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Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was
responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper |
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 08:16:16 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it... No doubt about it, and no need to guess...you're the Queen of Trolls, but you're dragging old bait. Try something new and clever, Snipper. Harry, thank you for deleting the troll which caught you. -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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![]() Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper A picture is worth a thousand distortions: http://www.sequoiayacht.com/index.cf...t=56&GalMenu=3 Jimmy Carter managed to unload a 50-year old (back then) wooden boat (!) and relieved the taxpayers of the increasing burden. The Sequioa is still considered a "Presidential" yacht, and has been used to for a number of Presidential and Executive Branch functions over the years. The current Bush (currant bush?..just kidding) has had the Dept of Homeland Security and other agencies aboard Sequioa. While the boat is available for charter, the President and Vice President have the right to comandeer the use of the boat for personal or governmental use at any time. One of the challenges with a "Presidential Yacht" is that its age, use, and condition all imply a lot of things about the presidency and the US. How does any president expect to impress the Sultan of Brunei or a member of the House of Saud by entertaining them on a boat that is 25% the size of their own "official" yachts and hasn't been updated for 75 years? |
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Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper A picture is worth a thousand distortions: http://www.sequoiayacht.com/index.cf...t=56&GalMenu=3 Jimmy Carter managed to unload a 50-year old (back then) wooden boat (!) and relieved the taxpayers of the increasing burden. The Sequioa is still considered a "Presidential" yacht, and has been used to for a number of Presidential and Executive Branch functions over the years. The current Bush (currant bush?..just kidding) has had the Dept of Homeland Security and other agencies aboard Sequioa. While the boat is available for charter, the President and Vice President have the right to comandeer the use of the boat for personal or governmental use at any time. One of the challenges with a "Presidential Yacht" is that its age, use, and condition all imply a lot of things about the presidency and the US. How does any president expect to impress the Sultan of Brunei or a member of the House of Saud by entertaining them on a boat that is 25% the size of their own "official" yachts and hasn't been updated for 75 years? I had a Dinner Meeting on the Sequoia around 1980/81. They kept the boat in Ft. Lauderdale, and you could charter the boat for a evening dinner cruise. They would take the boat around Biscayne Bay, and cruise down the inter-coastal so you could see the homes you will never be able to afford. They had a decent chief, great service a beautiful boat and it was an enjoyable evening, but it was not up to the standard for a Presidential Yacht. The current "Presidential Yacht" is Air Force One, and that is state of art luxury. It had been completely restored (at what you could pay for a new boat)but they were not able to make money in Ft. Lauderdale. If I am not mistaken they then tried NYC and Phili. without making a profit. I think it was then sold to the current owner who moved it to DC. -- Reggie ************************************************** ************* That's my story and I am sticking to it. ************************************************** ************* |
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![]() Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper A picture is worth a thousand distortions: http://www.sequoiayacht.com/index.cf...t=56&GalMenu=3 Jimmy Carter managed to unload a 50-year old (back then) wooden boat (!) and relieved the taxpayers of the increasing burden. The Sequioa is still considered a "Presidential" yacht, and has been used to for a number of Presidential and Executive Branch functions over the years. The current Bush (currant bush?..just kidding) has had the Dept of Homeland Security and other agencies aboard Sequioa. While the boat is available for charter, the President and Vice President have the right to comandeer the use of the boat for personal or governmental use at any time. One of the challenges with a "Presidential Yacht" is that its age, use, and condition all imply a lot of things about the presidency and the US. How does any president expect to impress the Sultan of Brunei or a member of the House of Saud by entertaining them on a boat that is 25% the size of their own "official" yachts and hasn't been updated for 75 years? The boat rents for about $10,000 for a half-day. Skipper is just on another of his quests to "trash" Jimmy Carter. If you engage him, you're just playing his game. The only thing to do with Skipper is slam him to the mat or ignore him. $10,000 for half a day? That's not all that bad. I'll bet the old gal is booked pretty steadily, especially back near DC. Some political action group or another wants to impress big bucks donors from the midwest? Invite them out for lunch on the "Presidential Yacht" and those 6-figure checks would simply start fluttering out of purses and wallets. A bit pricey for personal use, but corporations regularly pay that much or more for perks that are a lot less impressive. I've seen it out the Po-to-Mac a few times. I'm not impressed with it; it is what it is: an old, outdated, narrow wood pleasure yacht. I suppose those who are impressed with "trappings" would think it "cool." It's too easy a target for the POTUS to ride around in, though. Good point. We could easily be reading about one of our presidents, brain damaged or not, torpedoed while *aboard* the Sequoia. Can you image the security that would have to be in place to put the POTUS out for a cruise on that thing? Probably a submarine shadowing the boat below the surface, a copter or two hovering overhead, the entire crew would need to be Secret Service, and probably escorted by a couple of RIBS with 50-calibers mounted over their bows. Doesn't sound like much fun to me...no wonder the presidents seldom go boating. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
