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Floriduh - A Passing Fad
NOYB wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. NOYB wrote: "Skipper" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: OK. Later today, I'm going fishing at the 5 mile reefs to target...sheepshead. Sheepshead? Jeeze, that's like pullin up discarded bicycle tires. Triggerfish put up a real fight and are worth eatin. Down Mexico way the boys filet em for ya soon as the boat hits the dock. Triggers are probably the fightenest fish pound for pound you can sling aboard. Pound-for-pound, the lowly pinfish outfights all others...followed closely by anything in the tuna family, and most fish in the jack family. I've caught plenty of triggerfish. They are excellent eating, but a bear to clean. But I never pulled one up and said to myself "damn, that was one tough fish". I'd put their fighting ability on par with a small black drum or a sheepshead. Tomorrow, I'm hooking up the smaller boat to tow an hour and 50 minutes across Alligator Alley and fish for Sailfish. Would seem you have a truly trailerable boat then. Wouldn't want to lug a Parker 25 that far. Why not? I sold the 25' Whaler to my dad, and he bought a trailer for it. My Sequoia tows it just fine. NYOB, Are all of the triggerfish eatable? I always thought they were too pretty to eat, sort of like eating Bambi. I dunno what you mean about "all of the triggerfish"...since I've only caught one variant of the fish. I'm sure they're all just as tasty...just like Bambi is as tasty as her mom, only more tender. NYOB, I am talking about the colorful reef fish such as the Queen Trigger, the Picasso Trigger, Clown Trigger, Leafy Trigger, Red Tooth Trigger, Titan Trigger etc. You know the "Bambi" of the fish world. I bet you didn't cry when Bambi's mom was killed. -- Reggie ************************************************** ************* That's my story and I am sticking to it. ************************************************** ************* |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
NOYB wrote:
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. Harry Krause wrote: NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:06:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote: Tomorrow, I'm hooking up the smaller boat to tow an hour and 50 minutes across Alligator Alley and fish 2.5 miles offshore for Sailfish, kingfish, and wahoo. Where do you launch on the east coast? Any trailer parking issues? Haulover. I've only been there once, and there was plenty of parking...but it wasn't during season. We're leaving the house at 4:30am, so we clear the pass by sunrise. We might put the trip on hold 'til Saturday due to predicted 15-20knot winds out of the East on Friday and early Saturday. We stay on the other side of the bridge from Haulover. Then as you know, Haulover can be a messy inlet on a new moon outgoing tide with a strong onshore wind...which is exactly what is predicted for tomorrow. Winds are out of the east at 15-20 knots, and seas are 7 to 9 feet on top of a 3 foot swell. Perfect sailfish conditions...but not when you're going out in an 18' Boston Whaler...so our plans have changed. Instead, we're running in the Grady to the one of the DoD towers southwest of Marco on this coast. Seas are predicted to be 2-4 late Saturday...decreasing to 2' or less by Sunday. Actually, I like walking across the bridge to the north side of Haulover early in the morning to watch the boats leaving. There used to be a bait and snack barge anchored about a half mile up the ICW from the inlet, but I haven't seen it in a couple of years. Anyone who is in that area ought to check out some of the "head boats" for a half day of fishing on the cheap. It's hard not to catch fish with these captains, and since they only go about 1-2 miles out and three to four miles down the beach, most of the time is spent fishing. Haulover's a great kite-flying park, too. And there are hundreds of restuarants and good shopping nearby, too. The reason why those head boats are so successful catching fish is as soon as they hit the breakwaters half the passengers are having over the back railing chumming for fish. That could be. But my experience with headboats is that they're for googans who hold their reels upside down, and bring along 100 lb. tackle to fight 2 pound porgies. NYOB, Yeah, so whats your point? ; ) I went on a head boat may years ago. The captain told everyone to drop their line to the bottom, and start pulling the bait up and down and after awhile just bring the line up, (you could not feel if a fish was on or not). I swear, half the fish were hook on their tails, on the side of the body etc. These poor fish were swimming along and suddenly they were snagged by a wandering hook and they were hauled up. -- Reggie ************************************************** ************* That's my story and I am sticking to it. ************************************************** ************* |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:52:47 +0000, NOYB wrote:
