Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

NOYB wrote:

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/fstrig/fstrig.htm

A similar sized jack crevalle would pull that triggerfish halfway to Texas
before the trigger even flapped his tail twice.

But you keep telling people that triggerfish are the toughest fish in the
sea. It's quite entertaining. But make sure to add the caveat that you
live in Kansas...or they might think that you're on mind-altering
substances.

Tell us honestly, have you ever tied onto a good sized roosterfish?

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/roost/roost.htm

--
Skipper

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/fstrig/fstrig.htm

A similar sized jack crevalle would pull that triggerfish halfway to
Texas
before the trigger even flapped his tail twice.

But you keep telling people that triggerfish are the toughest fish in the
sea. It's quite entertaining. But make sure to add the caveat that you
live in Kansas...or they might think that you're on mind-altering
substances.

Tell us honestly, have you ever tied onto a good sized roosterfish?

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/roost/roost.htm


No. When I fished Cabo, I caught a striped marlin and a large bull
dorado...but no roosterfish. Since the roosterfish is in the jack family,
I'd expect a tough fight out of it.

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

NOYB wrote:

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/roost/roost.htm

No. When I fished Cabo, I caught a striped marlin and a large bull
dorado...but no roosterfish. Since the roosterfish is in the jack family,
I'd expect a tough fight out of it.

Not surprised, Cabo is the striped marlin capital of the world, and
dorado can usually be found around any patch of floating whatever there.
Both prized catches indeed, but the roosterfish is unlikely to be
encountered by those half-day charters out of Cabo. You'd probably have
as good a chance casting from shore for these beasts.

My most memorable roosterfish encounters have not envolved hooking them,
but observing them at dawn and dusk in secluded coves of the Cortez.
Here's the drill...You are anchored for the night in a remote cove.
Everything is peaceful and relaxed. You're sitting back when all of a
sudden the peace is broken by a powerful commotion on the surface. You
rise to observe these monsters attacking a school of baitfish. Their
quickness and power is something you will never forget.

I relate this story to illustrate you will *never* really see the Cortez
from those half-day charters...and the Cortez is worth seeing if you
have a real sense for adventure in your being. Steinbeck's words were
not idle chatter, the place inspires superlatives for those who go
beyond the immediate, as Steinbeck did.

--
Skipper

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:21:31 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Then as you know, Haulover can be a messy inlet on a new moon outgoing
tide with a strong onshore wind...which is exactly what is predicted for
tomorrow. Winds are out of the east at 15-20 knots, and seas are 7 to 9
feet on top of a 3 foot swell. Perfect sailfish conditions...but not when
you're going out in an 18' Boston Whaler...so our plans have changed.

Instead, we're running in the Grady to the one of the DoD towers southwest
of Marco on this coast. Seas are predicted to be 2-4 late
Saturday...decreasing to 2' or less by Sunday.

Just curious, NOYB, how's the net ban working out? I did a fair deal of
fishing in Florida before it passed, but none since. I thought the
fishing was pretty damn good before, how's it now? Is the ban still
controversial, or are most happy with it?

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

NOYB wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

OK. Later today, I'm going fishing at the 5 mile reefs to
target...sheepshead.
Sheepshead? Jeeze, that's like pullin up discarded bicycle tires.
Triggerfish put up a real fight and are worth eatin. Down Mexico way the
boys filet em for ya soon as the boat hits the dock. Triggers are
probably the fightenest fish pound for pound you can sling aboard.

Pound-for-pound, the lowly pinfish outfights all others...followed closely
by anything in the tuna family, and most fish in the jack family.

I've caught plenty of triggerfish. They are excellent eating, but a bear to
clean. But I never pulled one up and said to myself "damn, that was one
tough fish". I'd put their fighting ability on par with a small black drum
or a sheepshead.







Tomorrow, I'm hooking up the smaller boat to tow an hour and 50 minutes
across Alligator Alley and fish for Sailfish.
Would seem you have a truly trailerable boat then. Wouldn't want to lug
a Parker 25 that far.

Why not? I sold the 25' Whaler to my dad, and he bought a trailer for it.
My Sequoia tows it just fine.



