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"jps" wrote in message ... I'd rather see investment in alternative energy research than finding another way to wring out profits in a short-term, quarter to quarter profit strategy. jps Unfortunately, that's their job. The driver is the shareholders. The shareholders want a return - the bigger the better. The shareholders are people like you and me and millions of other easy money speculators. RCE |
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"jps" wrote in message ... That's a nice theory. However, as DSK pointed out, shareholders haven't been substantially rewarded for the climb in profits. jps Higher profits usually produce higher stock prices. Few public companies pay dividends anymore. It's all in the stock price. I am not saying it's right - I am just saying it's the way it is. A CEO that does not show bottom line growth ain't gonna be a CEO for long. And although publicly reported quarterly, most large companies now report monthly and even weekly, internally. That's why I don't work for one anymore. RCE |
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That's a nice theory.
However, as DSK pointed out, shareholders haven't been substantially rewarded for the climb in profits. RCE wrote: Higher profits usually produce higher stock prices. Few public companies pay dividends anymore. It's all in the stock price. Actually, that's not true. It was true that many investors... and many 'investment writers' widely published... back in the late 1990s were loudly disdainful of dividends. Nowadays investors are very definitely interested in dividends, and the stock-touters talk about them a lot. I am not saying it's right - I am just saying it's the way it is. Maybe we follow very different segments of the financial news media. ... A CEO that does not show bottom line growth ain't gonna be a CEO for long. Well, no. He pockets his $50 million and saunters off stage left, whistling a happy tune. And his platinum parachute is paid for by the employees & common stockholders. It's the new corporate kleptocracy... profits are irrelevant. .... And although publicly reported quarterly, most large companies now report monthly and even weekly, internally. That's why I don't work for one anymore. And the auditors have become paid consultants on how to cheat. Did you notice that Ken Lay and Jeff Skilling might actually have a court date? Good thing the Bush Administration is really cracking down on corporate malfeasance... how many years has it been now? But I digress.... I own several oil company stocks, and the neither dividends nor price appreciation has not followed reported profits... yet... Regards Doug King |
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"jps" wrote in message ... In article , says... Well, no. He pockets his $50 million and saunters off stage left, whistling a happy tune. And his platinum parachute is paid for by the employees & common stockholders. It's the new corporate kleptocracy... I love it. We're not experiencing fascism, we're the subjects of a kleptocracy. I can't decide whether to laugh or cry. jps You know what? None of this matters. For every proven crook running a company, I'll find you an honest, hard working example. It all depends on one's personnel perspective of the world and business. If you tend to be of the cynical bent, you are going to find conspiracy and deceit behind every door. If you're a glass half full type your going to gravitate towards the belief that the system can work, despite Herculean problems. I've always been more of the latter. Obviously others here are not. Makes the world go 'round. In my life there have been more people telling me I couldn't do something than those who encouraged me to try. I rarely listened to the first group. RCE |
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:09:41 -0500, DSK wrote:
I own several oil company stocks, and the neither dividends nor price appreciation has not followed reported profits... yet... Then you haven't owned them long enough. Oil will be king until alternative energy sources are developed, and that won't happen until gasoline hits 5 to 10 dollars a gallon. On second thought, that might happen sooner than we think. My guess is that WW III will be all about oil and that history will not be kind to the US energy policies of the last 30 years. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:09:41 -0500, DSK wrote: I own several oil company stocks, and the neither dividends nor price appreciation has not followed reported profits... yet... Then you haven't owned them long enough. Oil will be king until alternative energy sources are developed, and that won't happen until gasoline hits 5 to 10 dollars a gallon. On second thought, that might happen sooner than we think. My guess is that WW III will be all about oil and that history will not be kind to the US energy policies of the last 30 years. Heck, WWII was about oil. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor as a result of the oil embargo we imposed upon them. |
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