The ban has helped certain populations like seatrout over the past several years... but overall the fishing has been poor this year. The Army Corp of Engineers is dumping too much freshwater down the Caloosahatchee to drain Okeechobee, and it's killing the estuary system. The offshore scene (30 miles) is still doing pretty well, but the bait fish run (and the king and spanish mackeral/tarpon that follow them) which usually takes place in the Fall simply didn't happen this year. Most believe that the runoff from the Caloosahatchee is to blame. The Corp was pumping something like 2 million gallons of polluted lake water per minute into the estuaries and onto the beaches of Ft. Myers and Sanibel. It may get worse, before it gets better. The St. Lucie River is now so bad that there is a "no contact" advisory. The group defending the St. Lucie want more water released into the Calooshatchee. I've never been too impressed with Florida's "good old boy" governing style. They seem to be willing to trash all of South Florida, all so a few West Palm families can make their money in sugar. It doesn't seem right to me. http://www.sccf.org/White%20Paper.pdf |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:52:47 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:21:31 +0000, NOYB wrote: Then as you know, Haulover can be a messy inlet on a new moon outgoing tide with a strong onshore wind...which is exactly what is predicted for tomorrow. Winds are out of the east at 15-20 knots, and seas are 7 to 9 feet on top of a 3 foot swell. Perfect sailfish conditions...but not when you're going out in an 18' Boston Whaler...so our plans have changed. Instead, we're running in the Grady to the one of the DoD towers southwest of Marco on this coast. Seas are predicted to be 2-4 late Saturday...decreasing to 2' or less by Sunday. Just curious, NOYB, how's the net ban working out? I did a fair deal of fishing in Florida before it passed, but none since. I thought the fishing was pretty damn good before, how's it now? Is the ban still controversial, or are most happy with it? The ban has helped certain populations like seatrout over the past several years... but overall the fishing has been poor this year. The Army Corp of Engineers is dumping too much freshwater down the Caloosahatchee to drain Okeechobee, and it's killing the estuary system. The offshore scene (30 miles) is still doing pretty well, but the bait fish run (and the king and spanish mackeral/tarpon that follow them) which usually takes place in the Fall simply didn't happen this year. Most believe that the runoff from the Caloosahatchee is to blame. The Corp was pumping something like 2 million gallons of polluted lake water per minute into the estuaries and onto the beaches of Ft. Myers and Sanibel. Our seatrout in the Bay are basically gone, unless some decide to wander in this year. The fall striper run didn't happen last year. In fact, after the spring striper run, nothing much was caught the rest of the summer. Of course, we now have a 'cap' on the commercial menhaden harvest in the Bay, so that should help immensely (especially since the 'cap' exceeds the normal harvest anyway). -- 'Til next time, John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 13:52:47 +0000, NOYB wrote: The ban has helped certain populations like seatrout over the past several years... but overall the fishing has been poor this year. The Army Corp of Engineers is dumping too much freshwater down the Caloosahatchee to drain Okeechobee, and it's killing the estuary system. The offshore scene (30 miles) is still doing pretty well, but the bait fish run (and the king and spanish mackeral/tarpon that follow them) which usually takes place in the Fall simply didn't happen this year. Most believe that the runoff from the Caloosahatchee is to blame. The Corp was pumping something like 2 million gallons of polluted lake water per minute into the estuaries and onto the beaches of Ft. Myers and Sanibel. It may get worse, before it gets better. The St. Lucie River is now so bad that there is a "no contact" advisory. The group defending the St. Lucie want more water released into the Calooshatchee. I've never been too impressed with Florida's "good old boy" governing style. They seem to be willing to trash all of South Florida, all so a few West Palm families can make their money