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NOYB January 31st 06 12:14 AM

Affording Fuel
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
. ..
More people are living in cardboard boxes in this country than ever and
these fat cats are making more and paying less taxes than ever. And we
are
STILL cutting taxes while the deficit skyrockets. How can these people
call themselves conservative?


The deficit fell from '04 to '05...and its expected to continue to fall
through at least '09.


In the past 30 years we've gone from:

Biggest importer of raw materials and exporter of finished goods

to

Biggest exporter of raw materials and largest importer of finished
goods.

China and Japan own a large percentage of our currency, corporations are
allowed to operate offshore to avoid taxation and more of our currency
is flooding into the mid-east than ever before.

I just had a meeting with some very nice folks from the mid-east who
don't mind us being in Iraq at all. Their friends are making money hand
over fist supplying goods and services to our troops.

Not only are we sending them tankerloads of oil money, we're paying them
seven different ways for supplying our country with goods and services.

Something wrong with this picture? Why are we so damned near-sighted???


The biggest danger to our country is allowing jobs to escape to countries
that are not our allies. China is our biggest threat...and corporations
have bought into the Chinese government horse and pony show that paints such
a rosy scenario over there. It's a facade...and China's recent restrictions
placed on Google are a perfect example of how screwed up things are over
there right now.

For the first time in the last half decade, I decided to buy an American car
again. I would hope you and every other American would consider doing the
same. For a very long time, American car manufacturers had their problems,
and you were right to stay away. But I can assure you that in their latest
entries to the market, the American auto maufacturer's quality and
engineering is on par with the best of them again.

Awhile back you stated that if a car manufacturer made an all-wheel-drive
sport sedan that is comparable to what you were driving at the time (an Audi
Quattro?), you'd buy it. So now I'm going to hold you to your word: go
drive the Cadillac STS AWD or the Chrysler 300M AWD and buy whichever you
like better. Either should fit your needs nicely. I went from an Infiniti
G35 to a Cadillac STS and have been very happy with the choice.






JohnH January 31st 06 12:19 AM

Affording Fuel
 
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:51:12 -0800, jps wrote:

In article . net,
says...

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
. ..
More people are living in cardboard boxes in this country than ever and
these fat cats are making more and paying less taxes than ever. And we are
STILL cutting taxes while the deficit skyrockets. How can these people
call themselves conservative?


The deficit fell from '04 to '05...and its expected to continue to fall
through at least '09.


In the past 30 years we've gone from:

Biggest importer of raw materials and exporter of finished goods

to

Biggest exporter of raw materials and largest importer of finished
goods.

China and Japan own a large percentage of our currency, corporations are
allowed to operate offshore to avoid taxation and more of our currency
is flooding into the mid-east than ever before.

I just had a meeting with some very nice folks from the mid-east who
don't mind us being in Iraq at all. Their friends are making money hand
over fist supplying goods and services to our troops.

Not only are we sending them tankerloads of oil money, we're paying them
seven different ways for supplying our country with goods and services.

Something wrong with this picture? Why are we so damned near-sighted???

jps


It's in a.politics.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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Dan Krueger January 31st 06 12:28 AM

Affording Fuel
 
George F wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

I've had one hell of a time justifying the expense of fuel and,
consequently, over the last year our boat has been out very little.

Now I come to find that Exxon, Chevron and Halliburton have made more
money this past year than at any time in history and our rate of savings
hasn't been this low since 1933.



10bil profit on revenue of 100bil seems about right to me.


First post here, George? Welcome.

10% is a hefty net profit but it's really about 8.48% (XOM). Compare it
to HD at 6.8% or WAG at 3.7%. Few complain about their prices.

Dan

jps January 31st 06 12:28 AM

Affording Fuel
 
In article ,
says...
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in
:

You cannot deny them a profit, but it is obvious the oil company's are
fleecing us.


Knight-Ridder has a higher profit margin than Exxon-Mobil. Is "Big Media"
fleecing us too? And if so, where are your protestations against them?


One is a voluntary purchase, the other is as close to mandatory and one
could come.

Capiche?

jps

jps January 31st 06 12:33 AM

Affording Fuel
 
In article ,
says...
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in
:


"Fred Dehl" wrote in message
...
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in
:

You cannot deny them a profit, but it is obvious the oil company's
are fleecing us.

Knight-Ridder has a higher profit margin than Exxon-Mobil. Is "Big
Media" fleecing us too? And if so, where are your protestations
against them?


