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Eisboch January 26th 06 11:46 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




JimH January 26th 06 11:51 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed
and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with
a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened
to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




I am glad my latest post (ping: Eisboch) brought you to your
senses................although it is a pretty cool and unique handle. ;-)



RCE January 27th 06 12:03 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.


I like it! I like it!

J. Alfred Prufrock. Sorta has a ring to it, ya' know?

Hmmmm..... Think old T.S. would be ****ed?

RCE



Skipper January 27th 06 12:07 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
Harry Krause wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


From now on I shall be known as ......


From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.


Suitable for an East Coaster.

--
Skipper

RCE January 27th 06 12:11 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Unlikely. The former Eisboch keeps the bottoms of his trousers rolled.


Let us go then , you and I ,
while the ethernet is spread across the sky .
Like a patient etherised upon a table.
T1, ISDN - 56Megabits per second -
the slow yellow vapor of twisted duplex cable
that connect you from I and me and this.
Let's chat a while
about Marx - Karl or Groucho?

RCE



RCE January 27th 06 12:16 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


From now on I shall be known as ......


From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.


Suitable for an East Coaster.

--
Skipper


Are you ... Skipper A
or
Skipper B ?

whomever you may be

RCE



RCE January 27th 06 12:18 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Unlikely. The former Eisboch keeps the bottoms of his trousers rolled.


Let us go then , you and I ,
while the ethernet is spread across the sky .
Like a patient etherised upon a table.
T1, ISDN - 56Megabits per second -
the slow yellow vapor of twisted duplex cable
that connect you from I and me and this.
Let's chat a while
about Marx - Karl or Groucho?

RCE

Please...this is the anti-literate rec.boats newsgroup. You are likely to
start a fight...go eat a peach.



Damn. Just when it was getting good.

RCE



DSK January 27th 06 12:23 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Please...this is the anti-literate rec.boats newsgroup. You are likely
to start a fight...go eat a peach.


I didn't know you were an Allman Brothers fan.

DSK


RCE January 27th 06 12:28 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:
Please...this is the anti-literate rec.boats newsgroup. You are likely to
start a fight...go eat a peach.


I didn't know you were an Allman Brothers fan.

DSK


Harry's former handle was "Hoochie Coochie Man"

RCE



Bryan January 27th 06 12:32 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed
and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with
a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened
to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could only
dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I loved my
DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and Windows
nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did it! Simple as
that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant starting the
process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had finished filling
in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple (was it IIC?),
encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS world when I
couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical representation
(believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long time ago!



RCE January 27th 06 12:44 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I loved
my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and Windows
nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did it! Simple
as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant starting the
process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had finished
filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple (was it
IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS world
when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical
representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long
time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then was
bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced in a
Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button that,
when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE



Reggie Smithers January 27th 06 12:50 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Unlikely. The former Eisboch keeps the bottoms of his trousers rolled.


Let us go then , you and I ,
while the ethernet is spread across the sky .
Like a patient etherised upon a table.
T1, ISDN - 56Megabits per second -
the slow yellow vapor of twisted duplex cable
that connect you from I and me and this.
Let's chat a while
about Marx - Karl or Groucho?

RCE


RCE,
Who the hell are you anyway?

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

RCE January 27th 06 12:55 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:32:21 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:



i built an altair 8080 which, well wasn't the neatest thing on the
block, but it worked - i did some rudimentary switching with the
thing. then i went to work for small time mini-computer company and
had my run of minis until about '79 when i bought an apple ii. then
an apple iie. then a vic 20, commodore 64 and into the pc world from
there building my own until five years ago when it became a silly
quest to roll your own when you could buy for less than you could
build.


Had Commodore 64 for a while - replaced my first computer - A Texas
Instruments TI-1 or something like that. It didn't have a disk drive - had
16k of memory - and you saved your programs to a cheap Radio Shack reel to
reel tape recorder.

In our business, we built a fully automatic vapor deposition coating system
using a Tandy Trash 80. I still shutter when I think about it.

Eisb ..... ooops ...

RCE



Bryan January 27th 06 01:10 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:32:21 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed
and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS
with
a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had
a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened
to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only
dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I loved my
DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and Windows
nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did it! Simple
as
that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant starting the
process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had finished
filling
in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple (was it IIC?),
encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS world when I
couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical representation
(believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long time ago!


oh crap, here we go.

i built an altair 8080 which, well wasn't the neatest thing on the
block, but it worked - i did some rudimentary switching with the
thing. then i went to work for small time mini-computer company and
had my run of minis until about '79 when i bought an apple ii. then
an apple iie. then a vic 20, commodore 64 and into the pc world from
there building my own until five years ago when it became a silly
quest to roll your own when you could buy for less than you could
build.


