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I've posted the first installment of what I hope will be a "happy" tale
on the Pacific NW Boating site. The item does mention two companies
with which I am doing business, and due to that fact it would receive a
mixed reaction here. I have mentioned my boat project in the past, but
here are some additional details for anybody interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/Pacif...5b9c4c3b4d2245

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--
Skipper

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

From an objective, impersonal, and probably financially rational
perspective it would probably make sense to pass our beloved boat
along to the next owner (for whatever we could realize) and start
afreshwith a new, or much newer vessel. In fact, we did a little
casual shopping at some of the recent boat shows

So, did you consider that trawler berthed at the junkyard by its owner
you said only needed a bit of cosmetic work? You once stated you were
considering buying her. She certainly was a much better boat than
Indulgence.

--
Skipper

According to a guy who has never seen my boat, or the other boat he
refers to.

But then again, knowing the first thing about whatever sewage you are
loading into your poison pen has never been a prerequisite for posting
about sal****er adventures in a little Kansas-based runabout, has it,
Dave?

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

So, did you consider that trawler berthed at the junkyard by its owner
you said only needed a bit of cosmetic work? You once stated you were
considering buying her. She certainly was a much better boat than
Indulgence.

According to a guy who has never seen my boat, or the other boat he
refers to.

But then again, knowing the first thing about whatever sewage you are
loading into your poison pen has never been a prerequisite for posting
about sal****er adventures in a little Kansas-based runabout, has it,
Dave?

Shall we post pix of both boats and let the group voice their opinions?
Why are you stiff arming the comparison of those two boats? You know it
was a legit question.

--
Skipper


Post away. I'll leave it up to you to provide the pictures, as you
claim to be able to do so and I frankly have no idea about what boat
you might be referring to as "parked in a junk yard".

I'm sure that the opinions from people who are prepared to judge a boat
based on nothing more than a photo will be interesting indeed. But at
least you will be discussing boats for a change- even if it's your
intention to do so in a disparaging fashion.

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Harry Krause wrote:
wrote:
Skipper wrote:
wrote:

So, did you consider that trawler berthed at the junkyard by its owner
you said only needed a bit of cosmetic work? You once stated you were
considering buying her. She certainly was a much better boat than
Indulgence.
According to a guy who has never seen my boat, or the other boat he
refers to.
But then again, knowing the first thing about whatever sewage you are
loading into your poison pen has never been a prerequisite for posting
about sal****er adventures in a little Kansas-based runabout, has it,
Dave?
Shall we post pix of both boats and let the group voice their opinions?
Why are you stiff arming the comparison of those two boats? You know it
was a legit question.

--
Skipper


Post away. I'll leave it up to you to provide the pictures, as you
claim to be able to do so and I frankly have no idea about what boat
you might be referring to as "parked in a junk yard".

I'm sure that the opinions from people who are prepared to judge a boat
based on nothing more than a photo will be interesting indeed. But at
least you will be discussing boats for a change- even if it's your
intention to do so in a disparaging fashion.



It's obvious Snippy is insanely jealous of you, your lifestyle, your
locale, your profession and your boat. What's your guess as to Snipper's
age? I'm guessing about 70.

I'd say either 80, with Alsheimers, or 10 with mommy's computer.....!

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Harry Krause wrote:

Let's see a picture of your boat, Snippy. I'm sure we can find something
to compare it to, eh?

When are you leaving on that imaginary seven-week cruise you mentioned
the other day?

Oh maybe tomorrow, maybe the next. Packed, the Navman's been loaded, now
if I can only get lucky with my thumb...

--
Skipper

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Harry Krause wrote:
Skipper wrote:

wrote:

From an objective, impersonal, and probably financially rational
perspective it would probably make sense to pass our beloved boat
along to the next owner (for whatever we could realize) and start
afreshwith a new, or much newer vessel. In fact, we did a little
casual shopping at some of the recent boat shows


So, did you consider that trawler berthed at the junkyard by its owner
you said only needed a bit of cosmetic work? You once stated you were
considering buying her. She certainly was a much better boat than
Indulgence.

--
Skipper



Why do two of your neighbors say you still have that clapped-out
Bayliner around?

Wonder if anyone else here lives within a reasonable driving distance of
Skipper. We could chip in on the gas if they'd go inspect his property
and report back. I'm curious if he still does have an old Bayliner
squatting forlornly in his driveway.

