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[email protected] January 27th 06 04:45 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800, wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE


Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!


BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,

John H

Oh, and I can't wait till someone's birthday comes up.... thanks!


[email protected] January 27th 06 04:46 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:10:41 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
.. .

What was the name of the network utility that you could use to connect
with Compuserve? That was my first inkling that some sort of
universal connectivity might someday be possible.


Oh, man ... I have a hazy remembrance of that, but forget the name or
details. It was some bizarre way to get your computer hooked up ... It
will come to me.


I'm kind of remembering that it was something like "Telnet" although
that may not be exactly correct. If you didn't have a Compuserve
local number, you could dial into their network and then log onto a
pass through connection to somewhere else. It was very hi tech in the
late 70s, early 80s.


GEnie?


[email protected] January 27th 06 04:50 PM

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RCE wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...



TI-99. I think it is still in the gargage. Had the best game for kids.
Alpiner. My daughters loved that game. Tandy had one of the best early
PC's. Had the much superior Motorola 68000 and ran SCO Unix. I think it
was the 16B. We used it to develop a multi computer hook up disk
subsystem with 8 megabytes of Cache. When 8 Megs cost a couple of
thousand dollars.


That was it - a TI-99. Best thing about it was that you had to learn how to
write stuff in Basic, although I think it was called "TI-Basic". I
remember doing the examples from the manual - the little stick figure that
walked around and the program that was supposed to emit ultrasonic
frequencies to keep mice away. I kept looking at the dog to see if he
noticed. He didn't.

My oldest son (now 32 yo) was about 4 or 5 at the time. He decided to drop
a dime into one of the air vents on the TI-99 and it went up in smoke.

RCE


My very first computer was a Sinclair, you hooked it to the T.V. It
only had internal memory, no drive, so if you wrote a simple basic
program with it, you had to re-enter it if you turned it off.


RCE January 27th 06 04:58 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 04:10:41 -0500, "RCE" wrote:


you guys remember the early days of tcp/ip when you had to type in the
entire path to move a message from one part of the state to the other?

i can remember staying up nights making and probing open connections
from pc to pc thinking what a big deal it was to find a route to nyc,
then omaha and finally ca!!!

those were the days man, good times, good times.



Just *how* old are you, anyway? Methinks maybe you were Al Gore's mentor.
You did it, he just took credit for the invention.

RCE



RCE January 27th 06 05:03 PM

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wrote in message
oups.com...


My very first computer was a Sinclair, you hooked it to the T.V. It
only had internal memory, no drive, so if you wrote a simple basic
program with it, you had to re-enter it if you turned it off.


Little black miniature keyboard with plugs on the back? Yep. Had one of
those too.
In fact, it's dawning on me that my whole life has been a series of gadgets
with wires. No wonder Mrs.E likes horses.

RCE



JohnH January 27th 06 05:04 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
On 27 Jan 2006 08:45:32 -0800, wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800,
wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE

Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!


BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,

John H

Oh, and I can't wait till someone's birthday comes up.... thanks!


You're welcome! Hell, I sent one to you and to Chuck, but hadn't heard
anything. I figured I'd get a lot of complaints about the caterwauling',
but then I figured y'all didn't get the emails.
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Wayne.B January 27th 06 06:54 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:58:57 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Just *how* old are you, anyway? Methinks maybe you were Al Gore's mentor.
You did it, he just took credit for the invention.


I think he just got on the internet before we did.


[email protected] January 27th 06 07:24 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

RCE wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


My very first computer was a Sinclair, you hooked it to the T.V. It
only had internal memory, no drive, so if you wrote a simple basic
program with it, you had to re-enter it if you turned it off.


Little black miniature keyboard with plugs on the back? Yep. Had one of
those too.
In fact, it's dawning on me that my whole life has been a series of gadgets
with wires. No wonder Mrs.E likes horses.

RCE


Exactly! The wire you hooked to the TV had a slide switch on it, to
switch between channels 2 and 3, in case you received one, you'd slide
the switch to the other!


[email protected] January 27th 06 07:25 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 08:45:32 -0800, wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800,
wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE

Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!

BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,

John H

Oh, and I can't wait till someone's birthday comes up.... thanks!


You're welcome! Hell, I sent one to you and to Chuck, but hadn't heard
anything. I figured I'd get a lot of complaints about the caterwauling',
but then I figured y'all didn't get the emails.
--

It's hard to reply when you've been humbled by a star!!!!!!


[email protected] January 27th 06 07:30 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

Bryan wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and
I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did
it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant
starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had
finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple
(was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS
world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical
representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long
time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then
was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced in
a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button that,
when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but maybe
an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed on dot
matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!


The first that I ever saw of a computer's ability to talk to another
computer was at my brother's college. He took me to see a computer
(took most of a room), that he could magically ( to me) type in some
code, and another computer at Cornell would print out a dot matrix
picture of a Playboy centerfold. If you looked at it long enough, you
could figure out what it was!


