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Don White February 8th 06 09:40 PM

HDTV set up
 
Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 - 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have
the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving
the HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.

JimH February 8th 06 09:48 PM

HDTV set up
 

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 -
610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have the
black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving the
HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.


Congratulations Don. What sort of programs are on the 9 HDTV stations?



RCE February 8th 06 10:00 PM

HDTV set up
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:

Congratulations Don. What sort of programs are on the 9 HDTV stations?




Nine channels of curling, 24-7, of course.



Wet keyboard.
LOL

RCE



JimH February 8th 06 10:11 PM

HDTV set up
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 -
610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have
the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving
the HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.


Congratulations Don. What sort of programs are on the 9 HDTV stations?




Nine channels of curling, 24-7, of course.


LMAO!

You have to put hockey games in there somewhere.

Anyway............

Don, when is Canada going 100% digital? The US is mandating it (I think) by
2009.




Don White February 8th 06 11:42 PM

HDTV set up
 
JimH wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...

Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 -
610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have the
black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving the
HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.



Congratulations Don. What sort of programs are on the 9 HDTV stations?


So far it appears to regular programing on a different time schedule...
maybe EST or CST vs AST. Wife came home and watched DR. Phil on one of
the channels.
I was watching the Slavery show on PBS Detroit before she came.
I seem to have ABC, NBC CBS, CBC, CTV, PBS and three others.
At 5pm wife made me switch to MASH on a regular channel.
Our salesman said a lot of the prime time programming is HD... but I
don't know if he meant on the regular channels..or just the nine
mentioned above.
The new DVR cable box will be interesting. Some of the buttons I
previously used for the 'info' program now control the recording harddrive.
Good thing I'm retired.

Don White February 8th 06 11:43 PM

HDTV set up
 
Harry Krause wrote:
JimH wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up
at 1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602
- 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels
have the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go
to full screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have
the set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and
an optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble
moving the HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the
salesman suggested.



Congratulations Don. What sort of programs are on the 9 HDTV stations?




Nine channels of curling, 24-7, of course.

If it was hockey..it wouldn't be so bad!
(better watch what I wish for)

Don White February 8th 06 11:46 PM

HDTV set up
 
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...

Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 -
610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have
the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving
the HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.

Congratulations Don. What sort of programs are on the 9 HDTV stations?




Nine channels of curling, 24-7, of course.



LMAO!

You have to put hockey games in there somewhere.

Anyway............

Don, when is Canada going 100% digital? The US is mandating it (I think) by
2009.



We always follow you guys. Haven't heard of a firm date lately

Skipper February 9th 06 12:29 AM

HDTV set up
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels
have the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go
to full screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have
the set programmed for maxium clarity.


My SONY HDTV has the same sized screen display on regular or HDTV
cablecasts, so I am guessing you have a setting set wrong.


Nope, as usual, YOU are wrong.


HD broadcasts have an aspect ratio of 16:9. Regular broadcasts are in 4:3
AR. If your regular programming fills the screen of an HD display, either
everyone looks fat or you're cutting off significant parts of the top and
bottom of the picture.


Fred:


There's nothing, I repeat, nothing you post here that I believe or care
about.


And you're wrong. But I'm not going to expend any effort to "prove" it.


Fred was correct but failed to mention the solution you have on your
TV...and know nothing about. If you want the most normal looking picture
for the 4:3 without sidebars, the best setting option is to stretch
*only* the ends of the picture and leave the center normal. So, as Fred
stated, your options for 4:3 are stretch mode, regular mode, or
*modified stretch*.

As always, it's a pleasure correcting your poor advice, Krause.

--
Skipper

Skipper February 9th 06 02:04 AM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:

As always, it's a pleasure correcting your poor advice, Krause.


Since neither of you rectal fissures has any idea of the capabilities or
settings of my television, I suggest you spend your time diddling each
other.


And while we're on the subject of diddling, what price do you think the
west will ultimately pay for supporting Israel's landgrabs and abuse of
Arabs? Not a small hurt, eh?

--
Skipper

JohnH February 9th 06 02:08 AM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:40:15 GMT, Don White wrote:

Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 - 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have
the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving
the HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.


When a signal is broadcast in HD, the normal setting will fill the screen
nicely. When looking at regular broadcast, you'll have to live with the
lines on the sides, a 'stretched' mode, or a zoomed mode. (At least that's
the way mine is.) This is true for all channels, except the HD channels
when the broadcast is in HD. I first thought there was something wrong with
my TV also, but there wasn't. I've learned to live with fat faces, or
having the heads cut off a little and the display reduced on the bottom.

