"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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RCE wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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...........a 30gb Ipod is in my future and not the 4 gb Nano.

I have been importing songs from my CD's to my Itunes and now have over
6GB of music (1,462 songs), with several more CD's left to import.

BTW: Itunes is a nice program and very versatile. If anyone has it I
have a link to the optimal equalizer settings. Let me know if you want
it. ;-)



I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me. Why would I possibly
want thousands of poor quality, super compressed music files stored in
one of these? I guess they have their purpose, whatever it is, as they
seem to be very popular.

RCE

I'm something of an audiophile and find the newer iPods with good
earphones damn close to the original CDs on most tunes. Their beauty is
that you can take your music collection with you and listen to what you
want to listen to, when you want to listen.

I was dragged along on a shopping trip today and ended up plopping myself
in a great chair in a bookstore for an hour and a half today, listening to
Ludwig von's middle quartets. Made the mall experience pleasant, and I
*hate* shopping malls.

I also hook up iPod to my home stereo for convenience. Sounds very nice.

What hardware is needed for that Harry?

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:52:30 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason
the whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.
I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.

The problem with these things is the time involved in loading them up
with all
the songs in the first place, and then the things are designed to fail
after
about a year and you get to buy a new one to start loading all over
again. Do
you really want to sit here like an idiot and load 100 albums into the
damned
thing? Get XM or Sirius and leave all that stuff behind.




I use two programs from Anapod to store all my tunes in proper categories
on a hard drive and to "manipulate" files in all manner of interesting
ways. Reloading songs from one hard drive to the hard drive on my iPod is
quite fast.

Itunes is pretty fast and easy also. The program will generally import an
entire CD in less than a couple of minutes. I like the way the files can
then be edited, as well as the ability to make playlists as well as to be
able to group songs in various folders.

I will pass on XM or Sirius. Do you really want to sit there like an idiot
and pay for a music service yet have no control over the exact songs they
want to hear? ;-)

I enjoyed playing around with Itunes over the past few days and importing
and organizing my music from my CD's. Not much other things I had to get
done on a rainy Saturday and Sunday.

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RCE wrote:
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
...........a 30gb Ipod is in my future and not the 4 gb Nano.

I have been importing songs from my CD's to my Itunes and now have over
6GB of music (1,462 songs), with several more CD's left to import.

BTW: Itunes is a nice program and very versatile. If anyone has it I
have a link to the optimal equalizer settings. Let me know if you want
it. ;-)



I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me. Why would I possibly
want
thousands of poor quality, super compressed music files stored in one of
these? I guess they have their purpose, whatever it is, as they seem to
be
very popular.

RCE

I'm currently eye-balling one of the Bose systems that stores several
hundred hours of music from CD's. I understand that you load in the CD,
ask the unit to memorize it, and a few minutes later all the data is
stored in the processing unit. The CD can then be stored away in case
it ever needs to be reloaded, or taken to play in the car or on the
boat. I don't know whether Bose is storing the music in an mp3 format,
or not, but the sound quality they are getting from a woofer and two
speakers probably 3 X 6 " is absolutely amazing. My wife kicked my old
stereo system out of the living room years ago, as she couldn't stand
four "big box" speakers and all the wires, etc. For about $1700, you
cannow get a system that sounds better (to my ears) than what $4000
used to buy- back when $4000 was real money.

I know that Bose also offers 12-volt units- has anybody tried one of
these on a boat and are they as astonishing as the home systems?


I put the Bose 3.1 system in the Navigator. It's the one that's supposed to
mimic a 5.1 system and has the big sub. Not to start a Bose war here,
but --- big mistake. Bose just doesn't hack it anymore for me. Muddy and
just blah sounding. I used to like Bose, but it was back in the series 901
days.

RCE

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
...........a 30gb Ipod is in my future and not the 4 gb Nano.

I have been importing songs from my CD's to my Itunes and now have over
6GB of music (1,462 songs), with several more CD's left to import.

BTW: Itunes is a nice program and very versatile. If anyone has it I
have a link to the optimal equalizer settings. Let me know if you want
it. ;-)




Both my wife and I have the newer, larger capacity iPODs and we love them.
I use iTunes and two "Anapod" programs, too. I'd love that equalizer link,
just to see what's up with it.

Here it is: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...40902070807431

The settings resulted in a better overall sound........but perhaps I was
swayed by the write-up. I sent the link/settings to my daughter who did not
know about the equalizer feature and now claims to hear sounds from songs
she never heard before.

BTW: My son has a 30GB video Ipod and also loves it. I see no reason not
to go with it especially considering it is only $40 more than the 4GB Ipod
Nano.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:57:26 GMT, Mys Terry
wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:35:54 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:52:30 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason
the whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.
I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've
been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.

The problem with these things is the time involved in loading them up
with all
the songs in the first place, and then the things are designed to fail
after
about a year and you get to buy a new one to start loading all over
again. Do
you really want to sit here like an idiot and load 100 albums into the
damned
thing? Get XM or Sirius and leave all that stuff behind.

I will pass on XM or Sirius. Do you really want to sit there like an
idiot
and pay for a music service yet have no control over the exact songs they
want to hear? ;-)


It's $10 bucks a month for cryeye! Take out a loan if you have to. For the
situations where I would want a very portable device, It would be fine.
Selecting a channel playing exclusively a particular type of music would
fufill
the mission nicely, and I could even listen to something other than music
if I
wanted to. I don't have to hunt around menus looking for that particular
album
out of the hundreds I loaded on a device and then 45 minutes later look
around
for another album whose name I can't quite recall when the first one stops
playing.

When you watch a movie do you think you are an idiot because you paid to
get in
and then can't control the order of the scenes? Really.


I enjoyed playing around with Itunes over the past few days and importing
and organizing my music from my CD's. Not much other things I had to get
done on a rainy Saturday and Sunday.


If you didn't spend the whole weekend programming your stupid ipod, you
could
have read a really good book while listening to hassle free, higher
fidelity, XM
or Sirius radio! LOL

I have Sirius and love it.

Will pass.

"Mys Terry" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:41:22 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


I used to like Bose, but it was back in the series 901
days.

RCE


There used to be a saying:

No highs, no lows, it must be BOSE!

The 901's required a special active equalizer to compensate for the fact
that a
bunch of 4 inch speakers simply could not reproduce the full audible
spectrum
without electronic aid. The equalizer's job was to cut midrange and boost
low
and high frequencies to make them sound "almost" as good as a pair of
JBL
speakers with separate woofers, midrange and tweeters - and no goofy
workarounds.


True, although the 9, 4-inch speakers did the job, they just needed
attenuation of their natural frequency response curve.

The real "magic" of the original 901's was the direct/reflecting concept of
the speaker design. For it's time it was revolutionary and helped correct
the imaged left and right sound of early stereo recordings. It's
interesting now with the Dolby Digital and DTS surround systems that this is
all done at the recording level now and the trend is to go to speakers that
have high imaging qualities.

RCE

I will pass on XM or Sirius. Do you really want to sit there like an idiot
and pay for a music service yet have no control over the exact songs they
want to hear? ;-)

I'll jump in here The only reason I subscribe to XM is to hear the Red
Sox games while out on the water. That alone is worth the price of
admission...to me. I'm in california and WEEI doesn't quite make the trip.
The music isn't bad either.

Do you *really* have control over your music with an ipod? If you have
10,000 songs on that thing, how long would it take you to find a
*particular* song? Sure, I know you can make playlists, but that's done on
the computer. If you're out on the water with no computer, is it really that
much different than one of the commercial free sat services (other than
cost)? I have a dozen or so CDs with about 110 mp3s on each that I keep in
my boat. I find it difficult enough to find a song on a cd with 100+ tunes.
I couldn't imagine what 10,000 would be like g.

--Mike

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Mys Terry wrote:
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:52:30 -0500, Wayne.B

wrote:

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason
the whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.
I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.

The problem with these things is the time involved in loading them up
with all
the songs in the first place, and then the things are designed to fail
after
about a year and you get to buy a new one to start loading all over
again. Do
you really want to sit here like an idiot and load 100 albums into the
damned
thing? Get XM or Sirius and leave all that stuff behind.




I use two programs from Anapod to store all my tunes in proper categories
on a hard drive and to "manipulate" files in all manner of interesting
ways. Reloading songs from one hard drive to the hard drive on my iPod is
quite fast.

Itunes is pretty fast and easy also. The program will generally import an
entire CD in less than a couple of minutes. I like the way the files can
then be edited, as well as the ability to make playlists as well as to be
able to group songs in various folders.

I will pass on XM or Sirius. Do you really want to sit there like an idiot
and pay for a music service yet have no control over the exact songs they
want to hear? ;-)

I enjoyed playing around with Itunes over the past few days and importing
and organizing my music from my CD's. Not much other things I had to get
done on a rainy Saturday and Sunday.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:05:58 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.

I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.


How true,

I have been converting all of my old cassette tapes to MP3 files using
Audacity and some of the old stuff I recorded from LP to cassette has so
many pops and cracks it is hard to believe we used to listen to that crap
and think it was true "audiophile" quality.

If I save my old cassettes at 320kbps the sound quality is really great.
Yes, I am saving the old cassettes to retain my "license" for the music.
I am currently looking for a Cd player radio for my boat that has an
auxiliary input on the face plate for an MP3 player to plug in.

I do not have an Ipod but I do have a Sony Mini Disc HI MD player.
I am trying to get my wife to buy me a Creative Zen 30 Gb mp3/video player.