What an earful of familiar names. We've come a long way. Or have we?



RCE January 27th 06 01:19 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. ..
RCE wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Unlikely. The former Eisboch keeps the bottoms of his trousers rolled.


Let us go then , you and I ,
while the ethernet is spread across the sky .
Like a patient etherised upon a table.
T1, ISDN - 56Megabits per second -
the slow yellow vapor of twisted duplex cable
that connect you from I and me and this.
Let's chat a while
about Marx - Karl or Groucho?

RCE

RCE,
Who the hell are you anyway?

--
Reggie


Just a figment of your cyber imagination, 'tis all ....

RCE



JohnH January 27th 06 01:28 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:03:58 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.


I like it! I like it!

J. Alfred Prufrock. Sorta has a ring to it, ya' know?

Hmmmm..... Think old T.S. would be ****ed?

RCE


Is that pronounced AR'- see, or Ar-SEE' ?
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Skipper January 27th 06 01:32 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
JohnH wrote:

RCE


Is that pronounced AR'- see, or Ar-SEE' ?


Arse, see...as in horses.

--
Skipper

Wayne.B January 27th 06 01:43 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:46:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.


I'll be darned, always thought it was a play on "ice box" for some
reason.

You certainly brought back a few memories with mention of Prodigy and
MIDI. IBM/Prodigy squandered almost as many opportunities as DEC did
with AltaVista. And then there is always Compuserve of course, who
thought they knew it all until they didn't.

I had a Compuserve account back in the early 80s when 300 baud was
high speed and acoustical couplers were high tech. :-)

What was the name of the network utility that you could use to connect
with Compuserve? That was my first inkling that some sort of
universal connectivity might someday be possible.


Wayne.B January 27th 06 01:48 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:38:57 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

you may now call me galactic overlord - his imperial highness teafran.


Uhhhhhh,

no.


RG January 27th 06 01:50 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

Had Commodore 64 for a while - replaced my first computer - A Texas
Instruments TI-1 or something like that. It didn't have a disk drive -
had 16k of memory - and you saved your programs to a cheap Radio Shack
reel to reel tape recorder.


Started with a VIC 20, then upgraded to a C-64 the day they hit town. Hot
stuff. But not nearly as hot as the next trade up to an Amiga. The Amiga
was way ahead of its time, but unfortunately was a Commodore product and
therefore doomed in the marketplace. Commodore, from a marketing
perspective, had the unfailing ability to screw up a one car funeral.
Finally switched to a 386 PC running Windows 3.0 in 1990 I think.



Bryan January 27th 06 02:56 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:46:26 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.


I'll be darned, always thought it was a play on "ice box" for some
reason.

You certainly brought back a few memories with mention of Prodigy and
MIDI. IBM/Prodigy squandered almost as many opportunities as DEC did
with AltaVista. And then there is always Compuserve of course, who
thought they knew it all until they didn't.

I had a Compuserve account back in the early 80s when 300 baud was
high speed and acoustical couplers were high tech. :-)

What was the name of the network utility that you could use to connect
with Compuserve? That was my first inkling that some sort of
universal connectivity might someday be possible.


I think I still have my 300 BAUD modem somewhere in my collection of "No, I
will not throw it away. It's still useful! stuff. I went hog wild when I
upgraded (that word didn't exist at the time) to my US Robotics 2400 BAUD
modem! When I did that I was able to view gifs; one a day.



-rick- January 27th 06 03:24 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
Eisboch wrote:

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"


Then I should be "MacTarnahan"

Calif Bill January 27th 06 05:11 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did it!
Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant
starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had
finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple
(was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS
world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical
representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long
time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then
was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced in
a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button that,
when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but maybe
an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed on dot
matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii art.



Calif Bill January 27th 06 05:16 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:32:21 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:



i built an altair 8080 which, well wasn't the neatest thing on the
block, but it worked - i did some rudimentary switching with the
thing. then i went to work for small time mini-computer company and
had my run of minis until about '79 when i bought an apple ii. then
an apple iie. then a vic 20, commodore 64 and into the pc world from
there building my own until five years ago when it became a silly
quest to roll your own when you could buy for less than you could
build.


