Time for Moderation?
 

Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Reggie Smithers wrote:
Skipper wrote:
This NG has is going through challenging times. Where once it was the
predominant boating NG populated by many industry experts, it has now
become little more than an off-topic chatroom. Most of truly
knowledgeable have long since abandoned this forum for saner climes.
Where once the very best advice could be found here, now serious
questions will most likely be greeted with flame.

Perhaps the time has come to convert rec.boats to a moderated NG and
restore its previous image. Yes, I know it would be a daunting
task. To
win, the proposal must have 100 more YES votes than NO votes and
two/thirds of the votes must be YES. We could announce the proposal in
*all* the boating groups.

The moderation could be set up to recognize white contributors and
black
contributors. Thus automating 95% of the moderation tasks. New
contributors could be hand moderated until they've posted two or three
times. Moderators could be voted on by the group, and a committee
would
have to agree before a contributor was blacklisted (we don't need a
BoaterEd). Open on-topic debate WOULD be encouraged.

Should you be interested in seeing this forum as a moderated NG
respond
in this thread. If there is enough support we'll just grab hold of the
tiger's tail and run with it.
--
Skipper
Skipper,
It will be a lot of work, but I think you can do it.


Are you encouraging Skipper or just playing him?
I personally think it is impossible to get the group moderated, and
believe that very few people in the group, including Skipper, want the
group moderated.



I also believe it is impossible to get this group moderated, but am
curious as to why you believe that Snipper is opposed to such
moderation. He seems hot for it.

I believe Skipper was trying to emphasize the need for on topic posts.
I also believe Skippers West Coast vs East Coast, Floriduh etc. post are
efforts to get people to discuss boating topics. Anyone who has spent
more than a few weeks in any NG soon discovers what kind of posts will
generate the longest threads.

The problem with the West Vs East posts are they have been beaten to
death, no one is really interested beating the horse anymore, so they
generate NO on topic discussions. I find skippers posts about the
beauty of the Sea of Cortes to much more interesting than the Florida is
a piece of **** posts. Very few boaters in rec.boats have visited the
Sea of Cortes, and it would be a great place to charter a boat and enjoy
some very different boating and scenery. The last thing I would want to
do is spend a week or two in a tiny 22' boat, but it would be a great
time in a 36-40' trawler or sailboat.

Skipper may not get the Sea of Cortes often, but it obviously made a
lasting impression on him.

Skipper has also done some River Cruising which very few of us have
done. I would find that to be a better use for a small cruiser. It
would be easy to trailer, easy to maneuver around the river traffic, and
locks. It would also be easy to find a place to tie up for the night,
eat a great dinner and sleep ashore.
--
Reggie
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That's my story and I am sticking to it.

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Reggie Smithers wrote:


Are you encouraging Skipper or just playing him?

I personally think it is impossible to get the group moderated, and
believe that very few people in the group, including Skipper, want the
group moderated.


Skipper's bored out there on the frozen prairie. He's just having fun
seeing what he can stir up.
I suggest he look into curling to pass the long winter nights...that is
if his gimpy knees will hold him up.

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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Reggie Smithers wrote:

Are you encouraging Skipper or just playing him?

I personally think it is impossible to get the group moderated, and
believe that very few people in the group, including Skipper, want
the group moderated.


Skipper's bored out there on the frozen prairie. He's just having fun
seeing what he can stir up.
I suggest he look into curling to pass the long winter nights...that
is if his gimpy knees will hold him up.



Curling actually looks like a lot of fun to play. But, like most sports,
I don't like watching it much. About the only spectator sport I enjoy is
"the baseball," maybe because of its pace and finesse, and because one
of the objects of the game is NOT to beat up on the opposing players.

As for Snipper's location, out there in Wichita-ville, I think I once
posted that when a reporter on the newspaper screwed up badly, he or she
was sent down to Wichita to find a write a feature story.

"Oh no, oh no, anything but Wichita..."

"Anything?"

"Anything!"

In those days, it was *the* real hotbed of racial, religious and
political intolerance. Many of the "good citizens" apparently never got
over "losing" Brown v. Board of Education.


Has to make you wonder why Skipper stays there..... now that he's
retired and seems to love the west coast so much.

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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 17:32:42 GMT, Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

Reggie Smithers wrote:

Are you encouraging Skipper or just playing him?

I personally think it is impossible to get the group moderated, and
believe that very few people in the group, including Skipper, want
the group moderated.


Skipper's bored out there on the frozen prairie. He's just having fun
seeing what he can stir up.
I suggest he look into curling to pass the long winter nights...that
is if his gimpy knees will hold him up.



Curling actually looks like a lot of fun to play. But, like most sports,
I don't like watching it much. About the only spectator sport I enjoy is
"the baseball," maybe because of its pace and finesse, and because one
of the objects of the game is NOT to beat up on the opposing players.

As for Snipper's location, out there in Wichita-ville, I think I once
posted that when a reporter on the newspaper screwed up badly, he or she
was sent down to Wichita to find a write a feature story.

"Oh no, oh no, anything but Wichita..."

"Anything?"

"Anything!"

In those days, it was *the* real hotbed of racial, religious and
political intolerance. Many of the "good citizens" apparently never got
over "losing" Brown v. Board of Education.


Has to make you wonder why Skipper stays there..... now that he's
retired and seems to love the west coast so much.

Family? Boating is not necessarily the sole driving force in decisions on
where to live.

IIRC, family is one of the main reasons you live where you do.
--
'Til next time,

John H

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***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
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JohnH wrote:

IIRC, family is one of the main reasons you live where you do.

Yep, ~ 2000 miles away... ;-)

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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 20:37:19 -0600, Skipper wrote:

Where once the very best advice could be found here, now serious
questions will most likely be greeted with flame.

Evidence please. I have not found this to be true at all, case in
point, my recent question on DD671 diesels. Check it out.

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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 09:00:41 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

I believe Skipper was trying to emphasize the need for on topic posts.
I also believe Skippers West Coast vs East Coast, Floriduh etc. post are
efforts to get people to discuss boating topics.

I think they're trolls. Even a cursory examination of Snipper's language
indicates he is trying to start a fight with them.

The fish in Florida are much too smart to fall for that nonsense.

Things seem to be a bit slow in Kansas this time of year. If I had
more time I'd post a trip report of our weekend cruise to Cayo Costa
Island, the countless Bottlenose Dolphins that played in our wake
coming and going, the nearly deserted beautiful beaches, and the
emerald blue green tropical water.

Florida is certainly the pits.

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"Skipper" wrote in message
...
This NG has is going through challenging times. Where once it was the
predominant boating NG populated by many industry experts, it has now
become little more than an off-topic chatroom. Most of truly
knowledgeable have long since abandoned this forum for saner climes.
Where once the very best advice could be found here, now serious
questions will most likely be greeted with flame.

Perhaps the time has come to convert rec.boats to a moderated NG and
restore its previous image. Yes, I know it would be a daunting task. To
win, the proposal must have 100 more YES votes than NO votes and
two/thirds of the votes must be YES. We could announce the proposal in
*all* the boating groups.

The moderation could be set up to recognize white contributors and black
contributors.

What if you are half white and half black?

Time for Moderation?
 

On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:02:21 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote:

The only bright spot is Johnson
County, a Kansas City, Missouri, suburb.

Everthing is up to date in Kansas City,

they've gone about as far as they can go...

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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:12:37 -0600, "Dan J.S." wrote:

What if you are half white and half black?

Snipper lives in a black and white world, mostly white I suspect.