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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:29:35 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?

My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes at
a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE


My daughter used a shock collar on their new bulldog. They used it to keep
it from jumping on visitors, and it worked well. I don't see how it could
be useful to keep a dog from barking only at certain times and places. I
would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for
example.

The collar didn't help a bit when it came to the dog's chewing of
furniture!


I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own crappy
furniture.


Our 14 year old cat is always sharpening her claws on our living room
furniture. We're constantly after her. I might have to find one of the
boys old water pistols. That should make her think twice.

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:07:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

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I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.




I am sitting here at my desk - a nice desk. It's oval in shape and has a
leather top with drawers and compartments all over the place for my stuff.
Mrs.E found it in a very unusual furniture shop.

Since Sam Adams joined the family 10 months ago the bottom of the desk has
acquired lots of teeth marks and chew damage. I've repaired it once by
sanding and staining, but the damage is done.

But, the way I look at it, ... 20 years from now (if I am still around) I
am going to look at the bottom of the damaged desk and will recall, with
fond, happy memories, the unique creature that he is, Samuel Adams. The
furniture can be repaired or replaced. The unique personality of a living
creature, even a lowly dog, cannot.



RCE


Wonder if you could splash something on the legs that would deter the
dog but not harm the wood finish?

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JohnH wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:07:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

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I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.



I am sitting here at my desk - a nice desk. It's oval in shape and has a
leather top with drawers and compartments all over the place for my stuff.
Mrs.E found it in a very unusual furniture shop.

Since Sam Adams joined the family 10 months ago the bottom of the desk has
acquired lots of teeth marks and chew damage. I've repaired it once by
sanding and staining, but the damage is done.

But, the way I look at it, ... 20 years from now (if I am still around) I
am going to look at the bottom of the damaged desk and will recall, with
fond, happy memories, the unique creature that he is, Samuel Adams. The
furniture can be repaired or replaced. The unique personality of a living
creature, even a lowly dog, cannot.



RCE



Understandable. I feel the same way about Buffy, my lab, who, BTW, is going
to the vet this afternoon. The tumor is looking worse every day. I'm afraid
the time is coming very soon to have her put to sleep.

The bulldog has gone through the legs and several cushions of the family
room furniture, chewed the corners off an oak coffee table, chewed the
corners off all the low window sills in the kitchen and family room, and
has now started on the new furniture. If it were an only dog that they'd
had for a while, I could understand it better. They've got another dog, two
cats, and two (soon to be three) kids under four years old. Perhaps the dog
just needs the attention someone like you or I could provide. As it is, the
dog spends most of its life in a cage. I don't like it, but it's their dog.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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Can they throw a 2 x 4 in the cage with it?
preferably a wood that doesn't splinter.

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The problem is that you have to connect the discipline with the
activity - just like a two year old. He's used to getting a reward
for coming in, but at the same time, it's not connected to the
unwanted barking activity. In his mind, he barks, you holler, he gets
to come in and chow down. It's much to complicated for him to
understand at this point. Later on, he might make the connection, but
not at this age.

You have to be with him to get him to stop or use a mechanical device.
Not to be difficult, but I've tried. I have spent an hour at a time
with him out there several times. If I am with him, he doesn't bark
because he's too busy trying to get me to play. (which he is mostly
successful at).

I went down to the PetMart or whatever it is this morning and found a
spray collar. It was in a locked case so the store manager was called
to open it. As he handed it to me he asked what kind of dog I had. I
told him he was a 10 and a half month old, 94lb Lab. The guy laughed at
me and took the spray collar package back. He said it wouldn't faze him
at all. So, I asked what he recommended and he produced a collar that
looks like it came from the dark caverns of the Inquisition. It's a
shock type with two metal prongs and an adjustable shock level.

Couldn't do it. Handed it back to him and said thanks, anyway.

RCE

I think it was Gary Larson (Far Side) who once did a cartoon about labs.
4 frames showing various dog moods. Happy, sad, bored, sad. In all four,
the lab is sorta smiling with its tongue hanging out, and drooling.
Great cartoon, but it was about the only dog dumber than a lab, an Irish
Setter, the blond of the dog world.

--
Reggie

I think that's what my neighbor had. When the wind blew, the dog's skull
made a sound like a conch shell.


Yes, but the dog always had a smile on his face.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

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Wonder if you could splash something on the legs that would deter the dog
but not harm the wood finish?

That's a thought. Horses sometimes develop a habit of putting their top
teeth on a rail or feed bucket and pulling on it. It's called "cribbing"
and, if done to an excess can causes them to swallow a lot of air leading to
health problems. The horse people put Tabasco sauce on the edges of the
rails and buckets to keep the horses from doing this.

I wouldn't use Tabasco with a dog, but there is probably something safe sold
for that purpose.

