"DSK" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote
To the narrow minded it is simple. Man is at fault.


Doug Kanter wrote:
Actually, I haven't heard many scientists saying that at all. But, that
certainly is the kneejerk understanding being promoted by certain
parties.

All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who claim it's
what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying. No scientists, no Greens,
no environmentalists, and no Democrats are saying it at all.

But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get their info from.

DSK


That leads to another thing: I wonder what it's like to have no thoughts
whatsoever, unless some self-proclaimed leader provides you with some.

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Calif Bill wrote:
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html


Feel free to join the previous cluster **** on this same subject,
begun
by your clone, Bert. :-)


Maybe your son will learn something when he travels Europe.



What's in Europe that his son might learn (seriously, not trying to get
between you and Doug)?


His son is going to Europe on a school trip. And travel is supposed to
broaden your horizons. His mind is made up that the global warming is
man
caused. Will not consider that the earth is always heating and cooling
and
it may be mother nature and not just man. Why is Mars also warming at
the
same time? Mars Rovers?

You do realize, don't you, Bill, that the warming is happening at a
pace that hasn't happened before? And you also realize, that just
because there is a cyclic warming and cooling that is astronomy based,
doesn't mean that man hasn't had a profound influence on that warming,
don't you?

Kevin, I didn't know you are the eternal earthling. Would you be so kind as
to provide us with the data you have managed to collect over these millions
of millenia?

Where did the dinosaurs go? Was it man that hastened their demise by
following them on this Earth by 150,000,000?

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html


Now see what you started Bill? ;-) Everyone has an
opinion...................no one is going to change the opinion of
others.........as with politics and religion..........the beat goes
on................................

Of more importance to me at this moment..........I will be washing the
windows on the house tomorrow, replacing some exterior lighting wiring and
fixtures, getting the summer stuff out of the shed, getting the lawn
equipment started and putting the snow blower to bed.

Friday I haul my boat to the marina and start working on her.

It was a long winter (a tie in to the original topic).

Carry on folks.

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html


Now see what you started Bill? ;-) Everyone has an
opinion...................no one is going to change the opinion of
others.........as with politics and religion..........the beat goes
on................................

Of more importance to me at this moment..........I will be washing the
windows on the house tomorrow, replacing some exterior lighting wiring and
fixtures, getting the summer stuff out of the shed, getting the lawn
equipment started and putting the snow blower to bed.

Friday I haul my boat to the marina and start working on her.

It was a long winter (a tie in to the original topic).

Carry on folks.





We have so much rain, can not go boating in the rivers. Closed to boat
traffic. Can not finish the house painting. Raining. 28 of the last 29
days. Ma Nature must think we are Oregon. They require 10 dry days before
finishing the replaster of the pool. Maybe June?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG6EI83BM5.DTL

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/m...9/ixworld.html


Now see what you started Bill? ;-) Everyone has an
opinion...................no one is going to change the opinion of
others.........as with politics and religion..........the beat goes
on................................

Of more importance to me at this moment..........I will be washing the
windows on the house tomorrow, replacing some exterior lighting wiring
and fixtures, getting the summer stuff out of the shed, getting the lawn
equipment started and putting the snow blower to bed.

Friday I haul my boat to the marina and start working on her.

It was a long winter (a tie in to the original topic).

Carry on folks.





We have so much rain, can not go boating in the rivers. Closed to boat
traffic. Can not finish the house painting. Raining. 28 of the last 29
days. Ma Nature must think we are Oregon. They require 10 dry days
before finishing the replaster of the pool. Maybe June?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...NG6EI83BM5.DTL


Sorry to read that Bill.

I spent a lot of time in the SF/Oakland area and was able to see many of the
waterfront attractions in SF and Sausalito areas. How lucky you are to live
in such a nice area of the country, although you certainly pay the price
with housing and the general cost of living there.

All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who
claim it's what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying.
No scientists, no Greens, no environmentalists, and no
Democrats are saying it at all.

But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get
their info from.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
You mean like MIT?


When did the Wall Street Journal's op-ed become a division a
MIT?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220

Oh - wait, this is terribly inconvenient for your side.

"My side" is the side that wants to put "conserve" back in
conservatism. I guess you're claiming to be on the 'let's
make a quick buck screwing the environment while it lasts' side?


Feel free to ignore it. :)

Ignore a guy who claims the Bush Administration is handing
out science grants based on favoritism to liberals? Ignore a
guy who claims he was intimidated by Al Gore? Not likely.

I'd like to see what his environmental science observations
are. But as for his political speechifyin', as far as I care
you can trumpet it from the housetops. It's the same
paranoid nonsense that from day one has been embarassing
what few neo-cons aren't totally whacko.

DSK

DSK wrote:
All the people I've heard saying this are right-wingers who
claim it's what the enviro-whackos & "the left" are saying.
No scientists, no Greens, no environmentalists, and no
Democrats are saying it at all.

But that's OK, it makes it easy to tell where people get
their info from.


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
You mean like MIT?


When did the Wall Street Journal's op-ed become a division a
MIT?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220

Oh - wait, this is terribly inconvenient for your side.

"My side" is the side that wants to put "conserve" back in
conservatism. I guess you're claiming to be on the 'let's
make a quick buck screwing the environment while it lasts' side?


Feel free to ignore it. :)

Ignore a guy who claims the Bush Administration is handing
out science grants based on favoritism to liberals? Ignore a
guy who claims he was intimidated by Al Gore? Not likely.

I'd like to see what his environmental science observations
are. But as for his political speechifyin', as far as I care
you can trumpet it from the housetops. It's the same
paranoid nonsense that from day one has been embarassing
what few neo-cons aren't totally whacko.

DSK



How is boating on your end DSK?

Tell us about your boat. Do you own one?

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008220



I'd like to see what his environmental science observations
are. But as for his political speechifyin', as far as I care
you can trumpet it from the housetops. It's the same
paranoid nonsense that from day one has been embarassing
what few neo-cons aren't totally whacko.




JimH wrote:
How is boating on your end DSK?

Tell us about your boat. Do you own one?


just fine thanks. You?
http://community.webshots.com/album/63279185YQtgSA

Did you and Tom jump in here to holler "Me Too!" for the
likes of Bert Robbins? Who never once has ever posted
anything about a boat, and now you're challenging me?

Get a grip dudes. That alone should tell you something.

Regards
Doug King

So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-)

BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here. Instead try to
address my questions/comments directly in the future.

Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting
your OT crap here or at any other NG or forum. Instead, relax and post
boating related questions here.

Take a deep
breath...........exhale...................inhale.. .................exhale.............inhale.......

Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm.............;-)

JimH wrote:
So go out and enjoy your boat Doug. ;-)


We definitely will, starting tomorrow afternoon.

BTW: Do not group me with Bert or anyone else here.

Why not? You have certainly sided with him rather
definitely, and this isn't the first time either.


Some words of advice: You are not going to change the world by posting
your OT crap here

Why do you rebuke me and not the 4 or 5 Bush-Cheney
Cheerleaders who have posted more "OT crap" than I have? I
did not start this thread.

DSK