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JimH April 3rd 06 04:51 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

wrote in message
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Brian Cleveland wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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I am putting in a 2nd battery on my boat and will need an A/B switch.

Is the field disconnect one (such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/pa9hn )
always the way to go, or is the one that is $10 cheaper but lack field
disconnect a better option? I do not switch to the other battery while
under power.....never have and do not plan to now. The switch will not
be
out in the open for anyone to fool with.

So save the $10 bucks or get the higher priced one?


The Field Disconnect does require 2 extra wires but would probably be
worth
it to keep from frying the alternator by accidently switching to off with
engine running. Scroll down to page 11 in following link

http://tinyurl.com/8ffe7

brian c
m/v canwegonow



See there? Something new under the sun all the time. This "Field
Disconnect" feature is a recent introduction, AFAIK. Ed was right about
the couple of extra wires, and you're right about the 15 minutes and
$15 in wire being worth doing.

The heart of a pwerboat is the engine, and the batteries are the
"pacemaker"for that heart.
If a guy wants to go second class on something, (IMO), the place to go
cheap is the galley stove, the number of superflous bells and whistles
in the electro-nav system, or some other area that isn't going to stop
the boat from running.


The switches I was originally choosing between were both manufactured by the
same company and were identical in every way except for the field disconnect
feature on the more expensive one. I was not about to go "cheap" or "2nd
class" Chuck. ;-)



[email protected] April 3rd 06 05:02 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

JimH wrote:



Have you ever dealt with ProMariner battery switches?

http://tinyurl.com/krkkl

I can save the $10 and still get field disconnect.


I lean toward Perko from years of successful operation, or toward Blue
Sea from what I know about their products in general. ProMariner may be
fine as well, but I would have to admit that I have a personal
prejudice toward that trademark as I once owned a ProMariner battery
charger that cooked the living stink out of some batteries.

If I were going to buy a new swtich today, my choice might be:

http://www.bluesea.com/product.asp?P...58&l1=7458&l2=

Blue Sea also has a new design, the E-Series, and that switch won some
sort of award for innovation in 2005. Might also be worth a look.

They also offer a "field disconnect" model, (or you can install a "Zap
Stop", and that doesn't require any wiring except on the back of the
alternator itself).


[email protected] April 3rd 06 05:16 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Brian Cleveland wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
I am putting in a 2nd battery on my boat and will need an A/B switch.

Is the field disconnect one (such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/pa9hn )
always the way to go, or is the one that is $10 cheaper but lack field
disconnect a better option? I do not switch to the other battery while
under power.....never have and do not plan to now. The switch will not
be
out in the open for anyone to fool with.

So save the $10 bucks or get the higher priced one?


The Field Disconnect does require 2 extra wires but would probably be
worth
it to keep from frying the alternator by accidently switching to off with
engine running. Scroll down to page 11 in following link

http://tinyurl.com/8ffe7

brian c
m/v canwegonow



See there? Something new under the sun all the time. This "Field
Disconnect" feature is a recent introduction, AFAIK. Ed was right about
the couple of extra wires, and you're right about the 15 minutes and
$15 in wire being worth doing.

The heart of a pwerboat is the engine, and the batteries are the
"pacemaker"for that heart.
If a guy wants to go second class on something, (IMO), the place to go
cheap is the galley stove, the number of superflous bells and whistles
in the electro-nav system, or some other area that isn't going to stop
the boat from running.


The switches I was originally choosing between were both manufactured by the
same company and were identical in every way except for the field disconnect
feature on the more expensive one. I was not about to go "cheap" or "2nd
class" Chuck. ;-)


Belt *and* suspenders is very good policy aboard a boat.

One of the abstract things that I believe boaters find appealing is the
very self-contained and self-reliant environment we assume the
responsibility to create and/or manage as we make choices about
equipment and policies aboard our boats and as we make decisions
underway. We are more disconnected from the "system" aboard a boat than
almost anywhere else in our lives, unless we backpack up into the
mountains someplace (and I have this negative attitude about walking
mile after mile up very steep trails with a 70-pound pack on my back).
We risk our financial fortunes, our vacation or weekend happiness, and
once in a while maybe even our lives with the choices we make about and
aboard our boats.

My policy is to go for the best available stuff whenever safety or
mechanical reliability is an issue, but I often choose less than
top-of-the-line for stereos or other toys that aren't critical
to reliability or safety.


JimH April 3rd 06 05:59 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
I am putting in a 2nd battery on my boat and will need an A/B switch.

Is the field disconnect one (such as this one http://tinyurl.com/pa9hn )
always the way to go, or is the one that is $10 cheaper but lack field
disconnect a better option? I do not switch to the other battery while
under power.....never have and do not plan to now. The switch will not be
out in the open for anyone to fool with.

So save the $10 bucks or get the higher priced one?


Thanks for the good discussion folks. You convinced me to buy the one with
the field disconnect. ;-)



Reggie Smithers April 3rd 06 07:19 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 
wrote:
JimH wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...
Brian Cleveland wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
I am putting in a 2nd battery on my boat and will need an A/B switch.

Is the field disconnect one (such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/pa9hn )
always the way to go, or is the one that is $10 cheaper but lack field
disconnect a better option? I do not switch to the other battery while
under power.....never have and do not plan to now. The switch will not
be
out in the open for anyone to fool with.

So save the $10 bucks or get the higher priced one?


The Field Disconnect does require 2 extra wires but would probably be
worth
it to keep from frying the alternator by accidently switching to off with
engine running. Scroll down to page 11 in following link

http://tinyurl.com/8ffe7

brian c
m/v canwegonow

See there? Something new under the sun all the time. This "Field
Disconnect" feature is a recent introduction, AFAIK. Ed was right about
the couple of extra wires, and you're right about the 15 minutes and
$15 in wire being worth doing.

The heart of a pwerboat is the engine, and the batteries are the
"pacemaker"for that heart.
If a guy wants to go second class on something, (IMO), the place to go
cheap is the galley stove, the number of superflous bells and whistles
in the electro-nav system, or some other area that isn't going to stop
the boat from running.

The switches I was originally choosing between were both manufactured by the
same company and were identical in every way except for the field disconnect
feature on the more expensive one. I was not about to go "cheap" or "2nd
class" Chuck. ;-)


Belt *and* suspenders is very good policy aboard a boat.

One of the abstract things that I believe boaters find appealing is the
very self-contained and self-reliant environment we assume the
responsibility to create and/or manage as we make choices about
equipment and policies aboard our boats and as we make decisions
underway. We are more disconnected from the "system" aboard a boat than
almost anywhere else in our lives, unless we backpack up into the
mountains someplace (and I have this negative attitude about walking
mile after mile up very steep trails with a 70-pound pack on my back).
We risk our financial fortunes, our vacation or weekend happiness, and
once in a while maybe even our lives with the choices we make about and
aboard our boats.

My policy is to go for the best available stuff whenever safety or
mechanical reliability is an issue, but I often choose less than
top-of-the-line for stereos or other toys that aren't critical
to reliability or safety.

Chuck,
Have you figured out how to post pictures of your boat as it is being
rebuilt?

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

JIMinFL April 3rd 06 07:46 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
I am putting in a 2nd battery on my boat and will need an A/B switch.

Is the field disconnect one (such as this one http://tinyurl.com/pa9hn )
always the way to go, or is the one that is $10 cheaper but lack field
disconnect a better option? I do not switch to the other battery while
under power.....never have and do not plan to now. The switch will not
be out in the open for anyone to fool with.

So save the $10 bucks or get the higher priced one?


Thanks for the good discussion folks. You convinced me to buy the one
with the field disconnect. ;-)

Make sure your alternator has an external regulator. Otherwise you will be
wasting your money.
Jim



JimH April 3rd 06 07:55 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

"JIMinFL" wrote in message
ink.net...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
. ..
I am putting in a 2nd battery on my boat and will need an A/B switch.

Is the field disconnect one (such as this one http://tinyurl.com/pa9hn )
always the way to go, or is the one that is $10 cheaper but lack field
disconnect a better option? I do not switch to the other battery while
under power.....never have and do not plan to now. The switch will not
be out in the open for anyone to fool with.

So save the $10 bucks or get the higher priced one?


Thanks for the good discussion folks. You convinced me to buy the one
with the field disconnect. ;-)

Make sure your alternator has an external regulator. Otherwise you will be
wasting your money.
Jim


It is already ordered. I guess I can always trade it in for the one without
field disconnect if I do not have an external regulator on my alternator.

Thanks for the heads up. I should have waited for more feedback before
making the purchase.

Note to Reggie: Do you see now why I asked for a discussion of this? A
couple of folks, including me, have learned some new things about these
switches that were not known before. ;-)



Reggie Smithers April 3rd 06 08:16 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 


Note to Reggie: Do you see now why I asked for a discussion of this? A
couple of folks, including me, have learned some new things about these
switches that were not known before. ;-)


JimH,
I said the exact same thing after Chuck's post and was the reason I
thought you asked the question. Now if this was my Perko switch and my
boat, I would never use JiminFla post or even Chuck's post as the
gospel. I have seen too many incorrect advice given in rec.boats to
follow any of the recommendations. At this point, I would contact Perko
directly and get their recommendations and ask them if JiminTampa
observations is correct.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."

JimH April 3rd 06 08:19 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...


Note to Reggie: Do you see now why I asked for a discussion of this? A
couple of folks, including me, have learned some new things about these
switches that were not known before. ;-)


JimH,
I said the exact same thing after Chuck's post and was the reason I
thought you asked the question. Now if this was my Perko switch and my
boat, I would never use JiminFla post or even Chuck's post as the gospel.
I have seen too many incorrect advice given in rec.boats to follow any of
the recommendations. At this point, I would contact Perko directly and
get their recommendations and ask them if JiminTampa observations is
correct.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."


Whatever.



Reggie Smithers April 3rd 06 08:36 PM

A/B Battery Switch
 
JimH wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
Note to Reggie: Do you see now why I asked for a discussion of this? A
couple of folks, including me, have learned some new things about these
switches that were not known before. ;-)

JimH,
I said the exact same thing after Chuck's post and was the reason I
thought you asked the question. Now if this was my Perko switch and my
boat, I would never use JiminFla post or even Chuck's post as the gospel.
I have seen too many incorrect advice given in rec.boats to follow any of
the recommendations. At this point, I would contact Perko directly and
get their recommendations and ask them if JiminTampa observations is
correct.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."


Whatever.


You did ask for our opinions didn't you? I gave you my opinion. The
reason I did is how do you know who gave you the correct advice, was it
Chuck, who didn't say the separate regulator was necessary or was it
JiminFl who gave you the correct advice when he said the more expensive
one was useless if you didn't have a separate regulator.

If we wait a few more days, I am sure we will have many more experts
give conflicting recommendations. How do you decide what advice to
follow?

So, for this reason, I gave you my advice of contacting Perko.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."


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