Fredo

Fredo


Being almost 'puter illiterate, I have to ask: Is there a special program
for converting, or can it be done through Windows Media (CDs to MP3)?
--
'Til next time,

John H

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:05:58 GMT, "FREDO" wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:09:10 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me.

I don't have an Ipod but sort of understand the appeal since I've been
collecting MP3s on my PCs for more years than I can remember. It's
sort of like having an on demand juke box of all of your favorite
tunes. If you get the sampling rate high enough the quality is not
all that bad and certainly a lot better than the gear that most of us
had back in the 50s and 60s.


How true,

I have been converting all of my old cassette tapes to MP3 files using
Audacity and some of the old stuff I recorded from LP to cassette has so
many pops and cracks it is hard to believe we used to listen to that crap
and think it was true "audiophile" quality.

If I save my old cassettes at 320kbps the sound quality is really great.
Yes, I am saving the old cassettes to retain my "license" for the music.
I am currently looking for a Cd player radio for my boat that has an
auxiliary input on the face plate for an MP3 player to plug in.

I do not have an Ipod but I do have a Sony Mini Disc HI MD player.
I am trying to get my wife to buy me a Creative Zen 30 Gb mp3/video
player.

Fredo

Fredo


Being almost 'puter illiterate, I have to ask: Is there a special program
for converting, or can it be done through Windows Media (CDs to MP3)?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Itunes.

On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:11:56 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...
...........a 30gb Ipod is in my future and not the 4 gb Nano.

I have been importing songs from my CD's to my Itunes and now have over
6GB of music (1,462 songs), with several more CD's left to import.

BTW: Itunes is a nice program and very versatile. If anyone has it I
have a link to the optimal equalizer settings. Let me know if you want
it. ;-)



I was always an electronic gizmo and gadget nut, but for some reason the
whole appeal of Ipods and the like is lost on me. Why would I possibly
want thousands of poor quality, super compressed music files stored in
one of these? I guess they have their purpose, whatever it is, as they
seem to be very popular.

RCE


I guess I am not an audiophile as the mp3's sound fine to me. ;-)

I also like the idea of not having to lug around a bunch of CD's and have
all my music at my fingertips in a credit card sized piece of hardware.

Different strokes I guess........ ;-)


I don't consider myself an audiophile by any means. Those people are
obsessed. I can, though, hear a big difference in quality between a poor CD
recording and a good one and then the difference between a really good CD or
DVD recording and a SACD recording. Compressed mp3 files sound terrible by
comparison. Not to sound snotty, but part of the problem is the equipment
being used to play the music. "Boom boxes", most car audio systems and 500
dollar Sony 5.1 channel systems are going to produce any source material
equally lousy, so those that use them can't hear and appreciate the
difference. Nothing wrong with that of course, but there is so much more to
enjoy when listening on a decent system with time put aside and dedicated
to really listen to the performance.

So, one of the reasons I hate to see the popularity of mp3 compressed files
is that they are for convenience, not for quality. As they gain in
popularity it will become difficult and expensive to produce a conventional,
high quality CD due to the reduced market. The audiophile community is
already bemoaning the death of CDs as a media, much like LPs of years ago in
favor of the more popular Ipod type devices using compressed mp3 technology.
SACD and DVD-A recordings are becoming scarce and their production is
limited. It's too bad, because an evening of listening to good quality
recordings that gives you goosebumps may be coming to an end.

BTW - on the subject of music - I think it was Harry that recently
recommended an album entitled "Bronx Blue" by Dion. I got a copy and it's
excellent. A very different Dion, that's for sure. Also - for any
classical fans with SACD systems, check out Telarc's release of
Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture performed by the Cincinnati Pops Orchestra.
It's recorded in DSD (direct stream digital) and is fabulous. It will play
on conventional CD players, but to really get the full effect of this
superb recording technique, you must have a SACD setup and an amp and
speakers that can handle a very wide dynamic range. There are 6 other
classical recordings on it plus 5 tracks dedicated to system setup.

There's a warning though ... the cannons are loud and real sounding. Prior
to listening, caulk any loose windows in your house.

RCE


When Telarc first recorded that, digitally, it was on a 33 1/3 rpm vinyl
record. The cannon shots could be seen in the grooves of the album, and
very few turntables could handle it. I had a Dual 1019 with a Shure
cartridge that handled it quite well. This was just before CD players came
out. Telarc was one of the first labels making digital albums, and I've not
heard a bad one yet.

Get the Telarc "Pictures at an Exhibition". It's also great, as is the
Saint Saens "Organ" (Symphony No. 3). It will blow you away with a decent
sound system!

I've been a Telarc fan for a long time, but they started producing a lot of
'off the wall' stuff and I haven't bought one for several years.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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