I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:33:29 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:05:48 GMT, Charlie Brown wrote:

I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?

Depends to a great deal on whether your judgement of the elapsed time is
completely accurate.

It is accurate. I turned the key, the sound of the motor out of the
water immediately caught my attention and I turned the key off. I
believe I still had my hand on the key.

I had just been idling away from a fishing spot and my fishfinder
shallow warning went off. No sooner did it beep and I could feel the
prop hitting something. I had tilted motor up to inspect and forgot
to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.

"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...

I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?


Contrary to the opinions you are getting here, your new E-tec 90 is now
toast.
Running it without water, even for a couple of nano-seconds overheats the
flabble regulator and causes the eprom in the main stem to loose all bubble
memory. This is explicitly spelled out in the fine print of your manual and
any claims for warranty repair will be rejected. Just ask Karen.




I had just been idling away from a fishing spot and my fishfinder
shallow warning went off. No sooner did it beep and I could feel the
prop hitting something. I had tilted motor up to inspect and forgot
to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.

Good idea. It's going to cause vibration. Seems like we all get "spare"
props this way at one time or another. And obviously, just kidding about
your flabble regulator. Actually, they will survive several nano-seconds
without water without permanent damage.

RCE

to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.

If there arent any big chunks missing, I would take the prop to a
computerized prop shop for repair, especially if it's stainless steel. They
can true, balance, and polish them for about $75. I wouldn't run it on the
engine, even as a spare, until it's repaired. Off-balance props can cause
engine or drive problems.

"Stanley Barthfarkle" wrote in message
. com...

to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.

If there arent any big chunks missing, I would take the prop to a
computerized prop shop for repair, especially if it's stainless steel.
They can true, balance, and polish them for about $75. I wouldn't run it
on the engine, even as a spare, until it's repaired. Off-balance props can
cause engine or drive problems.


Great suggestion. I have taken several props to be rebuilt. They come back
like new.

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:51:30 GMT, "Stanley Barthfarkle"
wrote:


to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.

If there arent any big chunks missing, I would take the prop to a
computerized prop shop for repair, especially if it's stainless steel. They
can true, balance, and polish them for about $75. I wouldn't run it on the
engine, even as a spare, until it's repaired. Off-balance props can cause
engine or drive problems.

It is an aluminum prop. I will just get a new one.

I don't have a service manual yet and am afraid to drain the lower
gear oil, inspect it, and properly fill it. Not sure if I need to go
to the dealer to have them look at the motor in case there is damage?
The boat was moving slow and it felt like the prop caught the top of
something.

RCE wrote:
"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...

I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?



Contrary to the opinions you are getting here, your new E-tec 90 is now
toast.
Running it without water, even for a couple of nano-seconds overheats the
flabble regulator and causes the eprom in the main stem to loose all bubble
memory. This is explicitly spelled out in the fine print of your manual and
any claims for warranty repair will be rejected. Just ask Karen.


Thanks for that kind introduction Richard & welcome to a boating thread
how's it feel?? Do you need to post an OT movie??? how about a "how do I
work a power point" thread???

Charlie the impeller is probably fine but you do have an issue with the
impact, bent prop & definitely don't just drain & replace the gearcase
oil yourself!!! Seriously these E-Tec dealer grubs are out to blame you
for any & everything, so much so that the gearcase has a "special"
dealer only oil in it. "They say" it will last 3 yrs (warranty??) but
they also accept some water will get in there because they spruik the
oil can still lubricate even when there's water in the gearcase!! Has
this claim been consumer tested over time???, like all their other
latest ficht upgrade claims???

I hate myself (plenty of company around the NG:-)) for even suggesting
this, but you need to take it to an E-Tec dealer; book it in & tell them
in an email would be good (they're liars), that you've have had an
impact & can they check it "all" out. That way your warranty will be
documented & at least as safe as any of the E-Tec warranties:-) You are
at risk having bought this engine, power boat couldn't even nurse one to
the end of a test!!! So protect your warranty at all times & remember
Bomb have OMC warranty priors.

These E-Tec people really are loons!!! All the gearcases survive some
water getting in (they're just a poor design only one OB I know of has
pressure lube to the lower g/case but that's another story:-)) The
problem is not while they're being used it's when they're left for the
winter the water settles then rusts the bearings, next season the shaft
bounces around a little more so more water etc etc

The E-Tec claim of no "dealer" service for 3 yrs is a real worry in my
view & seems almost deliberately set up to give them an out.

Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change
the gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the
oil annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the
US they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine
pricing the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they can.

Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time.

Good luck.

K





I had just been idling away from a fishing spot and my fishfinder
shallow warning went off. No sooner did it beep and I could feel the
prop hitting something. I had tilted motor up to inspect and forgot
to put it back down. Bent up my prop pretty good, must have been a
rock or a stump. Only the 3rd time out with new motor. Bummer. I
took the prop off and straigtened it as best I could, guess I should
go buy a new one and keep this one as a spare for an emergency.


Good idea. It's going to cause vibration. Seems like we all get "spare"
props this way at one time or another. And obviously, just kidding about
your flabble regulator. Actually, they will survive several nano-seconds
without water without permanent damage.

RCE

"K. Smith" wrote in message
...

RCE wrote:

"Charlie Brown" wrote in message
...

I had a brain fart and started the motor and it ran for literally less
than one second while the motor was tilted up. I immediately realized
my mistake and cut motor off. Motor is brand new, E-tec 90.

Is there likely to be any impeller issues?



Contrary to the opinions you are getting here, your new E-tec 90 is now
toast.
Running it without water, even for a couple of nano-seconds overheats the
flabble regulator and causes the eprom in the main stem to loose all
bubble memory. This is explicitly spelled out in the fine print of your
manual and any claims for warranty repair will be rejected. Just ask
Karen.


How about a thread on writing in proper English?




Thanks for that kind introduction Richard & welcome to a boating thread
how's it feel?? Do you need to post an OT movie??? how about a "how do I
work a power point" thread???

Charlie the impeller is probably fine but you do have an issue with the
impact, bent prop & definitely don't just drain & replace the gearcase oil
yourself!!! Seriously these E-Tec dealer grubs are out to blame you for
any & everything, so much so that the gearcase has a "special" dealer only
oil in it. "They say" it will last 3 yrs (warranty??) but they also accept
some water will get in there because they spruik the oil can still
lubricate even when there's water in the gearcase!! Has this claim been
consumer tested over time???, like all their other latest ficht upgrade
claims???

I hate myself (plenty of company around the NG:-)) for even suggesting
this, but you need to take it to an E-Tec dealer; book it in & tell them
in an email would be good (they're liars), that you've have had an impact
& can they check it "all" out. That way your warranty will be documented &
at least as safe as any of the E-Tec warranties:-) You are at risk having
bought this engine, power boat couldn't even nurse one to the end of a
test!!! So protect your warranty at all times & remember Bomb have OMC
warranty priors.

These E-Tec people really are loons!!! All the gearcases survive some
water getting in (they're just a poor design only one OB I know of has
pressure lube to the lower g/case but that's another story:-)) The problem
is not while they're being used it's when they're left for the winter the
water settles then rusts the bearings, next season the shaft bounces
around a little more so more water etc etc

The E-Tec claim of no "dealer" service for 3 yrs is a real worry in my
view & seems almost deliberately set up to give them an out.

Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change the
gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the oil
annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the US
they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine pricing
the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they can.

Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time.

Good luck.

K


See? He didn't even have to ask you.

RCE

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:23:50 +1000, "K. Smith" wrote:


Again for clarity (little water in the gearcase joke?) if "you" change
the gearcase oil you "must" use their dealer only gearcase oil or your
warranty on the gearcase will be toast. Why don't they just change the
oil annually like everyone else?? because it's dealer only oil & in the
US they'd have to give it away & believe me considering the engine
pricing the dealers are cleaning up on every little E-Tec dollar they can.

Let us know how it goes?? I'm betting they'll rip you off big time.

Good luck.

K

Thanks for the advice. Sounds like you really have something against
these motors though. There seem to be many reports of people using
them for several years with no problems. Not trying to start an E-tec
vs. 'whatever' thread though.

It is an aluminum prop. I will just get a new one.


Consider replacing it with a stainless steel prop. A stainless steel prop
would have likely survived your impact with little or no damage. If you
often boat in shallow water, it's the only way to go. It will save you much
grief and prop repair expenses. Get the aluminum prop professionally
repaired and it will serve you well as a lightweight, easy-to-stow, spare.

Based on your account, I feel you have nothing to worry about as to the
impeller issue. The gearcase seal issue is a bit more complicated.
Probably best to ask your dealer how best to handle that, assuming you have
a good feeling about the dealer's service department.