I use the component cables for the cable box and for the dvd player.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH February 9th 06 02:10 AM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:09:48 GMT, Fred Dehl wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in
:

Don White wrote:
Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up
at 1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602
- 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels
have the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go
to full screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have
the
set programmed for maxium clarity.



My SONY HDTV has the same sized screen display on regular or HDTV
cablecasts, so I am guessing you have a setting set wrong.


Nope, as usual, YOU are wrong.

HD broadcasts have an aspect ratio of 16:9. Regular broadcasts are in 4:3
AR. If your regular programming fills the screen of an HD display, either
everyone looks fat or you're cutting off significant parts of the top and
bottom of the picture.


That's correct, at least on my TV with Cox, except when an HD program is
being broadcast on an HD channel. Then the 'normal' zoom fills the 16:9
screen.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Don White February 9th 06 04:24 AM

HDTV set up
 
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:40:15 GMT, Don White wrote:


Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up at
1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602 - 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels have
the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go to full
screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.
The cable guy gave me a HDMI cable to run between the box and tv and an
optical audio cable for DVR cable box/home theater system.
Now when I get my new DVD player I may use component cables for that.
The TV only has one HDMI input and it would be too much trouble moving
the HDMI cable between the DVR box and the DVD player as the salesman
suggested.



When a signal is broadcast in HD, the normal setting will fill the screen
nicely. When looking at regular broadcast, you'll have to live with the
lines on the sides, a 'stretched' mode, or a zoomed mode. (At least that's
the way mine is.) This is true for all channels, except the HD channels
when the broadcast is in HD. I first thought there was something wrong with
my TV also, but there wasn't. I've learned to live with fat faces, or
having the heads cut off a little and the display reduced on the bottom.

I use the component cables for the cable box and for the dvd player.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Caught the program 'R Steves Europe travels' on PBS HD
http://www.ricksteves.com/tvr/parisrse306_descr.htm
Scenery was breathtaking...really felt like you were there.
That's what I was hoping for in my new TV

Skipper February 9th 06 07:52 AM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Since neither of you rectal fissures has any idea of the capabilities or
settings of my television, I suggest you spend your time diddling each
other.


And while we're on the subject of diddling, what price do you think the
west will ultimately pay for supporting Israel's landgrabs and abuse of
Arabs? Not a small hurt, eh?


I'll write to Hamas and suggest it set up a Derby, Kansas, chapter. You
can be the Grand Pubah.


Yes, go ahead and write Hamas, Krause. Make sure you address the
envelope properly. Believe they prefer street address to P.O. Box
numbers. And, oh yes, a few facts for you, Krause:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).

1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.

1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.

1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.

Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.

--
Skipper

Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 12:03 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Since neither of you rectal fissures has any idea of the capabilities or
settings of my television, I suggest you spend your time diddling each
other.


And while we're on the subject of diddling, what price do you think the
west will ultimately pay for supporting Israel's landgrabs and abuse of
Arabs? Not a small hurt, eh?


I'll write to Hamas and suggest it set up a Derby, Kansas, chapter. You
can be the Grand Pubah.


Yes, go ahead and write Hamas, Krause. Make sure you address the
envelope properly. Believe they prefer street address to P.O. Box
numbers. And, oh yes, a few facts for you, Krause:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).

1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.

1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.

1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.

Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.

--
Skipper

Skipper,
I thought you wanted to stay away from political arguments and fights,
and keep this a boating NG?

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Wayne.B February 9th 06 12:19 PM

World Class Diddling
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 01:52:26 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.


Wrong group, take it offline.


Skipper February 9th 06 12:29 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Reggie Smithers wrote:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).


1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.


1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.


1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.


Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.


Skipper,
I thought you wanted to stay away from political arguments


Nothing argumentative, just facts:

The Sykes-Picot Agreement - 1916:

It is accordingly understood between the french and British governments:
That France and great Britain are prepared to recognize and protect an
independent ***Arab*** states or a confederation of ***Arab*** states
(a) and (b) marked on the annexed map, ***under the suzerainty of an
Arab chief***. That in area (a) France, and in area (b) great Britain,
shall have priority of right of enterprise and local loans. That in area
(a) France, and in area (b) great Britain, shall alone supply advisers
or foreign functionaries at the request of the ***Arab*** state or
confederation of Arab states.

--

And for those of us who saw the movie Lawrence of Arabia, let's not
forget how the west screwed the Arabs by implementing a mandate system
in ***their*** lands.

Is it any wonder the Arabs are upset?

