RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Yes, I've wiggled mine back and forth a few times until I liked the sound.

In my first marriage, I had a set of Klipschorns. Those were easy to
place: they went in the corners of the room.



I found that the Martin-Logans sound best about 4 feet away from any walls
which has created a bit of a problem. Some people I know just don't like
having big, towering speakers sitting out in the middle of the room. So,
they sit stored away until I can find a place to use them.

RCE



The 'boss' here made me put my good sized Yamaha speakers down in the
basement. I think she conspired with my sons to buy us a Home Theater
System for Christmas 2004. She's been complaining about my large black
speakers for years. They are now 23 years old.

When Telarc first recorded that, digitally, it was on a 33 1/3 rpm vinyl
record. The cannon shots could be seen in the grooves of the album, and
very few turntables could handle it. I had a Dual 1019 with a Shure
cartridge that handled it quite well. This was just before CD players came
out. Telarc was one of the first labels making digital albums, and I've
not
heard a bad one yet.

I still have that LP. As you say, the grooves in the LP sway about a full
millimeter back and forth when the cannons fire. I always had to increase
the tracking force on the turntable I owned when I first bought that record
in order to play it. Later a bought a Bang & Olufsen turntable (which I
still use today) that played it no problemo.


Get the Telarc "Pictures at an Exhibition". It's also great, as is the
Saint Saens "Organ" (Symphony No. 3). It will blow you away with a decent
sound system!

Ditto, with Telarc's recording of Stravinsky's "The Firebird", Robert Shaw,
Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and Chorus. Recorded digitally in June, 1978.
Telarc had digital recording down to a science before most outfits had even
stuck a toe in the water.

"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:05:58 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.

I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.


How true,

I have been converting all of my old cassette tapes to MP3 files using
Audacity and some of the old stuff I recorded from LP to cassette has so
many pops and cracks it is hard to believe we used to listen to that crap
and think it was true "audiophile" quality.

If I save my old cassettes at 320kbps the sound quality is really great.
Yes, I am saving the old cassettes to retain my "license" for the music.
I am currently looking for a Cd player radio for my boat that has an
auxiliary input on the face plate for an MP3 player to plug in.

I do not have an Ipod but I do have a Sony Mini Disc HI MD player.
I am trying to get my wife to buy me a Creative Zen 30 Gb mp3/video
player.

Fredo

Fredo


Being almost 'puter illiterate, I have to ask: Is there a special program
for converting, or can it be done through Windows Media (CDs to MP3)?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I use a free program called Audacity to record my cassettes to my hard drive
then export them as an MP3 to a music folder.
Here is a hyperlink to some info.

http://homerecording.about.com/b/a/169934.htm

Fredo

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JohnH wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:41:22 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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...........a 30gb Ipod is in my future and not the 4 gb Nano.

I have been importing songs from my CD's to my Itunes and now have
over
6GB of music (1,462 songs), with several more CD's left to import.

BTW: Itunes is a nice program and very versatile. If anyone has it
I
have a link to the optimal equalizer settings. Let me know if you
want
it. ;-)


I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason
the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me. Why would I
possibly want
thousands of poor quality, super compressed music files stored in one
of
these? I guess they have their purpose, whatever it is, as they seem
to be
very popular.

RCE
I'm currently eye-balling one of the Bose systems that stores several
hundred hours of music from CD's. I understand that you load in the CD,
ask the unit to memorize it, and a few minutes later all the data is
stored in the processing unit. The CD can then be stored away in case
it ever needs to be reloaded, or taken to play in the car or on the
boat. I don't know whether Bose is storing the music in an mp3 format,
or not, but the sound quality they are getting from a woofer and two
speakers probably 3 X 6 " is absolutely amazing. My wife kicked my old
stereo system out of the living room years ago, as she couldn't stand
four "big box" speakers and all the wires, etc. For about $1700, you
cannow get a system that sounds better (to my ears) than what $4000
used to buy- back when $4000 was real money.

I know that Bose also offers 12-volt units- has anybody tried one of
these on a boat and are they as astonishing as the home systems?

I put the Bose 3.1 system in the Navigator. It's the one that's
supposed to mimic a 5.1 system and has the big sub. Not to start a Bose
war here, but --- big mistake. Bose just doesn't hack it anymore for
me. Muddy and just blah sounding. I used to like Bose, but it was back
in the series 901 days.

RCE


I have to agree. I bought the Bose 'Lifestyle' system with five
mini-speakers and a woofer. I'd rather have gotten something else. Too
'bassy' (or muddy) for me also. Of course, it doesn't help that my high
frequency hearing is somewhat gone!


I've said it before and I'll say it again: there was NEVER any way those
bitty BOSE 901 speakers could cleanly reproduce music with a wide tonal
range. My father-in-law has that BOSE setup in his music room, and he has
some pretty fancy electronic components, and, in my opinion, it sounds
like...crap.

Sound reproduction requires REAL speakers. I like Klipschorns* and
full-height electrostatics with a good subwooder (which is what I have
these days).

* Real Klipschorns, not the bookshelf crap sold to hook up to computers.


IMHO Dahlquist used to make a really sweet e-stat speaker setup.

Fredo

"Don White" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news

Yes, I've wiggled mine back and forth a few times until I liked the
sound.

In my first marriage, I had a set of Klipschorns. Those were easy to
place: they went in the corners of the room.



I found that the Martin-Logans sound best about 4 feet away from any
walls which has created a bit of a problem. Some people I know just
don't like having big, towering speakers sitting out in the middle of the
room. So, they sit stored away until I can find a place to use them.