NYOB,
Are all of the triggerfish eatable? I always thought they were too
pretty to eat, sort of like eating Bambi.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:06:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Tomorrow, I'm hooking up the smaller boat to
tow an hour and 50 minutes across Alligator Alley and fish 2.5 miles
offshore for Sailfish, kingfish, and wahoo.
Where do you launch on the east coast? Any trailer parking issues?
Haulover. I've only been there once, and there was plenty of
parking...but it wasn't during season.

We're leaving the house at 4:30am, so we clear the pass by sunrise.
We might put the trip on hold 'til Saturday due to predicted
15-20knot winds out of the East on Friday and early Saturday.


We stay on the other side of the bridge from Haulover.

Then as you know, Haulover can be a messy inlet on a new moon outgoing
tide with a strong onshore wind...which is exactly what is predicted
for tomorrow. Winds are out of the east at 15-20 knots, and seas are 7
to 9 feet on top of a 3 foot swell. Perfect sailfish conditions...but
not when you're going out in an 18' Boston Whaler...so our plans have
changed.

Instead, we're running in the Grady to the one of the DoD towers
southwest of Marco on this coast. Seas are predicted to be 2-4 late
Saturday...decreasing to 2' or less by Sunday.







Actually, I like walking across the bridge to the north side of
Haulover early in the morning to watch the boats leaving. There used to
be a bait and snack barge anchored about a half mile up the ICW from the
inlet, but I haven't seen it in a couple of years.

Anyone who is in that area ought to check out some of the "head boats"
for a half day of fishing on the cheap. It's hard not to catch fish with
these captains, and since they only go about 1-2 miles out and three to
four miles down the beach, most of the time is spent fishing.

Haulover's a great kite-flying park, too. And there are hundreds of
restuarants and good shopping nearby, too.

The reason why those head boats are so successful catching fish is as
soon as they hit the breakwaters half the passengers are having over the
back railing chumming for fish.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

http://www.mexfish.com/fish/roost/roost.htm

No. When I fished Cabo, I caught a striped marlin and a large bull
dorado...but no roosterfish. Since the roosterfish is in the jack
family,
I'd expect a tough fight out of it.

Not surprised, Cabo is the striped marlin capital of the world, and
dorado can usually be found around any patch of floating whatever there.
Both prized catches indeed, but the roosterfish is unlikely to be
encountered by those half-day charters out of Cabo.


It was a full-day charter, and we travelled about 30 miles north along the
Pacific coast of the peninsula.



You'd probably have
as good a chance casting from shore for these beasts.

My most memorable roosterfish encounters have not envolved hooking them,
but observing them at dawn and dusk in secluded coves of the Cortez.
Here's the drill...You are anchored for the night in a remote cove.
Everything is peaceful and relaxed. You're sitting back when all of a
sudden the peace is broken by a powerful commotion on the surface. You
rise to observe these monsters attacking a school of baitfish.

"Jack attack"

Their
quickness and power is something you will never forget.

I relate this story to illustrate you will *never* really see the Cortez
from those half-day charters...and the Cortez is worth seeing if you
have a real sense for adventure in your being. Steinbeck's words were
not idle chatter, the place inspires superlatives for those who go
beyond the immediate, as Steinbeck did.

I loved the Cabo area...and plan to go back. But since neither you nor I
live there, why do you keep talking about it? When you started your east
coat/west coast tournament of urination, you were talking about the coasts
of the US. Why do you now include Mexico?

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
NOYB wrote:
"Skipper" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:

OK. Later today, I'm going fishing at the 5 mile reefs to
target...sheepshead.
Sheepshead? Jeeze, that's like pullin up discarded bicycle tires.
Triggerfish put up a real fight and are worth eatin. Down Mexico way the
boys filet em for ya soon as the boat hits the dock. Triggers are
probably the fightenest fish pound for pound you can sling aboard.

Pound-for-pound, the lowly pinfish outfights all others...followed
closely by anything in the tuna family, and most fish in the jack family.

I've caught plenty of triggerfish. They are excellent eating, but a bear
to clean. But I never pulled one up and said to myself "damn, that was
one tough fish". I'd put their fighting ability on par with a small
black drum or a sheepshead.