--
Skipper

[email protected] February 9th 06 12:49 PM

HDTV set up
 

Fred Dehl wrote:
Harry Krause wrote in
:

Fred Dehl wrote:
Harry Krause wrote in
:

Don White wrote:
Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up
at 1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range
602 - 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining
channels. One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels
have the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I
go to full screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I
have the
set programmed for maxium clarity.

My SONY HDTV has the same sized screen display on regular or HDTV
cablecasts, so I am guessing you have a setting set wrong.

Nope, as usual, YOU are wrong.

HD broadcasts have an aspect ratio of 16:9. Regular broadcasts are
in 4:3 AR. If your regular programming fills the screen of an HD
display, either everyone looks fat or you're cutting off significant
parts of the top and bottom of the picture.



Fred:

There's nothing, I repeat, nothing you post here that I believe or
care about.


Good.

And you're wrong.


You don't even know what a ****ing aspect ratio IS, dickwash.

But I'm not going to expend any effort to "prove"
it.


Because you CAN'T, pussy.


The above inflammatory blather does absolutely nothing for your
credibility.


JohnH February 9th 06 12:58 PM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 21:17:35 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:09:48 GMT, Fred Dehl wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in
:

Don White wrote:
Finally, the tv was delivered yesterday and the cable guy showed up
at 1500 today to do his thing.
Here we only have 9 real HDTV stations in the high channel range 602
- 610.

Tv is beautiful on those and a bit less so on the remaining channels.
One tricky thing is choosing the correct 'screen mode'.
I set it up so the HDTV fills the screen, but the normal channels
have the black bars on each side. They just don't look right if I go
to full screen or zoom or wide zoom.
I have to get the Sony salesman out to the house to make sure I have
the
set programmed for maxium clarity.

My SONY HDTV has the same sized screen display on regular or HDTV
cablecasts, so I am guessing you have a setting set wrong.
Nope, as usual, YOU are wrong.

HD broadcasts have an aspect ratio of 16:9. Regular broadcasts are in 4:3
AR. If your regular programming fills the screen of an HD display, either
everyone looks fat or you're cutting off significant parts of the top and
bottom of the picture.


That's correct, at least on my TV with Cox, except when an HD program is
being broadcast on an HD channel. Then the 'normal' zoom fills the 16:9
screen.
--
'Til next time,

John H



I suggest you read that thick manual closely, and experiment with some
of hte settings.


If you'll read my response to Don, you'll see I've been there and done
that.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Skipper February 9th 06 12:59 PM

World Class Diddling
 

--
Skipper

Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 12:59 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Skipper wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).


1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.


1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.


1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.


Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.


Skipper,
I thought you wanted to stay away from political arguments


Nothing argumentative, just facts:

The Sykes-Picot Agreement - 1916:

It is accordingly understood between the french and British governments:
That France and great Britain are prepared to recognize and protect an
independent ***Arab*** states or a confederation of ***Arab*** states
(a) and (b) marked on the annexed map, ***under the suzerainty of an
Arab chief***. That in area (a) France, and in area (b) great Britain,
shall have priority of right of enterprise and local loans. That in area
(a) France, and in area (b) great Britain, shall alone supply advisers
or foreign functionaries at the request of the ***Arab*** state or
confederation of Arab states.

--

And for those of us who saw the movie Lawrence of Arabia, let's not
forget how the west screwed the Arabs by implementing a mandate system
in ***their*** lands.

Is it any wonder the Arabs are upset?

--
Skipper

Skipper,
It appears your motivation for posting is to troll for fights, this is
not conducive to your stated desire for a boating NG, but also
diminishes the value of any of your boating related posts for any new
members to rec.boats. You are proving Harry correct, when he said you
had no desire for a boating NG.



--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Skipper February 9th 06 01:05 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).


1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.


1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.


1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.


Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.


Snipper can't control his hatred of Jews.


Skipper is objective, he lets you spew the vindictive misinformation.
And while we're on the subject of your misinformation, do you think the
Jewish controlled press has served us well? Are they too biased toward
the Israeli position?

--
Skipper

JohnH February 9th 06 01:15 PM

World Class Diddling
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:59:17 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:


Skipper has found he can throw some rotten bait in the water and get the
same fish every time.

There are many groups out there which are empty, such as a.politics. They
won't use another group, and there can be only one reason for it - a desire
to f*** up this one.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 01:16 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Skipper wrote:


So, why are you responding to the Jew-hater, "Reggie?"

Harry,
I think you might be correct. Why don't we both agree not to respond to
any of Skippers OT or racists / anti-semitic comments.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Skipper February 9th 06 01:21 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).


1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.


1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.


1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.


Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.


Snipper can't control his hatred of Jews.


