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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
"DSK" wrote in message news "Fred Dehl" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: Which sentence was I unable to write, Mr Delusional? Don't Fred's posts make you laugh? He's really funny. I suspect he has a very unhappy life, but that's his tough luck. He's still funny. DSK If he's like this when he's talking to someone face to face, it's amazing he's lived this long. Most people I know would've put him in a wheelchair for life by this point. |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
That's discouraging news. Even though the price of fuel is a relatively
minor consideration for many boaters- (as in if you're making $24,000 a year in boat payments does it really matter if your summer fuel bill goes from $2500 up to $3500?)- these unusually high fuel prices tend to make people think twice or thrice about using their boats. I hope that it makes more of the less curteous go-fast & show-off boaters use their boats less. NOYB wrote: I put on 200 hours/year. If half of that is cruising, then my burn rate is 23 gph. The other half is trolling/slow speed, burning 6 gph. That's 2900 gallons/year. 2900 gallons*$3/gallon=$8700/year 2900 gallons*$5/gallon=$14,500/year That's a wee-bit more than your example, eh Chuck? Anybody want to buy a Grady White 30' Marlin? :-( You might consider repowering for better efficiency, but then you'd have to use the boat more to justify the expense of repower. Speed costs. A lot! For slow boats, fuel cost is negligible, but you don't cover as much ground. Our cost to cruise might go up from $0.50/mile to $.065/mile (in the absence of affecting wind & current of course). Since we're planning a Great Loop which is approx 6,000 miles, that will still be a big expense item. Still way less than fishing offshore from a fast 30 foot sportfisher though. Fair Skies Doug King |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 06:37:22 -0400, Harry Krause wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 12 Apr 2006 21:59:25 -0700, " wrote: Driving home this evening, I listened to a local talk radio station discussing the probable fuel prices during the next few months. They kept referring to an article in USA Today that projected $4/gallon gas prices (would probably run $5 at a fuel dock). Anybody actually see this story and know the details? I can't find it online- does anybody have a website address to check? Self-fulfilling prophecy. This is a market driven by speculation and insider information. I saw the article yesterday and just put it away. Watching CNBC yesterday, you had prices going from $2.62 to $6 a gallon. My guess is it will hit a high around $2,90 and settle back once the refineries come back on-line. Hugo Chavez says $50 a barrel for oil is sufficient. Unfortunately, Hugo Chaves doesn't control the price of oil. I know he likes to think he does, but he doesn't. At what price does harvesting oil shale and oil sand become economical. That is the price OPEC will not want oil to reach. You have a good point. I recently saw a documentary on shale oil and if I recall correctly, the price is right around 50 dollars per barrel to justify the cost. Developers must be waiting for a long term stabilization of oil prices before having at it. RCE |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
"DSK" wrote in message ... That's discouraging news. Even though the price of fuel is a relatively minor consideration for many boaters- (as in if you're making $24,000 a year in boat payments does it really matter if your summer fuel bill goes from $2500 up to $3500?)- these unusually high fuel prices tend to make people think twice or thrice about using their boats. I hope that it makes more of the less curteous go-fast & show-off boaters use their boats less. NOYB wrote: I put on 200 hours/year. If half of that is cruising, then my burn rate is 23 gph. The other half is trolling/slow speed, burning 6 gph. That's 2900 gallons/year. 2900 gallons*$3/gallon=$8700/year 2900 gallons*$5/gallon=$14,500/year That's a wee-bit more than your example, eh Chuck? Anybody want to buy a Grady White 30' Marlin? :-( You might consider repowering for better efficiency, but then you'd have to use the boat more to justify the expense of repower. Speed costs. A lot! A repower to four-strokes would drop the fuel burn to about 18.5 gph at cruise, and 3 gph out troll/idle. That means 2150 gallons/year...or 750 gallons/year savings. At $3/gallon, it's a $2250 savings At $5/gallon, it's a $3750 savings. (I'd save a little in oil burn too) But it would take anywhere from 8.5 to 14 years before I saved enough to pay for the $32,000 worth of new engines that I'd need to buy. For slow boats, fuel cost is negligible, but you don't cover as much ground. Our cost to cruise might go up from $0.50/mile to $.065/mile (in the absence of affecting wind & current of course). Since we're planning a Great Loop which is approx 6,000 miles, that will still be a big expense item. Still way less than fishing offshore from a fast 30 foot sportfisher though. My cost/mile runs about $2.75/mile. But I have more money than time at this point in my life. When I retire, the opposite will be true...and I'll get a diesel-powered displacement or semi-displacement hull. |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
"DSK" wrote in message news "Fred Dehl" wrote in message ... Doug Kanter wrote: Which sentence was I unable to write, Mr Delusional? Don't Fred's posts make you laugh? He's really funny. I suspect he has a very unhappy life, but that's his tough luck. He's still funny. DSK He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's alarming. RCE |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
"Fred Dehl" wrote in message ... Fred, I have no idea how old you are but you present as a 17 year old about to drop out of high school. Am I close? If so, it makes me feel a bit better because there's hope for you to mature. If I am wrong, then there's no hope at all and you will be the first that I will use the killfile for. RCE |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
Harry Krause wrote:
Fred Dehl wrote: "Doug Kanter" wrote in : But it's the Democrats and their envirolunatics who are responsible for the increased prices during summer. Rest assured that if the oil companies were bothered by the seasonal reformulation arrangements, they would've purchased the appropriate federal officials and arranged for the rules to be changed. More flatulence from the ****scab who can't write one sentence. So, you're back from seeing mom in Thailand, eh? Ah ha! Earlier this week after noticing the excess use of commas and the potty mouth plus the term 'ya', I was wondering if this was our former nemesis, Tuuk... aka 'Bangkok Bob'. He's a one & only...... mold trashed, burned and buried after product flaws realized. |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
NOYB wrote:
He'll be a cold dude soon. Ice cold. You and your leaders are worse than the Sopranos. *** go to left column.. more than half way down & hit on 'MacKinnon's cartoons' http://www.herald.ns.ca/ |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
RCE wrote:
He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's alarming. If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along the lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think he's funny. But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at the yarn. FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race. If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then we might as well have stayed in caves. Regards Doug King |
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Anybody see the USA Today fuel price predictions?
DSK wrote:
RCE wrote: He's not funny. As a supposed representative of the human race, he's alarming. If Fred agreed with any of my expressed opinions, and still acted the way he does, I'd find him alarming too. But if he did think more along the lines I do, he couldn't possibly act the way he does. So I think he's funny. But then I always have had a cruel sense of humor. Fred is like a spastic kitten trying to unravel the strands of reason from the ball of yarn of life, I laugh when he keeps konking his head and getting mad at the yarn. FWIW I agree he's a sorry excuse for a representative of the human race. If 3,000 years of civilization have brought us to guys like Fred D, then we might as well have stayed in caves. Regards Doug King If you guys keep this up, & Fred is who we think he might be.... expect another round of threats to visit your houses, kick you in the nuts...etc etc. I'm gonna rush down to my closest sporting goods store and buy a jock strap/cup combo. |
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