Well, that's kinda my point. We all pay school taxes because it is to
our common good to be surrounded by (nominally) educated youngsters
than by total illiterates (did I spell that correctly?).

Don't you think it is also to the common good that I should be out on
the river paddling, rather than mowing down trash cans (WHAT? Those
were GIRLS?) on the sidewalks?

Jus' wondrin', doncha know?
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:54:41 +0000, CalifBill wrote:


So.because he is an idiot, you become one also?

I was thinking it sounded like the beginnings of a nice road rage
incident. It's probably a good thing, they don't allow handguns in Canada.

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:54:41 +0000, CalifBill wrote:



So.because he is an idiot, you become one also?


I was thinking it sounded like the beginnings of a nice road rage
incident. It's probably a good thing, they don't allow handguns in Canada.


Damn straight...I would have capped his ass!

Oci-One Kanubi wrote:
Well, that's kinda my point. We all pay school taxes because it is to
our common good to be surrounded by (nominally) educated youngsters
than by total illiterates (did I spell that correctly?).

Don't you think it is also to the common good that I should be out on
the river paddling, rather than mowing down trash cans (WHAT? Those
were GIRLS?) on the sidewalks?

Jus' wondrin', doncha know?
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Oooooh Richard, that almost sounds like communism (Or at least
socialism...) to some... ;-)

And no, I don't mind paying taxes, as long as I don't see the money
being thrown away in some senseless bottomless pit (like a war, some
politician's prestige project or have it get stuck to some politician or
his buddy's greasy fingers...).
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Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
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Ya think you could take them both out on yer motorbike? That'd be some
fancy drivin!


"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, that's kinda my point. We all pay school taxes because it is to
our common good to be surrounded by (nominally) educated youngsters
than by total illiterates (did I spell that correctly?).

Don't you think it is also to the common good that I should be out on
the river paddling, rather than mowing down trash cans (WHAT? Those
were GIRLS?) on the sidewalks?

Jus' wondrin', doncha know?
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-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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. rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net
. Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll
. rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu
. OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters
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"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, that's kinda my point. We all pay school taxes because it is to
our common good to be surrounded by (nominally) educated youngsters
than by total illiterates (did I spell that correctly?).

Don't you think it is also to the common good that I should be out on
the river paddling, rather than mowing down trash cans (WHAT? Those
were GIRLS?) on the sidewalks?

Jus' wondrin', doncha know?
font face="courier"pre
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
--
================================================== ====================
Richard Hopley Winston-Salem, NC, USA
. rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net
. Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll
. rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu
. OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters
================================================== ====================
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And who paid for all our childhood education?

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Brian Nystrom" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message
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John, will you please stow that kind of talk until they stop taxing
people without kids, to pay for schools?

Yeah...that'll work. Elderly voters in my school district tried it.
They'd come to town & school board meetings and complain about school
taxes, and how they didn't think it was fair to them to pay for
extracurricular activities. In the same breath, they'd bitch about how
"kids just hang around in gangs, all aimless & stuff, with nothin' to do,
and then they get in trouble. Something's gotta be done!"

As someone who doesn't have or want kids, I see it from a different
perspective. While I'm willing to contribute to the common good, why
should I have to do so at the same rate as someone who thinks it's cool to
pop out 4 or 5 kids? For that matter, why should anyone get a tax
DEDUCTION for having kids? Those who consume the most in services should
pay the most in taxes. If you don't force people to pay their own way,
they don't learn personal responsibility and they don't think about the
consequences of their (reproductive) actions. The welfare system taught us
that, in spades.


I'm OK with adjusting school taxes as you described. But, I'd qualify the
change as follows. Anyone who voted that way should have to wear one of
those electric training collars that some hunters use to teach Poopy to
retrieve dead ducks. If you complained about young stupid retail employees
who can't make change, you'd get shocked. Not sure how to monitor the
behavior, but I'm sure something could be figured out.

It's been shown over and over again that the problem with public schools
is not a lack of money. Besides, if you tax people without kids less and
people with kids more, there should be no decrease in revenue.

The government gives people with hybrid vehicles a tax break. Why
shouldn't someone who uses a bicycle instead get an even larger one? Not
only do they use zero fossil fuel and create dramatically lower emissions,
but the environmental cost of building, maintaining and disposing of their
vehicle is several orders of magnitude lower. People who don't own cars at
all should get an even bigger break. As much as I like cars, need a car
and actually enjoy driving, it's pretty obvious that our priorities are
majorly screwed up.

I like the bike idea. But, only if roads are REALLY designed to make it safe
to use bikes. One step in that direction would be mandatory annual driving &
vision re-testing for anyone over 50. A few years back, an old lady here hit
two girls who were standing ON THE SIDEWALK. She said she thought they were
garbage cans. As much as I love biking, there aren't many places I feel
safe.

While such incidents make for great headlines, they're not indicative of
the true level of risk involved. On balance, you're probably much safer
riding a bike than you are driving a car. The health benefits of the
exercise far outweigh the risks.

Doug Kanter wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Doug Kanter wrote:


I like the bike idea. But, only if roads are REALLY designed to make it
safe to use bikes. One step in that direction would be mandatory annual
driving & vision re-testing for anyone over 50. A few years back, an old
lady here hit two girls who were standing ON THE SIDEWALK. She said she
thought they were garbage cans. As much as I love biking, there aren't
many places I feel safe.


Same here. About 8 months before I retired, I bought a 'comfort' type bike
from a well respected local bike shop. I had a number of the components
upgraded, such as crank, seat, rear wheel & spokes etc before picking it
up April 2003.
I used it regularly until the end of that October. I may have used it once
since then.
Here on the peninsula, the streets can be narrow and hilly with heavy
traffic at times. (think a smaller version of Boston downtown)


I don't understand why people don't think about elderly drivers correctly.
They think it's funny that old people drive down a 40 mph street doing 11
mph. But, nobody really wants to face reality and think about WHY old people
are driving that way.

Blame it on the AARP. They've done a heck of a job in blocking
common-sense laws that would require frequent driver testing of seniors.
It borders on being criminal. It's just a matter of time until they're
sued by the family of a victim of an incompetent senior driver. That day
can't come to soon.

CalifBill wrote:
"Oci-One Kanubi" wrote in message
ups.com...

Well, that's kinda my point. We all pay school taxes because it is to
our common good to be surrounded by (nominally) educated youngsters
than by total illiterates (did I spell that correctly?).

Don't you think it is also to the common good that I should be out on
the river paddling, rather than mowing down trash cans (WHAT? Those
were GIRLS?) on the sidewalks?

Jus' wondrin', doncha know?
font face="courier"pre
-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty
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. rhopley[at]earthlink[dot]net
. Nothing really matters except Boats, Sex, and Rock'n'Roll
. rhopley[at]wfubmc[dot]edu
. OK, OK; computer programming for scientific research also matters
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And who paid for all our childhood education?

Our parents did, who else? I think it's safe to say that they got a much
better deal for their money than we're getting. At least we came out of
public school with solid fundamentals and an understanding of basic
social skills like respect, common courtesy and common decency.

On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:24:59 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


My opinion is that all drivers should take a mandatory retest every three
years - teenagers once a year until they are twenty one.

It may be a myth that senior drivers are a hazard. Drivers over *80* have
fewer fatalities than drivers under 25. They also tend to be
self-limiting, driving on familiar roads, during daylight hours, and,
avoiding bad weather.

http://www.northeasttimes.com/2003/0...ordrivers.html