Skipper is objective, he lets you spew the vindictive misinformation.


Sorry, Snipper, but other than to point out your hatred of Jews, I'll
not be engaging you in dialog relating to your virulent anti-Semitism.
Save it for your local Hitler Youth leadership meetings.


When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have the
law on your side, argue the law. When you have neither, holler
anti-Semite.

--
Skipper

JimH February 9th 06 01:28 PM

World Class Diddling
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:59:17 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:


Skipper has found he can throw some rotten bait in the water and get the
same fish every time.

There are many groups out there which are empty, such as a.politics. They
won't use another group, and there can be only one reason for it - a
desire
to f*** up this one.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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Why are you again blaming others for Skippy's terrible behavior here John?

Skippy has managed to insult just about every member of this NG. He is not
welcome here. Please stop facilitating his behavior and start ignoring him.




Skipper February 9th 06 01:39 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:

I think you might be correct. Why don't we both agree not to respond to
any of Skippers OT or racists / anti-semitic comments.


I merely point out when he does it. I won't lower myself to debate his
anti-Semitic points. But I think it important to point out his kind of
crap, so that fair-minded people realize what he really is.


When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have the
law on your side, argue the law. When you have neither, holler
anti-Semite.

--
Skipper

Skipper February 9th 06 01:51 PM

World Class Diddling
 
Harry Krause wrote:

1916 - Sykes-Picot Agreement establishes Labanon, Syria, & Palestine
from old Ottoman Empire (French-British mandate).


1923 - Jewish terrorists force Britian into unilaterally splitting
Palestine into Palestine & Trans-Jordan.


1947 - Jewish terrorists force UN into further partitioning of Palestine
into Arab and Jew sections.


1948 - Hagana (IDF) unilaterally establishes state of Israel. US Jews
lobby government (Democrats) to support this takeover. US is first to
recognize new "state" of Israel.


Now, your position has been that there are no "real Palestinians, only
Arabs." You are factually incorrect. Your belief that there are no
Palestinians is, at best, wishful thinking on your part. There have, in
fact, been massive landgrabs and human rights abuses in Palestine. No
way the west can win in the end. Is it really worth the endless deaths?
Time to cut US losses.


Sorry, Snipper, but other than to point out your hatred of Jews, I'll
not be engaging you in dialog relating to your virulent anti-Semitism.
Save it for your local Hitler Youth leadership meetings.


When you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. When you have the
law on your side, argue the law. When you have neither, holler
anti-Semite.


Vielen Dank, Dr. Totenkopf.


We really need to add the Israeli initiated 1967 six-day war to the list
above. Can't say I blame you for running when presented with phacts 'n
data.

--
Skipper

JohnH February 9th 06 02:44 PM

World Class Diddling
 
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:28:35 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 07:59:17 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:


Skipper has found he can throw some rotten bait in the water and get the
same fish every time.

There are many groups out there which are empty, such as a.politics. They
won't use another group, and there can be only one reason for it - a
desire
to f*** up this one.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Why are you again blaming others for Skippy's terrible behavior here John?

Skippy has managed to insult just about every member of this NG. He is not
welcome here. Please stop facilitating his behavior and start ignoring him.



Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that crap
belongs here.

If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more sense.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Reggie Smithers February 9th 06 04:32 PM

World Class Diddling
 
JohnH wrote:

Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that crap
belongs here.

If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more sense.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH,
Thanks for the friendly reminder. I think I tossed the lure on my last
jump.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Skipper February 9th 06 04:41 PM

World Class Diddling
 
JohnH wrote:

Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that crap
belongs here.


If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more sense.


Sense? Did you say sense? That sorta reminds me of another East Coast
crap story. Boston, yeah, Boston, that's where it was. Actually, Harvard
in Cambridge to be more precise. Was browsing the Harvard Book Store one
evening when the Professor said, major developmental software cannot be
produced on a budget/schedule. I positioned otherwise. Well, next
morning we assembled the leadership team and everyone agreed the
Professor was right...but then, 12 hours later after we *detailed* every
task needed to complete the project, we had a master schedule AND
budget...critical paths 'n all. A few days later we had the schedule
tiered to four (4) levels.

So you see, sense can be a thing of perspective and understanding...even
for the PHDs.

--
Skipper

JohnH February 9th 06 04:57 PM

World Class Diddling
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:32:43 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that crap
belongs here.

If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more sense.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH,
Thanks for the friendly reminder. I think I tossed the lure on my last
jump.


We've both tried to have reasonable discussions with Skipper. Neither of us
have been successful. There's only one place for him, as I've yet to see
*anything* worthwhile from him.

