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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:16:17 -0500, Harry Krause
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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.
You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading
your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last
couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.



That's what went through my hollow head. After 3 hurricanes in one
year
in Florida, we threw in the towel, sold everything and moved back to
the
Northeast.

Why? Everything is new and built to withstand those storms now.

I wouldn't put too much faith in those "standards." First, there are
many ways around them at "inspection" time and, second, all sorts of
forces are extant during a strong hurricane.

Extant?

You'd think Harry would at least provide a link to the meaning of some of
his words.

RCE

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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.
You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.



That's what went through my hollow head. After 3 hurricanes in one year
in Florida, we threw in the towel, sold everything and moved back to the
Northeast.

Why? Everything is new and built to withstand those storms now.




I wouldn't put too much faith in those "standards." First, there are
many ways around them at "inspection" time and, second, all sorts of
forces are extant during a strong hurricane.

First of all, it's not a true statement that all buildings have to be
designed to withstand 140 mph winds in FL. Secondly, there's different
levels of design. Different design criteria for different components
such as cladding, main frames, shear walls, as well as roof uplift.
Hell, even the corners of buildings are designed differently than the
rest of the wall system because of negative wind pressures there.

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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.

You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading
your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last
couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.



No ****......I am working on a mid rise condo in Sarasota, it is
amazing
what we have to design for,

Really? Just how much structural engineering are you doing in Florida?
Do you have an engineering license to practice in Florida?


Quite possibly, he means "we" as being the construction company he works
for. Jeeze.

RCE

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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.
You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading
your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last
couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.



That's what went through my hollow head. After 3 hurricanes in one
year
in Florida, we threw in the towel, sold everything and moved back to
the
Northeast.

Why? Everything is new and built to withstand those storms now.




I wouldn't put too much faith in those "standards." First, there are
many ways around them at "inspection" time and, second, all sorts of
forces are extant during a strong hurricane.

First of all, it's not a true statement that all buildings have to be
designed to withstand 140 mph winds in FL. Secondly, there's different
levels of design. Different design criteria for different components
such as cladding, main frames, shear walls, as well as roof uplift.
Hell, even the corners of buildings are designed differently than the
rest of the wall system because of negative wind pressures there.


In honor of your obvious superior knowledge on Florida building codes, I
will amend my story about the pool enclosure to include my paraphrased
recollection of a statement in the contractor's standard contract that said
more of less that, by code, the frame shall be designed and installed in a
manner such to withstand continuous wind forces of 140 mph without failure.

It failed. At less than 140 mph.

RCE

On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:18:09 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

snippity-snip

Extant?

In existance.
Mark E. Williams

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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.

You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.



No ****......I am working on a mid rise condo in Sarasota, it is amazing
what we have to design for,


Really? Just how much structural engineering are you doing in Florida?
Do you have an engineering license to practice in Florida?


Do you think he's one of those 'carpetbaggers' who show up after major
storms to fleece the desperate & gullible?

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:16:17 -0500, Harry Krause
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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.

You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading
your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last
couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.




That's what went through my hollow head. After 3 hurricanes in one
year
in Florida, we threw in the towel, sold everything and moved back to
the
Northeast.

Why? Everything is new and built to withstand those storms now.

I wouldn't put too much faith in those "standards." First, there are
many ways around them at "inspection" time and, second, all sorts of
forces are extant during a strong hurricane.

Extant?


You'd think Harry would at least provide a link to the meaning of some of
his words.

RCE


extant
One entry found for extant.
Main Entry: ex·tant
Pronunciation: 'ek-st&nt; ek-'stant, 'ek-"
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin exstant-, exstans, present participle of exstare to
stand out, be in existence, from ex- + stare to stand -- more at STAND
1 archaic : standing out or above
2 a : currently or actually existing the most charming writer extant --
G. W. Johnson b : not destroyed or lost extant manuscripts

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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.

You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading
your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last
couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.




That's what went through my hollow head. After 3 hurricanes in one
year
in Florida, we threw in the towel, sold everything and moved back to
the
Northeast.

Why? Everything is new and built to withstand those storms now.




I wouldn't put too much faith in those "standards." First, there are
many ways around them at "inspection" time and, second, all sorts of
forces are extant during a strong hurricane.

First of all, it's not a true statement that all buildings have to be
designed to withstand 140 mph winds in FL. Secondly, there's different
levels of design. Different design criteria for different components
such as cladding, main frames, shear walls, as well as roof uplift.
Hell, even the corners of buildings are designed differently than the
rest of the wall system because of negative wind pressures there.



In honor of your obvious superior knowledge on Florida building codes, I
will amend my story about the pool enclosure to include my paraphrased
recollection of a statement in the contractor's standard contract that said
more of less that, by code, the frame shall be designed and installed in a
manner such to withstand continuous wind forces of 140 mph without failure.

It failed. At less than 140 mph.

RCE



Did the contractor replace it for free?

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Whoo Hoo!!!

Better over insure the boats and make sure they are on the coast in
time for the big one.

You can always come down here to Florida to escape any storm heading
your
way. All of our weak buildings have been destroyed over the last
couple
of years and rebuilt to stand up to 140mph+ winds.




That's what went through my hollow head. After 3 hurricanes in one
year
in Florida, we threw in the towel, sold everything and moved back to
the
Northeast.

Why? Everything is new and built to withstand those storms now.




I wouldn't put too much faith in those "standards." First, there are
many ways around them at "inspection" time and, second, all sorts of
forces are extant during a strong hurricane.

First of all, it's not a true statement that all buildings have to be
designed to withstand 140 mph winds in FL. Secondly, there's different
levels of design. Different design criteria for different components
such as cladding, main frames, shear walls, as well as roof uplift.
Hell, even the corners of buildings are designed differently than the
rest of the wall system because of negative wind pressures there.



In honor of your obvious superior knowledge on Florida building codes, I
will amend my story about the pool enclosure to include my paraphrased
recollection of a statement in the contractor's standard contract that
said more of less that, by code, the frame shall be designed and
installed in a manner such to withstand continuous wind forces of 140 mph
without failure.

It failed. At less than 140 mph.

RCE

Did the contractor replace it for free?

Hell no. There was still a one year waiting list for repairs from the two
hurricanes from the previous season.

Actually, we lucked out. The house was under agreement at the time Wilma
hit. In fact, the house inspection was originally scheduled for the day of
the hurricane, which is why I was down there in the first place. We
postponed the inspection until we got power back (took a week) and the
buyers of the house decided they liked the pool without the enclosure, so it
was no big deal. We ended up giving them a 10,000 dollar credit for the
minor roof damage and some landscaping rework.

RCE

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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:11:11 -0600, Maynard G. Krebbs
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:18:09 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

snippity-snip

Extant?

In existance.

Still in existence - as in extant manuscripts meaning manuscripts
which still exist.

I think he was using it to describe existing multiple winds, like confused
seas. At least that was my interpretation.

RCE