On Tue, 02 May 2006 03:08:27 GMT, bb wrote:

On Mon, 1 May 2006 19:13:35 -0400, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:

So you gave Clinton credit when the economy was good

Where did Chuck give Clinton credit? Anything to back up the claim?

during a short time
when he was in office

As presidents go, eight years is not a short time.

.............. and now the story is different? ;-)

Actually, the story is different now. The rich are getting richer,
the poor are getting poorer. There were tax breaks specifically
targeting the rich and they have had the desired effect. Our currency
is quickly being devalued and that does adversely effect the lower
class to a greater degree.

bb


Could the poor be getting poorer because they don't want to work? Hell,
we've got 10-15 million (depending on who is talking) illegal aliens who
came here and found jobs. If they *are* the poor you refer to, then it's
their own damn fault, and their poverty is certainly skewing the statistic.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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JohnH wrote:


Could the poor be getting poorer because they don't want to work? Hell,
we've got 10-15 million (depending on who is talking) illegal aliens who
came here and found jobs. If they *are* the poor you refer to, then it's
their own damn fault, and their poverty is certainly skewing the statistic.
--
'Til next time,

John H
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Did you know that most poor people do work? In some cases, much longer
and harder everyday than people who are well off. There is no direct
correlation between the amount of work one is willing to do and the
amount of money they can expect to make. Motel maids,
landscape laborers, food service workers, agricultural laborers, and
(increasingly) construction laborers are very hard working people who
cannot earn a living wage in a typical 8-9 hour shift.

Yes, they are competing with a lot of illegal immigrants. It's sad to
see how the politicos of both parties want to deal with that problem:
Catch the illegals after they've done some work and then deport them
back to Mexico. Where is the will to deport the darned employers who
pay less than minimum wage, and who pay under the table to avoid
contributing to the tax base that supports the social services people
not earning enough to buy food and shelter are going to need? The
employers who are given phony documents and don't find out from Social
Security for 5-6 months that Jose Rodriguez is not legally entitled to
work in this country may have some defense, but the guy who hands out 3
ten-dollar bills to a day laborer at the end of a shift and keeps no
other records has no excuse whatsoever.

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JohnH wrote:


Could the poor be getting poorer because they don't want to work? Hell,
we've got 10-15 million (depending on who is talking) illegal aliens who
came here and found jobs. If they *are* the poor you refer to, then it's
their own damn fault, and their poverty is certainly skewing the
statistic.
--
'Til next time,

John H
******************************************

Did you know that most poor people do work? In some cases, much longer
and harder everyday than people who are well off.

Most? Proof?

There is no direct
correlation between the amount of work one is willing to do and the
amount of money they can expect to make. Motel maids,
landscape laborers, food service workers, agricultural laborers, and
(increasingly) construction laborers are very hard working people who
cannot earn a living wage in a typical 8-9 hour shift.

Then they need to find another field of work, learn a trade or go to
college. Their destiny is in their hands.

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:


Could the poor be getting poorer because they don't want to work? Hell,
we've got 10-15 million (depending on who is talking) illegal aliens who
came here and found jobs. If they *are* the poor you refer to, then it's
their own damn fault, and their poverty is certainly skewing the
statistic.
--
'Til next time,

John H
******************************************

Did you know that most poor people do work? In some cases, much longer
and harder everyday than people who are well off.

Most? Proof?

Ask some of them.


There is no direct
correlation between the amount of work one is willing to do and the
amount of money they can expect to make. Motel maids,
landscape laborers, food service workers, agricultural laborers, and
(increasingly) construction laborers are very hard working people who
cannot earn a living wage in a typical 8-9 hour shift.

Then they need to find another field of work, learn a trade or go to
college. Their destiny is in their hands.



Tough to do when you already work 12-16-18 hours a day.

If there is a will there is a way. It depends on how motivated the
person is to succeed in life.

Excuses are easy.

"JimH" wrote in message
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If there is a will there is a way. It depends on how motivated the
person is to succeed in life.

Excuses are easy.


Person A works a 40 hour week and makes 50k a year.
Person B works a 90 hour week and makes 25k a year.

Would you theorize that it's easier, or harder for person B to go to
college?

First show me folks who work 90 hours/week for only an annual income of
$25,000.

Even Micky D's pays more than the minimum wage. My son will be making
$10.50/hour plus painting houses this summer, plus another $1.50 for
every hour he worked if he does not miss work (except for vacations).

Doug,

I have always thought of myself as a fiscal conservative, and a social
liberal. Since the Republicans have given up on the concept of being
fiscally conservative, I may have to look more closely at the Democratic
candidates this year.

Damn the Republicans have gone to hell in a handbasket. They must think
they are LBJ the way they are spending money they don't have.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
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If there is a will there is a way. It depends on how motivated the
person is to succeed in life.

Excuses are easy.


Person A works a 40 hour week and makes 50k a year.
Person B works a 90 hour week and makes 25k a year.

Would you theorize that it's easier, or harder for person B to go to
college?

On Tue, 02 May 2006 19:17:35 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"JimH" wrote in message
roups.com...
If there is a will there is a way. It depends on how motivated the
person is to succeed in life.

Excuses are easy.


Person A works a 40 hour week and makes 50k a year.
Person B works a 90 hour week and makes 25k a year.

Would you theorize that it's easier, or harder for person B to go to
college?


If person B is an illegal immigrant, then he shouldn't be whining. If he is
a legal immigrant, then he should be whining about all the cheap labor
coming over the border, not marching in the streets under a Mexican flag.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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JimH wrote:
If there is a will there is a way. It depends on how motivated the
person is to succeed in life.

Excuses are easy.

If that were REALLY the case, then why aren't you as rich as Bill
Gates? And don't even try to give me the horse**** excuse that you've
got all the money you need and want.