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Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:


Let's see a picture of your boat, Snippy. I'm sure we can find something
to compare it to, eh?


When are you leaving on that imaginary seven-week cruise you mentioned
the other day?


Oh maybe tomorrow, maybe the next. Packed, the Navman's been loaded, now
if I can only get lucky with my thumb...

--
Skipper


Sitting on it again?

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:10:25 -0600, Skipper wrote:

wrote:

From an objective, impersonal, and probably financially rational
perspective it would probably make sense to pass our beloved boat
along to the next owner (for whatever we could realize) and start
afreshwith a new, or much newer vessel. In fact, we did a little
casual shopping at some of the recent boat shows

So, did you consider that trawler berthed at the junkyard by its owner
you said only needed a bit of cosmetic work? You once stated you were
considering buying her. She certainly was a much better boat than
Indulgence.

FWIW, I liked your first post better.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

What's your guess as to Snipper's age? I'm guessing about 70.

Naw. People with such hatred and/or jealousy of others don't live that
long.

RCE

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RCE wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote...

What's your guess as to Snipper's age? I'm guessing about 70.

Naw. People with such hatred and/or jealousy of others don't live that
long.

Jealousy? Hatred? I'll be cruising warm climes the next few week while
others are still chippin ice, or bobbin for bluegills. And I've been
involved in competitive sports since the 50s...active and happy. But
you're right on one count, I'm not close to 70...yet. How bout a game o'
9-ball, or a little nassua on the links?

--
Skipper

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote...

What's your guess as to Snipper's age? I'm guessing about 70.

Naw. People with such hatred and/or jealousy of others don't live that
long.

Jealousy? Hatred? I'll be cruising warm climes the next few week while
others are still chippin ice, or bobbin for bluegills. And I've been
involved in competitive sports since the 50s...active and happy. But
you're right on one count, I'm not close to 70...yet. How bout a game o'
9-ball, or a little nassua on the links?

--
Skipper

Bought new Game Pac software for your computer, huh?

RCE

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wrote in message
oups.com...
I've posted the first installment of what I hope will be a "happy" tale
on the Pacific NW Boating site. The item does mention two companies
with which I am doing business, and due to that fact it would receive a
mixed reaction here. I have mentioned my boat project in the past, but
here are some additional details for anybody interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/Pacif...5b9c4c3b4d2245



Very nice Chuck. Best of luck with the restoration and upgrades.

Question.....why 3 coats of epoxy barrier coat?

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote...

What's your guess as to Snipper's age? I'm guessing about 70.

Naw. People with such hatred and/or jealousy of others don't live that
long.

Jealousy? Hatred? I'll be cruising warm climes the next few week while
others are still chippin ice, or bobbin for bluegills. And I've been
involved in competitive sports since the 50s...active and happy. But
you're right on one count, I'm not close to 70...yet. How bout a game o'
9-ball, or a little nassua on the links?

--
Skipper

Bought new Game Pac software for your computer, huh?

RCE




I think he finally conquered this one:

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/25289

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...


I think he finally conquered this one:

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/25289




I remember that one. Activision had some cool games for the Atari. My
favorite was "KA-BOOM".
It had the guy in a black mask dropping round, black bombs with fuses. Each
level got faster and faster. I mastered each level, but eventually wore out
the potentiometers on the controller. Had to buy the kids a new Atari.


RCE

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:44:31 -0600, Skipper wrote:

How bout a game o'
9-ball

Anytime, anywhere.

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"RCE" wrote in message
...

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...


I think he finally conquered this one:

http://www.avclub.com/content/node/25289




I remember that one. Activision had some cool games for the Atari. My
favorite was "KA-BOOM".
It had the guy in a black mask dropping round, black bombs with fuses.
Each level got faster and faster. I mastered each level, but eventually
wore out the potentiometers on the controller. Had to buy the kids a new
Atari.


RCE


A real blast from the past.

http://www.apple.com/games/articles/2004/01/anthology/

http://www.atariage.com/2600/?SystemID=2600

http://www.atariage.com/software_pag...areLabelID=257

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Gee, all the posters are named Chuck.....:) A little lonesome there, eh?
JR

wrote:

I've posted the first installment of what I hope will be a "happy" tale
on the Pacific NW Boating site. The item does mention two companies
with which I am doing business, and due to that fact it would receive a
mixed reaction here. I have mentioned my boat project in the past, but
here are some additional details for anybody interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/Pacif...5b9c4c3b4d2245



--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth

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Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Shall we post pix of both boats and let the group voice their opinions?
Why are you stiff arming the comparison of those two boats? You know it
was a legit question.