Had Commodore 64 for a while - replaced my first computer - A Texas
Instruments TI-1 or something like that. It didn't have a disk drive -
had 16k of memory - and you saved your programs to a cheap Radio Shack
reel to reel tape recorder.

In our business, we built a fully automatic vapor deposition coating
system using a Tandy Trash 80. I still shutter when I think about it.

Eisb ..... ooops ...

RCE


TI-99. I think it is still in the gargage. Had the best game for kids.
Alpiner. My daughters loved that game. Tandy had one of the best early
PC's. Had the much superior Motorola 68000 and ran SCO Unix. I think it
was the 16B. We used it to develop a multi computer hook up disk subsystem
with 8 megabytes of Cache. When 8 Megs cost a couple of thousand dollars.



Bryan January 27th 06 07:07 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and
I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did
it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant
starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had
finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple
(was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS
world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical
representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long
time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then
was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced in
a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button that,
when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but maybe
an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed on dot
matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!



Calif Bill January 27th 06 07:24 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the
net back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz
clock speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It
ran on DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks".
GeoWorks actually had a windows type format and even included a word
processing program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet
access through Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi
sequencing groups and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so
I became "Eisboch" because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch
blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and
I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did
it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif
meant starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the
gif had finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an
Apple (was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to
the DOS world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the
graphical representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that
was a long time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then
was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced
in a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button
that, when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but
maybe an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed on
dot matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii
art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!


You want some. I still got a couple of thousand. We use them for note
cards by the phone. No holes in them.



RCE January 27th 06 09:10 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...

What was the name of the network utility that you could use to connect
with Compuserve? That was my first inkling that some sort of
universal connectivity might someday be possible.


Oh, man ... I have a hazy remembrance of that, but forget the name or
details. It was some bizarre way to get your computer hooked up ... It
will come to me.

RCE



RCE January 27th 06 09:21 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

"RG" wrote in message news:U_eCf.1661$MJ.1652@fed1read07...

Had Commodore 64 for a while - replaced my first computer - A Texas
Instruments TI-1 or something like that. It didn't have a disk drive -
had 16k of memory - and you saved your programs to a cheap Radio Shack
reel to reel tape recorder.


Started with a VIC 20, then upgraded to a C-64 the day they hit town. Hot
stuff. But not nearly as hot as the next trade up to an Amiga. The Amiga
was way ahead of its time, but unfortunately was a Commodore product and
therefore doomed in the marketplace. Commodore, from a marketing
perspective, had the unfailing ability to screw up a one car funeral.
Finally switched to a 386 PC running Windows 3.0 in 1990 I think.


Believe it or not, I was still using Windows 3.0 up to about 1997 when it
finally just wouldn't run any of the newer software. I also had (should
have kept) the original Flight Simulator program. It came on a 5 1/4 inch
floppy disk and the "airplane" was represented by a simple cursor cross.
All the land representations were crude stick drawings. I spent hours
"flying" to exotic places like Derby, Kansas.

The infamous 386 chip really burned a lot of people. The 486 was just about
ready for release but they dumped the 386 on the market just to keep up with
Apple.

RCE




RCE January 27th 06 09:30 AM

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"-rick-" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"


Then I should be "MacTarnahan"


All these beers to try and so little time...

Actually, I've always enjoyed the stronger brews but, alas, the beer
drinking days are just about over. Love the taste, but it no longer loves
me. Never acquired a taste for the hard stuff. Looks like it's now an
occasional wine. Starbucks Coffee Liquor with milk and ice ain't bad.

RCE



RCE January 27th 06 09:42 AM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...



TI-99. I think it is still in the gargage. Had the best game for kids.
Alpiner. My daughters loved that game. Tandy had one of the best early
PC's. Had the much superior Motorola 68000 and ran SCO Unix. I think it
was the 16B. We used it to develop a multi computer hook up disk
subsystem with 8 megabytes of Cache. When 8 Megs cost a couple of
thousand dollars.


That was it - a TI-99. Best thing about it was that you had to learn how to
write stuff in Basic, although I think it was called "TI-Basic". I
remember doing the examples from the manual - the little stick figure that
walked around and the program that was supposed to emit ultrasonic
frequencies to keep mice away. I kept looking at the dog to see if he
noticed. He didn't.

My oldest son (now 32 yo) was about 4 or 5 at the time. He decided to drop
a dime into one of the air vents on the TI-99 and it went up in smoke.

RCE



[email protected] January 27th 06 01:16 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE


Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!


[email protected] January 27th 06 01:18 PM

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Skipper wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:

Eisboch wrote:


From now on I shall be known as ......


From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.


Suitable for an East Coaster.

--
Skipper


Skipper, which coast are YOU on?


Don White January 27th 06 03:02 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
wrote:
Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:


Eisboch wrote:


From now on I shall be known as ......


From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.


Suitable for an East Coaster.

--
Skipper



Skipper, which coast are YOU on?


Depends on which side of the two lane blacktop he happens to be
staggering along. Left ditch...right ditch..?
That farm runoff can be dangerous.

Wayne.B January 27th 06 03:12 PM

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:07:15 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!


Punched cards were hi tech. I started on punched paper tape with no
real editing capability. We had this huge clunky machine called a
Burroughs Flexowriter with a keyboard which punched the tape. The
computer was a Control Data 160A, as big as a desk, 4K of memory and
it cost about $80K circa 1967. To compile and run a Fortran program
it was first necessary to read the tape with the boot loader, then the
tape with the Fortran compiler, followed by the source code tape
(twice), and finally it would spit out a new tape with the object code
on it. At that point you were ready to re-boot and test your program.


Wayne.B January 27th 06 03:22 PM

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:10:41 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .

What was the name of the network utility that you could use to connect
with Compuserve? That was my first inkling that some sort of
universal connectivity might someday be possible.


Oh, man ... I have a hazy remembrance of that, but forget the name or
details. It was some bizarre way to get your computer hooked up ... It
will come to me.


I'm kind of remembering that it was something like "Telnet" although
that may not be exactly correct. If you didn't have a Compuserve
local number, you could dial into their network and then log onto a
pass through connection to somewhere else. It was very hi tech in the
late 70s, early 80s.


Don White January 27th 06 03:30 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote:

wrote:

Skipper wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
From now on I shall be known as ......
From now on, your new name is J. Alfred Prufrock.

Suitable for an East Coaster.

--
Skipper


Skipper, which coast are YOU on?


Depends on which side of the two lane blacktop he happens to be
staggering along. Left ditch...right ditch..?
That farm runoff can be dangerous.





My guess is that Snipper is still dragging that old Bayliner around out
there.


Behind his old John Deere tractor?

RG January 27th 06 04:01 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:07:15 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!


Punched cards were hi tech. I started on punched paper tape with no
real editing capability. We had this huge clunky machine called a
Burroughs Flexowriter with a keyboard which punched the tape. The
computer was a Control Data 160A, as big as a desk, 4K of memory and
it cost about $80K circa 1967. To compile and run a Fortran program
it was first necessary to read the tape with the boot loader, then the
tape with the Fortran compiler, followed by the source code tape
(twice), and finally it would spit out a new tape with the object code
on it. At that point you were ready to re-boot and test your program.


I remember punched tape. In 1973, I worked for a land company that
purchased a computer to keep track of the accounting of property owner's
installment contracts. The computer was made by Singer, of all things. The
program was loaded via punched tape,and the individual property owner
records were on large heavy paper ledger cards. Each ledger card had a
magnetic strip along the long side, retaining the data for each account.
Account activity was also printed on the ledger card by a dot matrix
printer. The same device read and wrote the mag strip and printed the
activity on the card. Presumably the individual account data needed to be
stored on the ledger cards because the computer itself didn't have the
storage capability to do it.

At the same time I was taking a Fortran class in college. I would type code
into a teletype machine and then sometime later go to the computer center to
retrieve a stack of punch cards. The punch cards would then be loaded into
the computer and the program compiled and run and a printout delivered.
Only to find a typo on line 32. Arrrgh! Start over.



Bryan January 27th 06 04:08 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
k.net...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the
net back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz
clock speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space.
It ran on DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks".
GeoWorks actually had a windows type format and even included a word
processing program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet
access through Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi
sequencing groups and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so
I became "Eisboch" because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch
blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid,
and I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did
it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif
meant starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the
gif had finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with
an Apple (was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched
to the DOS world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle
the graphical representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy
that was a long time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program
then was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently
re-introduced in a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's
like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button
that, when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but
maybe an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed
on dot matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii
art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!


You want some. I still got a couple of thousand. We use them for note
cards by the phone. No holes in them.


Thanks, Bill. I think I'll pass on the generous offer. My wife is an RN so
our home is filled with pads of paper from pharmaceutical vendors.



JohnH January 27th 06 04:24 PM

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On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800, wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE


Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!


BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

[email protected] January 27th 06 04:44 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800, wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE


Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!


BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,


Yeah, that is a cool one!



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