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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? |
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![]() "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. I'm sorry. I thought your statement was meant to stand on it's own. What am I missing? You can't depend on a boat without power to be able to be steered to a soft landing on a sandy beach. On the other hand a powerless plane can still be controlled in many cases. Jim |
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![]() "JIMinFL" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. I'm sorry. I thought your statement was meant to stand on it's own. What am I missing? You can't depend on a boat without power to be able to be steered to a soft landing on a sandy beach. On the other hand a powerless plane can still be controlled in many cases. Jim We're talking about probability here, Jim. I see crippled boats towed into the bay here all the time. I do not see ambulances waiting for the occupants. You are right - if you're in hideous seas and you lose power, you may be in deep ****. And, it *is* possible to land a crippled plane safely, but the word "possible" is far from the word "likely". |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. I'm sorry. I thought your statement was meant to stand on it's own. What am I missing? You can't depend on a boat without power to be able to be steered to a soft landing on a sandy beach. On the other hand a powerless plane can still be controlled in many cases. Jim We're talking about probability here, Jim. I see crippled boats towed into the bay here all the time. I do not see ambulances waiting for the occupants. You are right - if you're in hideous seas and you lose power, you may be in deep ****. And, it *is* possible to land a crippled plane safely, but the word "possible" is far from the word "likely". Now you are being more reasonable. Jim |
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![]() "JIMinFL" wrote in message link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. I'm sorry. I thought your statement was meant to stand on it's own. What am I missing? You can't depend on a boat without power to be able to be steered to a soft landing on a sandy beach. On the other hand a powerless plane can still be controlled in many cases. Jim We're talking about probability here, Jim. I see crippled boats towed into the bay here all the time. I do not see ambulances waiting for the occupants. You are right - if you're in hideous seas and you lose power, you may be in deep ****. And, it *is* possible to land a crippled plane safely, but the word "possible" is far from the word "likely". Now you are being more reasonable. Jim I was reasonable right from the get-go. You were claiming that surviving a plane crash was a common occurrence. It is not. |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. I'm sorry. I thought your statement was meant to stand on it's own. What am I missing? You can't depend on a boat without power to be able to be steered to a soft landing on a sandy beach. On the other hand a powerless plane can still be controlled in many cases. Jim We're talking about probability here, Jim. I see crippled boats towed into the bay here all the time. I do not see ambulances waiting for the occupants. You are right - if you're in hideous seas and you lose power, you may be in deep ****. And, it *is* possible to land a crippled plane safely, but the word "possible" is far from the word "likely". Now you are being more reasonable. Jim I was reasonable right from the get-go. You were claiming that surviving a plane crash was a common occurrence. It is not. It probably is a common occurrence, but I never made that claim. And I did not say anything about the survival rate of crashes. You said that if a single engine plane loses power, the occupants die. That is an unreasonable assumption. Jim |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... I was reasonable right from the get-go. You were claiming that surviving a plane crash was a common occurrence. It is not. Who said crash? I thought we were comparing the risks of loosing an engine on a single engine boat and a single engine airplane. Granted, on a nice day with calm to moderate seas, you aren't in immediate danger in a boat. Rough it up a bit and the story changes. This is getting too convoluted to continue anyway. RCE |
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![]() "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "JIMinFL" wrote in message k.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:Iu9Wf.5335 Uh oh. If my yacht's single motor dies, I don't fall out of the sky and die. If I'm trying to deal with insanely nasty weather, maneuvering around big waves, it **may** be a problem. But, if a plane's single engine dies, so do the occupants, unless they're still on the ground. Your logic is flawed? How is it flawed? Be sure to go back a few messages so you're clear on what RCE responded to. I'm sorry. I thought your statement was meant to stand on it's own. What am I missing? You can't depend on a boat without power to be able to be steered to a soft landing on a sandy beach. On the other hand a powerless plane can still be controlled in many cases. Jim We're talking about probability here, Jim. I see crippled boats towed into the bay here all the time. I do not see ambulances waiting for the occupants. You are right - if you're in hideous seas and you lose power, you may be in deep ****. And, it *is* possible to land a crippled plane safely, but the word "possible" is far from the word "likely". Small private plane? Engine failure? More than possible, more like very likely. Now, if a wing falls off, you're screwed. RCE |
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