Post away. I'll leave it up to you to provide the pictures, as you
claim to be able to do so and I frankly have no idea about what boat
you might be referring to as "parked in a junk yard".

Faulty memory again, eh? So you had a lot of single engined trawlers
built by retired Alaska fishermen berthed at Adventure that were later
taken to the owners junk yard while still listed? Hard to keep track of
all those I'd bet. Do you remember telling the owner that he'd have a
harder time selling if he took the boat back to his junk yard?

--
Skipper

You have to remember that your visit up here was one of the highlights
of your life, not mine. Yes, I do remember a boat that left the
brokerage dock to go down to a commercial dock in Tacoma. The owner of
the boat ran a huge scrap metal business, (not a "junkyard") and the
boat was moored at his own private commercial dock, not "parked in a
junkyard". And yeah, it is certainly a lot tougher to sell a yacht in
an "industrial" environment. After all these years, however, I'm not
sure I clearly remember the details of the boat. Where are the pics you
promised? Down thread maybe? I'll keep looking.

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basskisser wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

wrote:

Skipper wrote:

wrote:


So, did you consider that trawler berthed at the junkyard by its owner
you said only needed a bit of cosmetic work? You once stated you were
considering buying her. She certainly was a much better boat than
Indulgence.

According to a guy who has never seen my boat, or the other boat he
refers to.
But then again, knowing the first thing about whatever sewage you are
loading into your poison pen has never been a prerequisite for posting
about sal****er adventures in a little Kansas-based runabout, has it,
Dave?

Shall we post pix of both boats and let the group voice their opinions?
Why are you stiff arming the comparison of those two boats? You know it
was a legit question.

--
Skipper


Post away. I'll leave it up to you to provide the pictures, as you
claim to be able to do so and I frankly have no idea about what boat
you might be referring to as "parked in a junk yard".

I'm sure that the opinions from people who are prepared to judge a boat
based on nothing more than a photo will be interesting indeed. But at
least you will be discussing boats for a change- even if it's your
intention to do so in a disparaging fashion.



It's obvious Snippy is insanely jealous of you, your lifestyle, your
locale, your profession and your boat. What's your guess as to Snipper's
age? I'm guessing about 70.


I'd say either 80, with Alsheimers, or 10 with mommy's computer.....!

Is that a new disease?

Maybe he borrowed Kevin Noble's computer.

The last thing I would do is support Dave, but you have to try harder
when you post.

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wrote in message
oups.com...

Skipper wrote:
wrote:

Shall we post pix of both boats and let the group voice their
opinions?
Why are you stiff arming the comparison of those two boats? You know
it
was a legit question.

Post away. I'll leave it up to you to provide the pictures, as you
claim to be able to do so and I frankly have no idea about what boat
you might be referring to as "parked in a junk yard".

Faulty memory again, eh? So you had a lot of single engined trawlers
built by retired Alaska fishermen berthed at Adventure that were later
taken to the owners junk yard while still listed? Hard to keep track of
all those I'd bet. Do you remember telling the owner that he'd have a
harder time selling if he took the boat back to his junk yard?

--
Skipper

You have to remember that your visit up here was one of the highlights
of your life, not mine. Yes, I do remember a boat that left the
brokerage dock to go down to a commercial dock in Tacoma. The owner of
the boat ran a huge scrap metal business, (not a "junkyard") and the
boat was moored at his own private commercial dock, not "parked in a
junkyard". And yeah, it is certainly a lot tougher to sell a yacht in
an "industrial" environment. After all these years, however, I'm not
sure I clearly remember the details of the boat. Where are the pics you
promised? Down thread maybe? I'll keep looking.


Chuck...........ignore him. You do not have to prove anything here. It is
Skippy who lacks the credibility and trust.