RCE

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:53:20 GMT, Don White wrote:

RCE wrote:
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:07:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

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I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.




I am sitting here at my desk - a nice desk. It's oval in shape and has a
leather top with drawers and compartments all over the place for my stuff.
Mrs.E found it in a very unusual furniture shop.

Since Sam Adams joined the family 10 months ago the bottom of the desk has
acquired lots of teeth marks and chew damage. I've repaired it once by
sanding and staining, but the damage is done.

But, the way I look at it, ... 20 years from now (if I am still around) I
am going to look at the bottom of the damaged desk and will recall, with
fond, happy memories, the unique creature that he is, Samuel Adams. The
furniture can be repaired or replaced. The unique personality of a living
creature, even a lowly dog, cannot.



RCE


Wonder if you could splash something on the legs that would deter the
dog but not harm the wood finish?

Been there, done that. It takes about two days for the dog to start
*liking* the crap - bitter apple, et al.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:56:53 GMT, Don White wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:21:20 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:07:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

wrote:



I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.



I am sitting here at my desk - a nice desk. It's oval in shape and has a
leather top with drawers and compartments all over the place for my stuff.
Mrs.E found it in a very unusual furniture shop.

Since Sam Adams joined the family 10 months ago the bottom of the desk has
acquired lots of teeth marks and chew damage. I've repaired it once by
sanding and staining, but the damage is done.

But, the way I look at it, ... 20 years from now (if I am still around) I
am going to look at the bottom of the damaged desk and will recall, with
fond, happy memories, the unique creature that he is, Samuel Adams. The
furniture can be repaired or replaced. The unique personality of a living
creature, even a lowly dog, cannot.



RCE



Understandable. I feel the same way about Buffy, my lab, who, BTW, is going
to the vet this afternoon. The tumor is looking worse every day. I'm afraid
the time is coming very soon to have her put to sleep.

The bulldog has gone through the legs and several cushions of the family
room furniture, chewed the corners off an oak coffee table, chewed the
corners off all the low window sills in the kitchen and family room, and
has now started on the new furniture. If it were an only dog that they'd
had for a while, I could understand it better. They've got another dog, two
cats, and two (soon to be three) kids under four years old. Perhaps the dog
just needs the attention someone like you or I could provide. As it is, the
dog spends most of its life in a cage. I don't like it, but it's their dog.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Can they throw a 2 x 4 in the cage with it?
preferably a wood that doesn't splinter.

Not wood! They discovered, yesterday, that the dog loves rawhide, so
they're using that. But, I know I've read somewhere that rawhide is not a
good things for dogs to chew. Something about it not going well with their
digestive system.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:04:49 -0500, RCE wrote:


If you don't understand, you never will, either. Here, the dogs are far
more valuable than the furniture.

Nothing wrong with not liking dogs, but you are missing out on a very
special commitment of friendship.

And the joy. My folks, both in their mid-eighties, have a dog. I've
noticed their house is a far happier place with the dog, than without it.

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But, I know I've read somewhere that rawhide is not a
good things for dogs to chew. Something about it not going well with their
digestive system.
--
'Til next time,

John H


I'd ask Sam but he's snoring at the moment.

RCE

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The problem is that you have to connect the discipline with the
activity - just like a two year old. He's used to getting a reward
for coming in, but at the same time, it's not connected to the
unwanted barking activity. In his mind, he barks, you holler, he
gets
to come in and chow down. It's much to complicated for him to
understand at this point. Later on, he might make the connection,
but
not at this age.

You have to be with him to get him to stop or use a mechanical
device.
Not to be difficult, but I've tried. I have spent an hour at a time
with him out there several times. If I am with him, he doesn't bark
because he's too busy trying to get me to play. (which he is mostly
successful at).

I went down to the PetMart or whatever it is this morning and found a
spray collar. It was in a locked case so the store manager was called
to open it. As he handed it to me he asked what kind of dog I had. I
told him he was a 10 and a half month old, 94lb Lab. The guy laughed
at me and took the spray collar package back. He said it wouldn't
faze him at all. So, I asked what he recommended and he produced a
collar that looks like it came from the dark caverns of the
Inquisition. It's a shock type with two metal prongs and an
adjustable shock level.

Couldn't do it. Handed it back to him and said thanks, anyway.

RCE

I think it was Gary Larson (Far Side) who once did a cartoon about
labs. 4 frames showing various dog moods. Happy, sad, bored, sad. In
all four, the lab is sorta smiling with its tongue hanging out, and
drooling.
Great cartoon, but it was about the only dog dumber than a lab, an Irish
Setter, the blond of the dog world.

--
Reggie

I think that's what my neighbor had. When the wind blew, the dog's skull
made a sound like a conch shell.
Yes, but the dog always had a smile on his face.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

No, absolutely dumbest dog. . . Afghan.