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"RG" wrote in message
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It is an aluminum prop. I will just get a new one.


Consider replacing it with a stainless steel prop. A stainless steel prop
would have likely survived your impact with little or no damage. If you
often boat in shallow water, it's the only way to go. It will save you
much grief and prop repair expenses. Get the aluminum prop professionally
repaired and it will serve you well as a lightweight, easy-to-stow, spare.

Based on your account, I feel you have nothing to worry about as to the
impeller issue. The gearcase seal issue is a bit more complicated.
Probably best to ask your dealer how best to handle that, assuming you
have a good feeling about the dealer's service department.


Depending on what he hit, having a stainless steel prop could have resulted
in far more significant damage than a broken prop. ;-)


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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:50 +1000, "K. Smith" wrote:


Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change
the gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the
oil annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the
US they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine
pricing the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they can.

Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time.

Good luck.

K

Thanks for the advice. Sounds like you really have something against
these motors though. There seem to be many reports of people using
them for several years with no problems. Not trying to start an E-tec
vs. 'whatever' thread though.

*Now* you did it.

RCE


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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:10:00 GMT, Gene Kearns
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:11:39 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:05:48 GMT, Charlie Brown
wrote:

I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?


No.


Possibly. Does it pee?


It does pee
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Depending on what he hit, having a stainless steel prop could have
resulted in far more significant damage than a broken prop. ;-)


That argument has been around as long as stainless props themselves. I
consider it an old wives tale, with no empirical data to support it, and
usually professed by those unwilling to part with the coin to buy stainless
propellers for their rigs. I've run nothing but stainless on every outdrive
I've ever owned over the last 30 years, and have never had any type of
outdrive damage traceable to running a high quality stainless propeller. I
wouldn't waste my breath trying to change the minds of those who consider
stainless props evil, but for me, I'll never run anything but stainless, for
a number of important reasons.


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Possibly. Does it pee?


It does pee


Does it lift its leg? (power trim/tilt joke)




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That argument has been around as long as stainless props themselves. I
consider it an old wives tale, with no empirical data to support it,


What's that got to do with anything?


Not a GD thing, but when I'm on a rant, sometimes I screw up and let facts
get in the way of an otherwise passionate tirade.


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"RG" wrote in message
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Depending on what he hit, having a stainless steel prop could have
resulted in far more significant damage than a broken prop. ;-)


That argument has been around as long as stainless props themselves. I
consider it an old wives tale, with no empirical data to support it, and
usually professed by those unwilling to part with the coin to buy
stainless propellers for their rigs.



Bull. Google is your friend. Try it.

I've run nothing but stainless on every outdrive I've ever owned over the
last 30 years, and have never had any type of outdrive damage traceable to
running a high quality stainless propeller. I wouldn't waste my breath
trying to change the minds of those who consider stainless props evil, but
for me, I'll never run anything but stainless, for a number of important
reasons.


Good for you. But you boat in paradise, remember? ;-)


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"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:50 +1000, "K. Smith" wrote:


Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change
the gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the
oil annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the
US they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine
pricing the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they
can.

Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time.

Good luck.

K

Thanks for the advice. Sounds like you really have something against
these motors though. There seem to be many reports of people using
them for several years with no problems. Not trying to start an E-tec
vs. 'whatever' thread though.


*Now* you did it.

RCE

No. The devil made you do it. Pretty dull in Denver eh?


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Charlie Brown wrote:
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:33:29 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:05:48 GMT, Charlie Brown wrote:

I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?

Depends to a great deal on whether your judgement of the elapsed time is
completely accurate.

It is accurate. I turned the key, the sound of the motor out of the
water immediately caught my attention and I turned the key off. I
believe I still had my hand on the key.

I had just been idling away from a fishing spot and my fishfinder
shallow warning went off. No sooner did it beep and I could feel the
prop hitting something. I had tilted motor up to inspect and forgot
to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.

Since the engine is new I would return it to the dealer, ask him to
check out the seals and shaft (my guess is he will do this for free),
order a new prop and have the old prop professional refurbished and
balanced. You can then use the old prop as a back up. If I have any
dings in my prop, I always have it refurbished and balanced. An
unbalanced prop can cause more damage to the engine then the original
contact with the rock, bottom or whatever.

--
Reggie

"That's my story and I am sticking to it."
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Charlie Brown wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:50 +1000, "K. Smith" wrote:


Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change
the gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the
oil annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the
US they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine
pricing the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they can.

Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time.

Good luck.

K


Thanks for the advice. Sounds like you really have something against
these motors though. There seem to be many reports of people using
them for several years with no problems. Not trying to start an E-tec
vs. 'whatever' thread though.


Yes I do have things against these motors Charlie & the OMC dealers who
deceptively market them, having explained the reasons many times over
the years.

I agree "many" E-Tecs certainly the huge majority will probably survive
but remember even when they called them Ficht the majority survived. Of
course statistics from the manufacturer like 4 out of five didn't fail
doesn't mean much if you are number 5, as far as number 5 is concerned
the failure rate is 100%. We actually have people in this NG who claimed
to have bought more!!!!; what? just to get the failure percentages
down:-) But those claims are just that; NG claims from lonely boring non
boating nuffnuffs.

I genuinely hope yours is fine & being a smaller HP there's lots of
reason the say it will be. But please keep that warranty in shape even
if it means feeding a dealer:-)


K
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