If everyone ignores him...........he goes away. ;-)

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JR North wrote:
Gee, all the posters are named Chuck.....:) A little lonesome there, eh?
JR

wrote:

I've posted the first installment of what I hope will be a "happy" tale
on the Pacific NW Boating site. The item does mention two companies
with which I am doing business, and due to that fact it would receive a
mixed reaction here. I have mentioned my boat project in the past, but
here are some additional details for anybody interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/Pacif...5b9c4c3b4d2245



--
--------------------------------------------------------------
Home Page: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth


Hey, according to my site manager's info sheet, there are now a total
of 7 subscribers to that group.
Another 35 or so and I'll probably eclipse rec boats. :-)

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On 28 Feb 2006 16:47:09 -0800, wrote:

Hey, according to my site manager's info sheet, there are now a total
of 7 subscribers to that group.
Another 35 or so and I'll probably eclipse rec boats. :-)

There's no question that you are da man on Pacific-NW-Boating.

Interestingly enough, Google Groups reports 479 "subscribers" to
rec.boats. Lots of lurkers I guess.

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Wayne. B wrote:
On 28 Feb 2006 16:47:09 -0800, wrote:

Hey, according to my site manager's info sheet, there are now a total
of 7 subscribers to that group.
Another 35 or so and I'll probably eclipse rec boats. :-)

There's no question that you are da man on Pacific-NW-Boating.

Interestingly enough, Google Groups reports 479 "subscribers" to
rec.boats. Lots of lurkers I guess.

If it takes 479 subscribers to get the couple of dozen frequent
participants we see here, you are right- lot's of lurkers.

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"Wayne.B" wrote:

Skipper wrote:

How bout a game o' 9-ball

Anytime, anywhere.

Now this *is* getting interesting! I'll get back with you on this when I
return.

--
Skipper

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" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
I've posted the first installment of what I hope will be a "happy" tale
on the Pacific NW Boating site. The item does mention two companies
with which I am doing business, and due to that fact it would receive a
mixed reaction here. I have mentioned my boat project in the past, but
here are some additional details for anybody interested:

http://groups.google.com/group/Pacif...5b9c4c3b4d2245



Very nice Chuck. Best of luck with the restoration and upgrades.

Question.....why 3 coats of epoxy barrier coat?


Ignored and abused................ :-(

I will give it another go.................why 3 coats of epoxy barrier coat
Chuck?

Makeover... why 3 barrier coats
 

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JimH wrote:
Very nice Chuck. Best of luck with the restoration and upgrades.
Question.....why 3 coats of epoxy barrier coat?


JimH wrote:
Ignored and abused................ :-(

I will give it another go.................why 3 coats of epoxy barrier coat
Chuck?


Have patience, Jim!

I can't answer why Chuck put 3 barrier coats on his boat,
but I can tell you about putting 4 barrier coats on ours.

The recommendation was to put on a coat of straight WEST
epoxy resin, which is kind of a PITA but it sticks to
anything & is highly waterproof itself, then roll on 2 coats
of the barrier coat itself (Interlux's product) which is
also a 2-part mixture. We mixed a can and rolled on 4/5 of a
coat, mixed the next can and finished that plus 2/3 of the
next one... so we mixed a third can and finished the
recommended second coat plus used up what we had... which
oddly enough, was *exactly* the right amount to finish a 3rd
coat.

I figure that we don't have to worry about water penetration
into the laminate of our hull. Unless the guys who wrote
labels for the cans lied, we should be all but bulletproof
below the waterline. I mean, we got titanium & boron!

Fair Skies- Doug King

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Gene Kearns wrote:

Just a cue isn't good enough... now we gotta talk highly modified
sissy cues that look good above the mantel, but no real pool player
would be caught dead with..... but that is the difference between form
and substance.

Any *player* worth his salt carries a good cue. Even shortstops and
railbirds carry good cues today. I have many good cues, Palmer, Black,
Peterson & Martin. Here's one you can verify, Richard Black Buska dated
April 15, 2005. He keeps records of all his cues.

In short.... reality vs. dream sequence.

In fact, I taught my 21 year old son to play 9-ball.... I'll put him
up against YOU any day..... Skipper... if you don't mind being
belittled by a kid that understands substance over form....

I don't mind. I've lost games to Mosconi, Caras, Peterson, Ronnie Allen,
Richie Florence, and a whole host of others. But your son should know
I've played the best at national tournaments and won a couple state
tournaments. Perhaps your son would like a one pocket lesson also.

.... then, if that isn't enough, I'll kick your 9-ball butt....