It would be nice if a few others would do the same thing.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

George F February 9th 06 05:01 PM

HDTV set up
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

The above inflammatory blather does absolutely nothing for your
credibility.


Nor does it change the fact that he's right.



Wayne.B February 9th 06 06:31 PM

World Class Diddling
 
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:41:08 -0600, Skipper wrote:

So you see, sense can be a thing of perspective and understanding...even
for the PHDs.


Any fool can produce a schedule and budget, the trick is to deliver
completed software on time, fully debugged.

There are many who can talk the talk, very few who can walk the walk.




JimH February 9th 06 06:49 PM

World Class Diddling
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:32:43 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that
crap
belongs here.

If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more sense.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JohnH,
Thanks for the friendly reminder. I think I tossed the lure on my last
jump.


We've both tried to have reasonable discussions with Skipper. Neither of
us
have been successful. There's only one place for him, as I've yet to see
*anything* worthwhile from him.

It would be nice if a few others would do the same thing.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I have been telling you this all along. Glad to see you finally got it
John.



JohnH February 9th 06 06:56 PM

World Class Diddling
 
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:49:00 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:32:43 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that
crap
belongs here.

If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more sense.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
JohnH,
Thanks for the friendly reminder. I think I tossed the lure on my last
jump.


We've both tried to have reasonable discussions with Skipper. Neither of
us
have been successful. There's only one place for him, as I've yet to see
*anything* worthwhile from him.

It would be nice if a few others would do the same thing.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I have been telling you this all along. Glad to see you finally got it
John.


I should have followed your example of good behavior long ago!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

JimH February 9th 06 06:59 PM

World Class Diddling
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:49:00 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote:


"JohnH" wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 11:32:43 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote:

JohnH wrote:

Read carefully. Skipper, et al, troll. Others take bait. None of that
crap
belongs here.

If you will notice, *I* did not respond to Skippy, as I have more
sense.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************
JohnH,
Thanks for the friendly reminder. I think I tossed the lure on my last
jump.

We've both tried to have reasonable discussions with Skipper. Neither of
us
have been successful. There's only one place for him, as I've yet to see
*anything* worthwhile from him.

It would be nice if a few others would do the same thing.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


I have been telling you this all along. Glad to see you finally got it
John.


I should have followed your example of good behavior long ago!
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************


Yep.



Netsock February 9th 06 07:50 PM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:47:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


My SONY HDTV has the same sized screen display on regular or HDTV
cablecasts, so I am guessing you have a setting set wrong.


Sorry, wrong.

Different aspect ratios. IF you even have an HD unit (which I doubt)
it would be YOUR settings that are wrong.

This from a guy who doesn't know what a DVR is. Hmmm...sounds like
another one of his "My life is so great, and I'm better than you"
stories.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock February 9th 06 07:54 PM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:09:48 GMT, Fred Dehl
wrote:


Nope, as usual, YOU are wrong.

HD broadcasts have an aspect ratio of 16:9. Regular broadcasts are in 4:3
AR. If your regular programming fills the screen of an HD display, either
everyone looks fat or you're cutting off significant parts of the top and
bottom of the picture.


Absolutely correct.

Fred, this is just another one of his "Zimmerman, 65 knot Parker, GPS
to set trim, GPS with wrong time, long driveway, sat downlink, 3 year
old house, 20 year old wife, who has a double doctorate, I have an
iPod" lie...nothing more.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock February 9th 06 07:57 PM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 20:46:33 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:


Since neither of you rectal fissures has any idea of the capabilities or
settings of my television, I suggest you spend your time diddling each
other.


I *DO* know the settings of virtually all of modern SONY televisions,
and their capabilities.

And once again, you have been proven a liar.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

Netsock February 9th 06 08:25 PM

HDTV set up
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 22:13:16 GMT, Fred Dehl
wrote:


$100 for a 2-port HDMI switch with remote. Experiment with the picture
quality of component vs. HDMI out of the DVD player. My guess is you'll
order the switch.


Fred,

HDMI cables offer no increased video clarity or benefits up to 1080i
verses component cables...even from a progressive scan source (DVD
player).

Some sets offer more than 1080i resolution, but without a matching
source, the point is moot. Its like having a 6' satellite dish, to
lock a signal, that an 18" can do.

Now down the road, when HD increases over 1080i, and sources, such as
HD-DVD sets become available, then the added bandwidth of the HDMI
cables becomes usable.

I suppose if you were planning for the future, it would hurt anything
to start using HDMI cables, but don't look for any added
bandwidth/clarity/performance on the current standard HD/DVD
platform...at least over component cabling.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/


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