

Dan



Come on folks.

Does John consider only those who contribute to *his* cause as friends,
even
though others contribute to the same cause in a general way (it all goes
to
the same basic fund) and have done so for the past 20 years?? I don't
think
so.

For us..........we have been (substantial) contributors to this cause for
the past 20 or so years. Most importantly we have had personal
experiences
in the recent past with breast cancer.

As I said earlier to John, our thoughts and prayers are with his
daughter......perhaps the most important thing when you think about it.

With that said.......please keep the contributions and prayers coming for
John's daughter. I know that the emotions and pain that he, his wife
and
daughter are going through cannot be accurately described in words to
those
who have not gone through it. Yet I do know that spiritual support (as
well
as monetary for the breast cancer research) is appreciated.

I hope I did not speak out of line John. I was only trying to provide
some
additional support for a friend. ;-)


Please note that any contributions are not 'for John's daughter'.

Friendship and contributions have nothing to do with each other as far as
I'm concerned. There are some pretty staunch Liberals, and some pretty
staunch Conservatives in this group who've contributed to the foundation.
I
didn't understand your comment either, but I certainly wanted nothing
negative in the thread.

Hopefully, even 'non-friends' are reading this thread. If so, I'll give
them a chance to get even for any offenses I've committed...

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! If the group donates $3500 and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.

Go for it!


Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


OK, that convinced me to donate under your sponsorship John. ;-)

Way to go!




============================================

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
There's not a soul here that can't afford a $10 donation to a good cause!

Now take a break from arguing and do something nice for the females in
this
world.

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring
--
'Til next time,

John H




Our daughter is running in the Race for the Cure on May 20th in Columbus,
Ohio and has done so for the past 7 years. We have also been making
donations to the Susan Komen fund for the past 20 or so years. I assume all
donations for breast cancer research are funneled to that fund

I am sorry to hear about your daughter John and hope that she conquers this
disease. But please do not assume that folks are not supporting the funding
of the research because they have not responding to your request.

My prayers are with your daughter.




So how is that imaginary boat of yours doing Reggie? Care to share
some pics? ;-)


JimH May 16th 06 01:10 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Reggie penned:

"JimH,
My comments makes sense, and you have supported this from JohnH's first
post when you tried to "pressu" him not to promote his "team" Race
for the Cure. Wasn't that you who told him "enough already", you have
already gotten $3000 give it up already?

That sounds like someone whose only objective is to harass JohnH, and
really doesn't care about the cause. "


I responded:

Yes Reggie, I have not supported John and the cause:
=============================================
"JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT com REMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
We've reached $4000 in donations on the Racing for Renee website. That is
unreal!

I'm especially appreciative of you folks. Seventeen rec.boaters have
donated a total of $825, for an average donation of $48.53. Remarkable!

Thank you so much for your compassion and generosity.

You can see for yourself (and donate if you wish) at:

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/RacingforRenee

Again, THANKS!!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************




Congratulations John.




===============================
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:35:16 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:02:17 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
basskisser wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Yesterday morning the total contributions to the Susan G. Koman Breast
Cancer Foundation was less than $500. Right now it's within a dollar
of
being at $1100. Much of this came from the generosity of you guys, and
we
really appreciate it!

If any of you still care to make a small donation, please do so. The
web
site is:

[url] http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring

By now, those of you who've contributed should have received a 'thank
you'
email from me, in addition to the receipt for your income tax. If I've
let
one slip, chew on me for a while.
--
'Til next time,

John H



Good. I'm glad that people you consider "friends" here, even if online
only, have come around in a time of need.


That sounds a bit negative and John never used the word "friends".

The bottom line is that he has set a realistic goal and there are
enough
people here to hit that number without missing a meal.

Dan



Come on folks.

Does John consider only those who contribute to *his* cause as friends,
even
though others contribute to the same cause in a general way (it all goes
to
the same basic fund) and have done so for the past 20 years?? I don't
think
so.

For us..........we have been (substantial) contributors to this cause for
the past 20 or so years. Most importantly we have had personal
experiences
in the recent past with breast cancer.

As I said earlier to John, our thoughts and prayers are with his
daughter......perhaps the most important thing when you think about it.

With that said.......please keep the contributions and prayers coming for
John's daughter. I know that the emotions and pain that he, his wife
and
daughter are going through cannot be accurately described in words to
those
who have not gone through it. Yet I do know that spiritual support (as
well
as monetary for the breast cancer research) is appreciated.

I hope I did not speak out of line John. I was only trying to provide
some
additional support for a friend. ;-)


Please note that any contributions are not 'for John's daughter'.

Friendship and contributions have nothing to do with each other as far as
I'm concerned. There are some pretty staunch Liberals, and some pretty
staunch Conservatives in this group who've contributed to the foundation.
I
didn't understand your comment either, but I certainly wanted nothing
negative in the thread.

Hopefully, even 'non-friends' are reading this thread. If so, I'll give
them a chance to get even for any offenses I've committed...

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! If the group donates $3500 and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.

Go for it!


Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


OK, that convinced me to donate under your sponsorship John. ;-)

Way to go!




============================================

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
There's not a soul here that can't afford a $10 donation to a good cause!

Now take a break from arguing and do something nice for the females in
this
world.

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring
--
'Til next time,

John H




Our daughter is running in the Race for the Cure on May 20th in Columbus,
Ohio and has done so for the past 7 years. We have also been making
donations to the Susan Komen fund for the past 20 or so years. I assume all
donations for breast cancer research are funneled to that fund

I am sorry to hear about your daughter John and hope that she conquers this
disease. But please do not assume that folks are not supporting the funding
of the research because they have not responding to your request.

My prayers are with your daughter.




So how is that imaginary boat of yours doing Reggie? Care to share
some pics? ;-)


RCE May 16th 06 01:16 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


I TOLD you he wouldn't get it!!!!!! This is too funny. I really don't
think he's that dim, but he's caught up in a big pile of mistakes and
is trying his best to worm his way out of it, but then again.....maybe
the candle is out...



Yup. Gotta let this one die, but it was starting to get comical.

RCE



Reginald P. Smithers May 16th 06 01:27 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
What I think is so funny is JimH was all upset when JohnH made a few
comments about Race for Renee, but look at the number of comments JimH
has made concerning the "Scandal behind the Race for Renee".

I think he might want to forward this to the NYT or the Washington Post
for a more detailed follow up concerning Reneegate.


JimH May 16th 06 01:34 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
What I think is so funny is JimH was all upset when JohnH made a few
comments about Race for Renee, but look at the number of comments JimH
has made concerning the "Scandal behind the Race for Renee".

I think he might want to forward this to the NYT or the Washington Post
for a more detailed follow up concerning Reneegate.



Do you have some ulterior motive for sustaining this?




He wants to be a constant pimple on my ass and is doing a good job of it.

I cannot recall him ever posting something boating related that was
accurate, nor have I ever read posts from him talking about his boat.

He is a non boater who comes here to cause problems. That has been true
from day 1.



JimH May 16th 06 01:52 PM

Now: Reggie is a PITA
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
What I think is so funny is JimH was all upset when JohnH made a few
comments about Race for Renee, but look at the number of comments JimH
has made concerning the "Scandal behind the Race for Renee".

I think he might want to forward this to the NYT or the Washington Post
for a more detailed follow up concerning Reneegate.


Do you have some ulterior motive for sustaining this?




He wants to be a constant pimple on my ass and is doing a good job of it.

I cannot recall him ever posting something boating related that was
accurate, nor have I ever read posts from him talking about his boat.

He is a non boater who comes here to cause problems. That has been true
from day 1.



Yes, well, I pointed this out a long, long time ago.



He seems to have different targets depending on his mood. I recall you and
Bassy being his targets for several years.



basskisser May 16th 06 03:20 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

JimH wrote:
Reggie penned:

"JimH,
My comments makes sense, and you have supported this from JohnH's first
post when you tried to "pressu" him not to promote his "team" Race
for the Cure. Wasn't that you who told him "enough already", you have
already gotten $3000 give it up already?

That sounds like someone whose only objective is to harass JohnH, and
really doesn't care about the cause. "


I responded:

Yes Reggie, I have not supported John and the cause:
=============================================
"JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT com REMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
We've reached $4000 in donations on the Racing for Renee website. That is
unreal!

I'm especially appreciative of you folks. Seventeen rec.boaters have
donated a total of $825, for an average donation of $48.53. Remarkable!

Thank you so much for your compassion and generosity.

You can see for yourself (and donate if you wish) at:

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/RacingforRenee

Again, THANKS!!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************




Congratulations John.




===============================
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:35:16 -0400, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 21:02:17 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
arthlink.net...
basskisser wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Yesterday morning the total contributions to the Susan G. Koman Breast
Cancer Foundation was less than $500. Right now it's within a dollar
of
being at $1100. Much of this came from the generosity of you guys, and
we
really appreciate it!

If any of you still care to make a small donation, please do so. The
web
site is:

[url] http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring

By now, those of you who've contributed should have received a 'thank
you'
email from me, in addition to the receipt for your income tax. If I've
let
one slip, chew on me for a while.
--
'Til next time,

John H



Good. I'm glad that people you consider "friends" here, even if online
only, have come around in a time of need.


That sounds a bit negative and John never used the word "friends".

The bottom line is that he has set a realistic goal and there are
enough
people here to hit that number without missing a meal.

Dan



Come on folks.

Does John consider only those who contribute to *his* cause as friends,
even
though others contribute to the same cause in a general way (it all goes
to
the same basic fund) and have done so for the past 20 years?? I don't
think
so.

For us..........we have been (substantial) contributors to this cause for
the past 20 or so years. Most importantly we have had personal
experiences
in the recent past with breast cancer.

As I said earlier to John, our thoughts and prayers are with his
daughter......perhaps the most important thing when you think about it.

With that said.......please keep the contributions and prayers coming for
John's daughter. I know that the emotions and pain that he, his wife
and
daughter are going through cannot be accurately described in words to
those
who have not gone through it. Yet I do know that spiritual support (as
well
as monetary for the breast cancer research) is appreciated.