Have at it. Gabe Owen's dad has a room in Wichita called Tight Pockets.
We can play there with plenty of witnesses when I return from cruising.

only caveat is that you'll have to come clean about your boat and your
boating experiences..... again, form will be chosen over substance
because you don't have anything to offer, right?

What kind of stakes do you have in mind for our little game? Something
of substance I would assume.

--
Skipper

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Harry Krause wrote:

Just a cue isn't good enough... now we gotta talk highly modified
sissy cues that look good above the mantel, but no real pool player
would be caught dead with..... but that is the difference between form
and substance.

In short.... reality vs. dream sequence.

You're probably right. The reality, of course, is that any average
player using a house stick would clean Snipper's clock.

You bet!

--
Skipper

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Skipper wrote:

In fact, I taught my 21 year old son to play 9-ball.... I'll put him
up against YOU any day..... Skipper... if you don't mind being
belittled by a kid that understands substance over form....

I don't mind. I've lost games to Mosconi, Caras, Peterson, Ronnie Allen,
Richie Florence, and a whole host of others. But your son should know
I've played the best at national tournaments and won a couple state
tournaments. Perhaps your son would like a one pocket lesson also.

.... then, if that isn't enough, I'll kick your 9-ball butt....

Have at it. Gabe Owen's dad has a room in Wichita called Tight Pockets.
We can play there with plenty of witnesses when I return from cruising.

Just in case you don't know who Gabe is:

http://tinyurl.com/pp99c

--
Skipper

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wrote in message
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Wayne. B wrote:
On 28 Feb 2006 16:47:09 -0800, wrote:

Hey, according to my site manager's info sheet, there are now a total
of 7 subscribers to that group.
Another 35 or so and I'll probably eclipse rec boats. :-)

There's no question that you are da man on Pacific-NW-Boating.

Interestingly enough, Google Groups reports 479 "subscribers" to
rec.boats. Lots of lurkers I guess.

If it takes 479 subscribers to get the couple of dozen frequent
participants we see here, you are right- lot's of lurkers.

Well, I guess you could call me a lurker--I did, in the past, post some.
However, unlike
some of the current regular "participants", such as those who can survey
boats by
looking at a picture, and the prolific "OT" posters, I didn't really have
any new information
to add so kept my mouth shut. Looking at it that way, we would all be
better off
with a few more of the regular posters reverting to lurking.

By lurking occasionally I can keep up on some of the interesting posts, such
as the one starting this thread, "Extreme Makeover".

Dan
Real boat owner.

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:16:39 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On 28 Feb 2006 16:47:09 -0800, wrote:

Hey, according to my site manager's info sheet, there are now a total
of 7 subscribers to that group.
Another 35 or so and I'll probably eclipse rec boats. :-)

There's no question that you are da man on Pacific-NW-Boating.

Interestingly enough, Google Groups reports 479 "subscribers" to
rec.boats. Lots of lurkers I guess.


432 of those are Smithers.

And 17 are you.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 20:55:53 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Snipper, there's no evidence extant that shows you know anything at all
about boats.

He has clearly shown he knows a lot about boats/boating. It the stuff
that cant be faked, unlike you.

You have been proven a plagiarizer, and a liar...*YOU* give it up.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

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On Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:59:34 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

Fantasy mode on;

Now,
I have a production Parker. It is highly unmodified. I've added
electronics, but everything else is factory stock, and it seems
perfectly suitable for fishing or day cruising. Even has a refrigerator,
flushing head, running water and a stovetop. But the boat is unmodified.

Fantasy mode off;

Skipper is a fraud who appeals only to the other frauds here, like Karen
Smith and that USO gofer, Greenhalgh, who, by the way, I outed a bit
earlier today.

ROTFLMAO! First off, you "outed" no one you moron. Everybody here
knows my name, and where I work...that is all public information.
Don't try to pat yourself on the back, just because you can click a
mouse.

And for you to call anybody a fraud, is the most utterly ridiculous
thing ever to come out of that bird-brained controlled pie hole of
yours!

....sorry...I cant finish...I'm still in a uncontrolled belly laugh...
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

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Netsock wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Snipper, there's no evidence extant that shows you know anything at all
about boats.

He has clearly shown he knows a lot about boats/boating. It the stuff
that cant be faked, unlike you.

You have been proven a plagiarizer, and a liar...*YOU* give it up.

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Why do you think it is that Krause attempts to belittle those he knows
truly walk the talk?

--
Skipper