wrote: Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper A picture is worth a thousand distortions: http://www.sequoiayacht.com/index.cf...t=56&GalMenu=3 Jimmy Carter managed to unload a 50-year old (back then) wooden boat (!) and relieved the taxpayers of the increasing burden. The Sequioa is still considered a "Presidential" yacht, and has been used to for a number of Presidential and Executive Branch functions over the years. The current Bush (currant bush?..just kidding) has had the Dept of Homeland Security and other agencies aboard Sequioa. While the boat is available for charter, the President and Vice President have the right to comandeer the use of the boat for personal or governmental use at any time. One of the challenges with a "Presidential Yacht" is that its age, use, and condition all imply a lot of things about the presidency and the US. How does any president expect to impress the Sultan of Brunei or a member of the House of Saud by entertaining them on a boat that is 25% the size of their own "official" yachts and hasn't been updated for 75 years? The boat rents for about $10,000 for a half-day. Skipper is just on another of his quests to "trash" Jimmy Carter. If you engage him, you're just playing his game. The only thing to do with Skipper is slam him to the mat or ignore him. J.C. for all his faults gave Americans at least one great gift -- he legitimized LUST "I have lusted in my heart" |
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![]() "Jim," wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper A picture is worth a thousand distortions: http://www.sequoiayacht.com/index.cf...t=56&GalMenu=3 Jimmy Carter managed to unload a 50-year old (back then) wooden boat (!) and relieved the taxpayers of the increasing burden. The Sequioa is still considered a "Presidential" yacht, and has been used to for a number of Presidential and Executive Branch functions over the years. The current Bush (currant bush?..just kidding) has had the Dept of Homeland Security and other agencies aboard Sequioa. While the boat is available for charter, the President and Vice President have the right to comandeer the use of the boat for personal or governmental use at any time. One of the challenges with a "Presidential Yacht" is that its age, use, and condition all imply a lot of things about the presidency and the US. How does any president expect to impress the Sultan of Brunei or a member of the House of Saud by entertaining them on a boat that is 25% the size of their own "official" yachts and hasn't been updated for 75 years? The boat rents for about $10,000 for a half-day. Skipper is just on another of his quests to "trash" Jimmy Carter. If you engage him, you're just playing his game. The only thing to do with Skipper is slam him to the mat or ignore him. J.C. for all his faults gave Americans at least one great gift -- he legitimized LUST "I have lusted in my heart" He's still trying to give us gifts. Trouble is, hardly anyone's paying attention. They've been told to stay busy worrying about 9/11. |
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Reggie Smithers wrote:
I had a Dinner Meeting on the Sequoia around 1980/81... The current "Presidential Yacht" is Air Force One, and that is state of art luxury. I've been on several AF1s many times over the years, gotta tell you, the Sequoia holds far more meaning and history for me. Carter consistently screws the pooch to this day and did then. If the Sequoia had to be retired, it should have been to the Smithsonian and public access given. Carter is a braindamaged hick continually embarrassing this country. He hasn't done anything Right. -- Skipper |
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On 10 Feb 2006 09:40:19 -0800, wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Harry Krause wrote: wrote: Skipper wrote: Yep, you guessed it, that braindamaged POS, Jimmy Carter, was responsible for torpedoing America's Presidential yacht, Sequoia in 1977. Jimmy dumped on many traditional American values during his rein of terror; we lost a canal, a great national defense, and Middle East influence while gaining stagflation and ever increasing taxation under Carter. Yep, we owe a lot to the Dems. http://tinyurl.com/3tjsz -- Skipper A picture is worth a thousand distortions: http://www.sequoiayacht.com/index.cf...t=56&GalMenu=3 Jimmy Carter managed to unload a 50-year old (back then) wooden boat (!) and relieved the taxpayers of the increasing burden. The Sequioa is still considered a "Presidential" yacht, and has been used to for a number of Presidential and Executive Branch functions over the years. The current Bush (currant bush?..just kidding) has had the Dept of Homeland Security and other agencies aboard Sequioa. While the boat is available for charter, the President and Vice President have the right to comandeer the use of the boat for personal or governmental use at any time. One of the challenges with a "Presidential Yacht" is that its age, use, and condition all imply a lot of things about the presidency and the US. How does any president expect to impress the Sultan of Brunei or a member of the House of Saud by entertaining them on a boat that is 25% the size of their own "official" yachts and hasn't been updated for 75 years? The boat rents for about $10,000 for a half-day. Skipper is just on another of his quests to "trash" Jimmy Carter. If you engage him, you're just playing his game. The only thing to do with Skipper is slam him to the mat or ignore him. $10,000 for half a day? That's not all that bad. I'll bet the old gal is booked pretty steadily, especially back near DC. Some political action group or another wants to impress big bucks donors from the midwest? Invite them out for lunch on the "Presidential Yacht" and those 6-figure checks would simply start fluttering out of purses and wallets. A bit pricey for personal use, but corporations regularly pay that much or more for perks that are a lot less impressive. I've seen it out the Po-to-Mac a few times. I'm not impressed with it; it is what it is: an old, outdated, narrow wood pleasure yacht. I suppose those who are impressed with "trappings" would think it "cool." It's too easy a target for the POTUS to ride around in, though. Good point. We could easily be reading about one of our presidents, brain damaged or not, torpedoed while *aboard* the Sequoia. Can you image the security that would have to be in place to put the POTUS out for a cruise on that thing? Probably a submarine shadowing the boat below the surface, a copter or two hovering overhead, the entire crew would need to be Secret Service, and probably escorted by a couple of RIBS with 50-calibers mounted over their bows. Doesn't sound like much fun to me...no wonder the presidents seldom go boating. The sub would have to remain on the surface, unless it's one of those little one-man jobs. Finding even 30' of water in the upper Potomac, north of the 301 bridge, would be damn difficult! -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |