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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?
My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes at a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE

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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?
My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes at a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE


My daughter used a shock collar on their new bulldog. They used it to keep
it from jumping on visitors, and it worked well. I don't see how it could
be useful to keep a dog from barking only at certain times and places. I
would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for example.

The collar didn't help a bit when it came to the dog's chewing of
furniture!
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'Til next time,

John H

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The problem is that you have to connect the discipline with the
activity - just like a two year old. He's used to getting a reward
for coming in, but at the same time, it's not connected to the
unwanted barking activity. In his mind, he barks, you holler, he gets
to come in and chow down. It's much to complicated for him to
understand at this point. Later on, he might make the connection, but
not at this age.

You have to be with him to get him to stop or use a mechanical device.

Not to be difficult, but I've tried. I have spent an hour at a time with
him out there several times. If I am with him, he doesn't bark because
he's too busy trying to get me to play. (which he is mostly successful
at).

I went down to the PetMart or whatever it is this morning and found a
spray collar. It was in a locked case so the store manager was called to
open it. As he handed it to me he asked what kind of dog I had. I told him
he was a 10 and a half month old, 94lb Lab. The guy laughed at me and
took the spray collar package back. He said it wouldn't faze him at all.
So, I asked what he recommended and he produced a collar that looks like
it came from the dark caverns of the Inquisition. It's a shock type with
two metal prongs and an adjustable shock level.

Couldn't do it. Handed it back to him and said thanks, anyway.

RCE


I think it was Gary Larson (Far Side) who once did a cartoon about labs. 4
frames showing various dog moods. Happy, sad, bored, sad. In all four, the
lab is sorta smiling with its tongue hanging out, and drooling.

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I would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for
example.


John H


Anybody that ventures into our yard better watch out. Sam will lick you to
death.

RCE

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?
My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes at
a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE


My daughter used a shock collar on their new bulldog. They used it to keep
it from jumping on visitors, and it worked well. I don't see how it could
be useful to keep a dog from barking only at certain times and places. I
would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for
example.

The collar didn't help a bit when it came to the dog's chewing of
furniture!

I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own crappy
furniture.

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:29:35 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?
My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes at
a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE


My daughter used a shock collar on their new bulldog. They used it to keep
it from jumping on visitors, and it worked well. I don't see how it could
be useful to keep a dog from barking only at certain times and places. I
would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for
example.

The collar didn't help a bit when it came to the dog's chewing of
furniture!

I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.

No sympathy coming from dad on this one. This is their second dog, cost
almost $1000, and was an impulse buy by the SIL. My advice was to take it
to the local animal shelter or to a 'friends of bulldogs' group. But, they
don't want to give it up.
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'Til next time,

John H

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?
My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes
at
a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are
super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack
in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE


My daughter used a shock collar on their new bulldog. They used it to
keep
it from jumping on visitors, and it worked well. I don't see how it
could
be useful to keep a dog from barking only at certain times and places. I
would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for
example.

The collar didn't help a bit when it came to the dog's chewing of
furniture!

I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.

No sympathy coming from dad on this one. This is their second dog, cost
almost $1000, and was an impulse buy by the SIL. My advice was to take it
to the local animal shelter or to a 'friends of bulldogs' group. But, they
don't want to give it up.
--
'Til next time,

John H

I'm guessing Ethan Allen and Stickley have dog breeding operations all
around the country.

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I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy furniture.


If you don't understand, you never will, either. Here, the dogs are far
more valuable than the furniture.

Nothing wrong with not liking dogs, but you are missing out on a very
special commitment of friendship.

RCE

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 13:29:35 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Don White" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

Do you ever use shock collars, like those I see in hunting catalogs?
My sister bought one of those for her Corgi.
That dumb dog was so stubborn, he'd bark anyway. Reminded me of that
'Simpsons' episode where the whole family was hooked up to electrodes
at
a
research clinic and kept shocking each other.


The store manager at the PetMart also told me that although Labs are
super
people friendly and affectionate, they aren't exactly the sharpest tack
in
the drawer, as dogs go.

I like him though. He's just a big goofus.

RCE


My daughter used a shock collar on their new bulldog. They used it to
keep
it from jumping on visitors, and it worked well. I don't see how it
could
be useful to keep a dog from barking only at certain times and places. I
would want the dog to bark if someone were walking in my yard, for
example.

The collar didn't help a bit when it came to the dog's chewing of
furniture!

I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.

No sympathy coming from dad on this one. This is their second dog, cost
almost $1000, and was an impulse buy by the SIL. My advice was to take it
to the local animal shelter or to a 'friends of bulldogs' group. But, they
don't want to give it up.
--
'Til next time,

John H

I'm guessing Ethan Allen and Stickley have dog breeding operations all
around the country.


LOL!
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'Til next time,

John H

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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 19:07:06 GMT, "Doug Kanter"

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I can't imagine how anyone even entertains the idea of having a dog, if
there's a chance of it ruining nice furniture. Maybe it helps to own
crappy
furniture.


Totally agree. The original furniture was old. They just bought some new
stuff. It took the dog all of about two days to get a moment when it
wasn't
being watched to chew up a leg on the couch.



I am sitting here at my desk - a nice desk. It's oval in shape and has a
leather top with drawers and compartments all over the place for my stuff.
Mrs.E found it in a very unusual furniture shop.

Since Sam Adams joined the family 10 months ago the bottom of the desk has
acquired lots of teeth marks and chew damage. I've repaired it once by
sanding and staining, but the damage is done.

But, the way I look at it, ... 20 years from now (if I am still around) I
am going to look at the bottom of the damaged desk and will recall, with
fond, happy memories, the unique creature that he is, Samuel Adams. The
furniture can be repaired or replaced. The unique personality of a living
creature, even a lowly dog, cannot.



RCE