I hope I did not speak out of line John. I was only trying to provide
some
additional support for a friend. ;-)


Please note that any contributions are not 'for John's daughter'.

Friendship and contributions have nothing to do with each other as far as
I'm concerned. There are some pretty staunch Liberals, and some pretty
staunch Conservatives in this group who've contributed to the foundation.
I
didn't understand your comment either, but I certainly wanted nothing
negative in the thread.

Hopefully, even 'non-friends' are reading this thread. If so, I'll give
them a chance to get even for any offenses I've committed...

I'll match (on a $1 for $2 basis), up to the amount of the goal, any
donations made to the foundation through this web site by anyone from this
time until the cut-off for team donations, which is 1 May! So, if you
donate $20, that'll cost me another $10! If the group donates $3500 and
hits the goal, it'll cost me $1750.

Go for it!

Oh hell with it! I'll match (dollar for dollar) up to the goal! Now you
could put me out $3676! (But don't spread it around!) All the other
provisions apply!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


OK, that convinced me to donate under your sponsorship John. ;-)

Way to go!




============================================

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message news:...

"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...

JohnH wrote:
There's not a soul here that can't afford a $10 donation to a good cause!

Now take a break from arguing and do something nice for the females in
this
world.

http://www.active.com/donate/varace4cure/JohnHerring
--
'Til next time,

John H



Our daughter is running in the Race for the Cure on May 20th in Columbus,
Ohio and has done so for the past 7 years. We have also been making
donations to the Susan Komen fund for the past 20 or so years. I assume all
donations for breast cancer research are funneled to that fund

I am sorry to hear about your daughter John and hope that she conquers this
disease. But please do not assume that folks are not supporting the funding
of the research because they have not responding to your request.

My prayers are with your daughter.




So how is that imaginary boat of yours doing Reggie? Care to share
some pics? ;-)


Hehe!! I KNEW that was coming, as soon as you realize what a fool
you've made of yourself, you go to that sentence.


Reginald P. Smithers May 16th 06 03:20 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Harry,
I really do have an ulterior motive for sustaining this. JohnH did a
great job supporting a cause he believed in. Someone continues to make
false allegations about his efforts, and I don't believe those
allegations should go unaswered.

If you review these posts, it is JimH who is sustaining this.


basskisser May 16th 06 03:22 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Reginald P. Smithers wrote:
What I think is so funny is JimH was all upset when JohnH made a few
comments about Race for Renee, but look at the number of comments JimH
has made concerning the "Scandal behind the Race for Renee".

I think he might want to forward this to the NYT or the Washington Post
for a more detailed follow up concerning Reneegate.



Do you have some ulterior motive for sustaining this?




He wants to be a constant pimple on my ass and is doing a good job of it.

I cannot recall him ever posting something boating related that was
accurate, nor have I ever read posts from him talking about his boat.

He is a non boater who comes here to cause problems. That has been true
from day 1.


What evidence do you have that he is a non-boater.


Reginald P. Smithers May 16th 06 03:24 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
JimH,
If you look at this thread, the only comments I have made is to
discredit your allegations you have directed towards JohnH. It would
appear you need to look in the mirror before you discuss anyone who is
here to cause problems.


basskisser May 16th 06 03:24 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

RCE wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


I TOLD you he wouldn't get it!!!!!! This is too funny. I really don't
think he's that dim, but he's caught up in a big pile of mistakes and
is trying his best to worm his way out of it, but then again.....maybe
the candle is out...



Yup. Gotta let this one die, but it was starting to get comical.

RCE


Oh, yes, it is funny as hell! Look below, his usual M.O. where he goes
back to the *let's see a picture of your boat* after he's screwed up
rec.boats with his drivel!


basskisser May 16th 06 03:27 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
ups.com...

SamJenson wrote:
"basskisser" wrote in message
oups.com...


Really? I know damned well how my brakes on my vehicles are configured.

Me too, backwards.


Uh, no.....


Some proof for you. (from a Jeep site)

"Remember that the primary shoe ( the one with less friction material ) is
mounted toward the front of the car"

http://www.go.jeep-xj.info/HowtoRearDrums1.htm


Oh, I see what you're thinking You somehow have the notion that the
primary is always in front??? I get it now The primary isn't always in
front. It can be in back, it's just where the primary actuating springs
are.


JimH May 16th 06 04:19 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 
Yes Kevin, how dare I try to change the topic in a boating NG to a
boating related one and ask to see a picture of his boat. The shame!


basskisser May 16th 06 04:37 PM

Jim Hertvic - a liar...
 

JimH wrote:
Yes Kevin, how dare I try to change the topic in a boating NG to a
boating related one and ask to see a picture of his boat. The shame!


Hey, Jim, if you are so intent on turning every off topic to on topic
by your pet sentence, why do you post off topic at all? And I see you
are still a childish ass and insist on calling me someone I'm not. Do
you realize that the tone and of this group has changed dramatically,
and that you are single handedly the one who continues to flame,
insult, provoke and constantly try to stir ****? Everyone here knows
it, so your statement that you're trying to get the group back on topic
is absurd. Grow up.



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