Tomorrow, I'm hooking up the smaller boat to tow an hour and 50 minutes
across Alligator Alley and fish for Sailfish.
Would seem you have a truly trailerable boat then. Wouldn't want to lug
a Parker 25 that far.

Why not? I sold the 25' Whaler to my dad, and he bought a trailer for
it. My Sequoia tows it just fine.



NYOB,
Are all of the triggerfish eatable? I always thought they were too pretty
to eat, sort of like eating Bambi.

I dunno what you mean about "all of the triggerfish"...since I've only
caught one variant of the fish. I'm sure they're all just as tasty...just
like Bambi is as tasty as her mom, only more tender.

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:21:31 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Then as you know, Haulover can be a messy inlet on a new moon outgoing
tide with a strong onshore wind...which is exactly what is predicted for
tomorrow. Winds are out of the east at 15-20 knots, and seas are 7 to 9
feet on top of a 3 foot swell. Perfect sailfish conditions...but not
when
you're going out in an 18' Boston Whaler...so our plans have changed.

Instead, we're running in the Grady to the one of the DoD towers
southwest
of Marco on this coast. Seas are predicted to be 2-4 late
Saturday...decreasing to 2' or less by Sunday.

Just curious, NOYB, how's the net ban working out? I did a fair deal of
fishing in Florida before it passed, but none since. I thought the
fishing was pretty damn good before, how's it now? Is the ban still
controversial, or are most happy with it?

The ban has helped certain populations like seatrout over the past several
years... but overall the fishing has been poor this year. The Army Corp of
Engineers is dumping too much freshwater down the Caloosahatchee to drain
Okeechobee, and it's killing the estuary system.

The offshore scene (30 miles) is still doing pretty well, but the bait fish
run (and the king and spanish mackeral/tarpon that follow them) which
usually takes place in the Fall simply didn't happen this year. Most
believe that the runoff from the Caloosahatchee is to blame. The Corp was
pumping something like 2 million gallons of polluted lake water per minute
into the estuaries and onto the beaches of Ft. Myers and Sanibel.

Floriduh - A Passing Fad
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
Harry Krause wrote:
NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 17:06:08 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

Tomorrow, I'm hooking up the smaller boat to
tow an hour and 50 minutes across Alligator Alley and fish 2.5 miles
offshore for Sailfish, kingfish, and wahoo.
Where do you launch on the east coast? Any trailer parking issues?
Haulover. I've only been there once, and there was plenty of
parking...but it wasn't during season.

We're leaving the house at 4:30am, so we clear the pass by sunrise.
We might put the trip on hold 'til Saturday due to predicted 15-20knot
winds out of the East on Friday and early Saturday.


We stay on the other side of the bridge from Haulover.

Then as you know, Haulover can be a messy inlet on a new moon outgoing
tide with a strong onshore wind...which is exactly what is predicted for
tomorrow. Winds are out of the east at 15-20 knots, and seas are 7 to 9
feet on top of a 3 foot swell. Perfect sailfish conditions...but not
when you're going out in an 18' Boston Whaler...so our plans have
changed.

Instead, we're running in the Grady to the one of the DoD towers
southwest of Marco on this coast. Seas are predicted to be 2-4 late
Saturday...decreasing to 2' or less by Sunday.







Actually, I like walking across the bridge to the north side of Haulover
early in the morning to watch the boats leaving. There used to be a bait
and snack barge anchored about a half mile up the ICW from the inlet, but
I haven't seen it in a couple of years.

Anyone who is in that area ought to check out some of the "head boats"
for a half day of fishing on the cheap. It's hard not to catch fish with
these captains, and since they only go about 1-2 miles out and three to
four miles down the beach, most of the time is spent fishing.

Haulover's a great kite-flying park, too. And there are hundreds of
restuarants and good shopping nearby, too.

The reason why those head boats are so successful catching fish is as soon
as they hit the breakwaters half the passengers are having over the back
railing chumming for fish.

That could be. But my experience with headboats is that they're for googans
who hold their reels upside down, and bring along 100 lb. tackle to fight 2
pound porgies.