RCE

The 'boss' here made me put my good sized Yamaha speakers down in the
basement. I think she conspired with my sons to buy us a Home Theater
System for Christmas 2004. She's been complaining about my large black
speakers for years. They are now 23 years old.

I know the feeling. I finally had to donate my Polk monitor Series 10
speakers and my Boston Acoustic satellite speakers to my son's room last
year. My wife just did not like those large speakers in our family room.
I now have a JBL 6.1 surround sound speaker setup with a 10" powered
subwoofer. I liked the sound of those Polks a lot better.
I still have my first stereo receiver in the garage a Yamaha CR640 man that
thing has a really sensitive FM tuner.

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:13:18 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


If you use an Apple iPOD, you get a freebie copy of Apple's iTunes,
which automatically reads your CDs and converts them to high-grade files
that your iPOD will play.

[sigh] Apple iTunes is available to anyone for free, and can work on
many MP3 players.

You can download it here;

http://www.apple.com/itunes/affiliat...gn-mscache%3D1

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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:41:18 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Those be the ones. They sounded just like little bitty speakers to me.

Well, I am not promoting Bose by any means but if properly set up and
powered, the old Bose 901s could sound very good, IMO.

Properly set up, with the right powered amp, quite possibly the best
speaker out there.

I saw a demo once, were the Bose salesman literally plugged a 901
directly into an A/C wall outlet (110vac). It made a loud initial
crack sound, then sat there and loudly hummed. He left it "on" for
over 30 seconds, and there was no damage to the speaker.
__

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On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:46:42 -0700, "RG" wrote:


When Telarc first recorded that, digitally, it was on a 33 1/3 rpm vinyl
record. The cannon shots could be seen in the grooves of the album, and
very few turntables could handle it. I had a Dual 1019 with a Shure
cartridge that handled it quite well. This was just before CD players came
out. Telarc was one of the first labels making digital albums, and I've
not
heard a bad one yet.

I still have that LP. As you say, the grooves in the LP sway about a full
millimeter back and forth when the cannons fire. I always had to increase
the tracking force on the turntable I owned when I first bought that record
in order to play it. Later a bought a Bang & Olufsen turntable (which I
still use today) that played it no problemo.


Get the Telarc "Pictures at an Exhibition". It's also great, as is the
Saint Saens "Organ" (Symphony No. 3). It will blow you away with a decent
sound system!

Ditto, with Telarc's recording of Stravinsky's "The Firebird", Robert Shaw,
Atlanta Symphony Orchestra and Chorus. Recorded digitally in June, 1978.
Telarc had digital recording down to a science before most outfits had even
stuck a toe in the water.


Yes! Yes! There was a discount record store at our local mall back in the
late 70's. Having owned a few of the Telarc albums, I was glad to see the
CD's come out, but I had no CD player. One day I went to the record shop
only to see all the Telarc CD's (about 15 at that time) on sale for half
price (19.99 to 9.99) with another 20% off any purchase over $20. That was
all it took. I bought every Telarc CD, and with my savings bought my first
CD player. My friends then were saying that CDs would never take hold
because they couldn't reproduce the music accurately!

(Sounds kinda like the mp3 discussion of the last couple of days!)

Another favorite is "Music for the Royal Fireworks" from the
'Holst/Handel/Bach album with the Cleveland Symphonic Winds, also a 1978
recording.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:17:15 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:



"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:05:58 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.

I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.


How true,

I have been converting all of my old cassette tapes to MP3 files using
Audacity and some of the old stuff I recorded from LP to cassette has so
many pops and cracks it is hard to believe we used to listen to that crap
and think it was true "audiophile" quality.

If I save my old cassettes at 320kbps the sound quality is really great.
Yes, I am saving the old cassettes to retain my "license" for the music.
I am currently looking for a Cd player radio for my boat that has an
auxiliary input on the face plate for an MP3 player to plug in.

I do not have an Ipod but I do have a Sony Mini Disc HI MD player.
I am trying to get my wife to buy me a Creative Zen 30 Gb mp3/video
player.

Fredo

Fredo


Being almost 'puter illiterate, I have to ask: Is there a special program
for converting, or can it be done through Windows Media (CDs to MP3)?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I use a free program called Audacity to record my cassettes to my hard drive
then export them as an MP3 to a music folder.
Here is a hyperlink to some info.

http://homerecording.about.com/b/a/169934.htm

Fredo


Thanks, Fredo, I appreciate it.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:52:30 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason
the whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.
I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.

The problem with these things is the time involved in loading them up
with all
the songs in the first place, and then the things are designed to fail
after
about a year and you get to buy a new one to start loading all over
again. Do
you really want to sit here like an idiot and load 100 albums into the
damned
thing? Get XM or Sirius and leave all that stuff behind.




I use two programs from Anapod to store all my tunes in proper categories
on a hard drive and to "manipulate" files in all manner of interesting
ways. Reloading songs from one hard drive to the hard drive on my iPod is
quite fast.


I got the Ipod today, downloaded my 1,467 Itunes songs and have been messing
around with it for the last hour. I looked at Anapod but am not convinced
it is a better program than Itunes.

What does my $30 buy for me with Anapod that the Itunes (free) cannot do?

TIA.

BTW: The FM transmitter (
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=3661257 ) I got is OK
in my car but not so in my wife's SUV. I am thinking about a hardwire
connection for her car similar to this one:
http://peripheralelectronics.com/web/ipod2car.asp

Does anyone have any experience with this hardware?