in sugar. It doesn't seem right to me. It doesn't seem right to me either. In the mid-90's, voters adopted an Amendment known as "polluter pays". With "polluter pays", the law was written such that whoever did the polluting of the Everglades, would have to pay for the cleanup. There was a class-action suit filed in 1998 regarding the government's inaction on the matter...and as far as I know, there's still been no ruling on the matter: http://www.saveoureverglades.org/pol...lass_main.html About 2 weeks ago, they stopped the releases down the Caloosahatchee. I went out today, and that awful brown water we have had since last Fall, is now a pretty green/blue. Unfortunately, some nincompoop at South Florida Water Mgmt has decided that the salinity in the estuary system has gotten too high again (at least that's the excuse)...so they're going to release more water down the river. Recently, Sen. Bill Nelson came to Ft. Myers to inspect the water quality issue. He's seeking Federal funding for alternative water basins/reservoirs to dump the Okeechobee water into. But why?!? Big Sugar ought to pay...not the American taxpayer. Nevertheless, the water quality has been pretty good since his trip. ;-) |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:31:05 +0000, NOYB wrote:
It doesn't seem right to me either. In the mid-90's, voters adopted an Amendment known as "polluter pays". With "polluter pays", the law was written such that whoever did the polluting of the Everglades, would have to pay for the cleanup. There was a class-action suit filed in 1998 regarding the government's inaction on the matter...and as far as I know, there's still been no ruling on the matter: http://www.saveoureverglades.org/pol...lass_main.html About 2 weeks ago, they stopped the releases down the Caloosahatchee. I went out today, and that awful brown water we have had since last Fall, is now a pretty green/blue. Unfortunately, some nincompoop at South Florida Water Mgmt has decided that the salinity in the estuary system has gotten too high again (at least that's the excuse)...so they're going to release more water down the river. Recently, Sen. Bill Nelson came to Ft. Myers to inspect the water quality issue. He's seeking Federal funding for alternative water basins/reservoirs to dump the Okeechobee water into. But why?!? Big Sugar ought to pay...not the American taxpayer. Nevertheless, the water quality has been pretty good since his trip. ;-) They probably cleaned up because they knew he was coming. Sugar sure has a sweet deal. They are heavily subsidized, the sugar is sold at above world market pricing, and, all on land that wasn't suitable until they messed with Okeechobee's plumbing, sweet. Never mind, Florida Bay is dying, the Everglades need help, as do all the waters south of Okeechobee. |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
I consider it my mission in life to convince people that Florida is
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Floriduh - A Passing Fad
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Floriduh - A Passing Fad
wrote in message ... On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:26:55 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: The Caloosahatchee was designed to handle all that water when it was "channelized". The Sanibel Causeway is what screwed up the flow. SW Florida is going to disappear, sort of like Atlantis? If we have a storm that tracks such that the wind is out of the north across the lake Clewiston might be the new Atlantis. Having real estate in So. Florida was an eye opening experience for me. At one point we had two properties located in a gated development that was built on 1000 acres in the middle of swamp lands. Nice, until the hurricane season of 2004 destroyed one of the berms on a water management system that controls the level of Lake Okeechobee. At 11 feet above sea level, most of the house lots became personal islands within 12 hours of the berm failure. Some houses were flooded. Next came the snakes and alligators. Sold both properties. RCE |
Floriduh - A Passing Fad
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 22:20:37 -0500, gfretwell wrote:
I agree Big Sugar is part of the problem but so in Mickey Mouse, all those yards, streets and golf courses in Orlando. All that water ends up in the Kissimee river. It sounds like you have studied this issue. Is there a solution? It's my understanding (limited), that the Everglades and Florida Bay need more fresh water, but that's being diverted to the St. Lucie and Caloosahatchee, and that the water that is reaching the Everglades has way too much fertilizer in it. |
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