Big Media is not a commodity that drives our production and economy.
I could give a rats ass what their profits are. The entire US can
live without newspapers as they can get their news from the net, TV or
radio. The US cannot live without oil and gasoline.


Sure we can, if we listen to you faggot-assed treehuggers, stick daisies
in our exhaust pipes and convert everything to windpower (except around
Hyannisport, of course.


You think JimH is a faggot-assed treehugger?

Whew, you just blew any claim to February 29th cerebral function, as I'm
sure several of us had already suspected.

jps

jps January 31st 06 12:35 AM

Affording Fuel
 
In article ,
says...
jps wrote in
:

The Chevron, Exxon, Halliburton news just sent me over the edge...


Knight-Ridder has had higher profit margins for years.

It's taxation of another variety but taxation none the less.


If only you were a good little treehugger you wouldn't be using any fossil
fuel products and therefore would be exempt from this "taxation". How DO
you sleep?


I'm not into tree hugging, I'm into sustainable consumption.

How do you sleep while jerking off continuously?

jps

jps January 31st 06 12:36 AM

Affording Fuel
 
In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...

I'd rather see investment in alternative energy research than finding
another way to wring out profits in a short-term, quarter to quarter
profit strategy.

jps



Unfortunately, that's their job. The driver is the shareholders. The
shareholders want a return - the bigger the better.

The shareholders are people like you and me and millions of other easy money
speculators.

RCE


That's a nice theory.

However, as DSK pointed out, shareholders haven't been substantially
rewarded for the climb in profits.

jps

jps January 31st 06 12:38 AM

Affording Fuel
 
In article ,
says...
" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in
:

And folks can choose to stop buying newspapers. Not true of gasoline.


Bull****, asswipe.


JohnH, are you going to step in here to calm this peckerhead down? Why
is it that you're so quick to offer the preamble to the left and not so
quick in name-callers like this.

For Christ's sake, he just called JimH a faggot treehugger. I just
about fell out my chair!!!

jps

Dan Krueger January 31st 06 12:40 AM

Affording Fuel
 
Fred Dehl wrote:

" JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote in
:


You cannot deny them a profit, but it is obvious the oil company's are
fleecing us.



Knight-Ridder has a higher profit margin than Exxon-Mobil. Is "Big Media"
fleecing us too? And if so, where are your protestations against them?


I'm not on either side, but KRI's profits are nothing compared to EOM.
Their net income is roughly 13% of EOM's *PROFITS*. Not a good comparison.

Dan

jps January 31st 06 12:42 AM

Affording Fuel
 
In article . net,
says...

"jps" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
says...

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
. ..
More people are living in cardboard boxes in this country than ever and
these fat cats are making more and paying less taxes than ever. And we
are
STILL cutting taxes while the deficit skyrockets. How can these people
call themselves conservative?

The deficit fell from '04 to '05...and its expected to continue to fall
through at least '09.


In the past 30 years we've gone from:

Biggest importer of raw materials and exporter of finished goods

to

Biggest exporter of raw materials and largest importer of finished
goods.

China and Japan own a large percentage of our currency, corporations are
allowed to operate offshore to avoid taxation and more of our currency
is flooding into the mid-east than ever before.

I just had a meeting with some very nice folks from the mid-east who
don't mind us being in Iraq at all. Their friends are making money hand
over fist supplying goods and services to our troops.

Not only are we sending them tankerloads of oil money, we're paying them
seven different ways for supplying our country with goods and services.

Something wrong with this picture? Why are we so damned near-sighted???


The biggest danger to our country is allowing jobs to escape to countries
that are not our allies. China is our biggest threat...and corporations
have bought into the Chinese government horse and pony show that paints such
a rosy scenario over there. It's a facade...and China's recent restrictions
placed on Google are a perfect example of how screwed up things are over
there right now.

For the first time in the last half decade, I decided to buy an American car
again. I would hope you and every other American would consider doing the
same. For a very long time, American car manufacturers had their problems,
and you were right to stay away. But I can assure you that in their latest
entries to the market, the American auto maufacturer's quality and
engineering is on par with the best of them again.

Awhile back you stated that if a car manufacturer made an all-wheel-drive
sport sedan that is comparable to what you were driving at the time (an Audi
Quattro?), you'd buy it. So now I'm going to hold you to your word: go
drive the Cadillac STS AWD or the Chrysler 300M AWD and buy whichever you
like better. Either should fit your needs nicely. I went from an Infiniti
G35 to a Cadillac STS and have been very happy with the choice.


Are you claiming to be a good American or a good investor?

I don't think the above suggestion would satisfy both criteria.

jps


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