[email protected] January 27th 06 07:36 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

RCE wrote:
"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I loved
my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and Windows
nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did it! Simple
as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif meant starting the
process and coming back after dinner to see if the gif had finished
filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an Apple (was it
IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to the DOS world
when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the graphical
representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long
time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then was
bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced in a
Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button that,
when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I did a lot of cad work on a 286 with a 12 mhz processor. When Autocad
came out, I was right there, and then you needed a math coprocessor.
Autocad ran under DOS long after windows became popular. I think
release 10 or 11 was the first to truly run under windows.


JohnH January 27th 06 07:53 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
On 27 Jan 2006 11:25:12 -0800, wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 08:45:32 -0800,
wrote:


JohnH wrote:
On 27 Jan 2006 05:16:49 -0800,
wrote:


Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net back
in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock speed and a
huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on DOS with a
pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks actually had a
windows type format and even included a word processing program called
"GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through Prodigy and was
heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups and "chat" rooms.
You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to
be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I am
getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE

Man...GeoWorks.....THAT brings back memories! It was the first
graphical interface I used. I was anti-windows, because anything
graphical like that slowed my computer down too much. Besides that,
most programs at that time were still DOS based. Oh, I had prodigy,
also! I remember a guy I was going to school with bought a 386 that ran
at 20Mhz. I thought he was the cat's ass with that thing... I was SO
jealous! Oh, and remember, to get any real speed out of them, you had
to add a math coprocesser!!

BTW, bassie, did I tell you I loved NASA's World Wind? Great program.
--
'Til next time,

John H
Oh, and I can't wait till someone's birthday comes up.... thanks!


You're welcome! Hell, I sent one to you and to Chuck, but hadn't heard
anything. I figured I'd get a lot of complaints about the caterwauling',
but then I figured y'all didn't get the emails.
--

It's hard to reply when you've been humbled by a star!!!!!!


Yeah, right...
--
'Til next time,

John H

******************************************
***** Have a Spectacular Day! *****
******************************************

Reggie Smithers January 28th 06 12:08 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 10:12:57 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 07:07:15 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!

Punched cards were hi tech. I started on punched paper tape with no
real editing capability. We had this huge clunky machine called a
Burroughs Flexowriter with a keyboard which punched the tape. The
computer was a Control Data 160A, as big as a desk, 4K of memory and
it cost about $80K circa 1967. To compile and run a Fortran program
it was first necessary to read the tape with the boot loader, then the
tape with the Fortran compiler, followed by the source code tape
(twice), and finally it would spit out a new tape with the object code
on it. At that point you were ready to re-boot and test your program.


i was in the math club in high school - '62/63 - and one of our
projects was to help program the mainframe at sylvania in danvers, ma.

with telephone jacks.

and ladders.

and vacuum tubes.

Tom,
I didn't know anyone who was in the math club. Did you have a pocket
protector and a slide rule strapped to your belt? ; )

Up till the early 70's all the Engineer Students kept a slide rule on
their belt, and most had a slide rule.

--
Reggie
************************************************** *************
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

************************************************** *************

Wayne.B January 28th 06 01:37 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 23:52:30 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

i was in the math club in high school - '62/63 - and one of our
projects was to help program the mainframe at sylvania in danvers, ma.

with telephone jacks.

and ladders.

and vacuum tubes.


Analog or digital?

I remember when Heathkit was selling an analog computer kit sometime
back in the early 60s.


jabadoodle January 29th 06 12:02 AM

Time to retire the name.
 

Procomm ?



Wayne.B January 30th 06 02:05 AM

Time to retire the name.
 
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 19:02:04 -0500, "jabadoodle"
wrote:


Procomm ?


Don't think so, doesn't sound right.


FREDO January 30th 06 12:45 PM

Time to retire the name.
 



"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...

"RCE" wrote in message
...

"Bryan" wrote in message
. com...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the
net back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz
clock speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It
ran on DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks".
GeoWorks actually had a windows type format and even included a word
processing program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet
access through Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi
sequencing groups and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so
I became "Eisboch" because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch
blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and
I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I could
only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB HDD. I
loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that Mac and
Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do and it did
it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of opening a gif
meant starting the process and coming back after dinner to see if the
gif had finished filling in all the pixels? I actually started with an
Apple (was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad school, and switched to
the DOS world when I couldn't find a mac program that could handle the
graphical representation (believe it or not) of my lab data. Boy that
was a long time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program then
was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently re-introduced
in a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button
that, when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but
maybe an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed on
dot matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for ascii
art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that my
kids have no idea about the punch cards!



I started out with a commodore 64 and a 300 baud modem on a service called
Quantum Link (Q-Link) for short. I think it evolved into AOL. My "handle was
Fredo5.
Our family used to have a lot of fun on Sat night with the Music Oldies
Trivia contest hosted in the Q-Link chat rooms. Back then if you won a MOT
contest you got a couple of free hours of service and if you hosted a game
you would get 4 hours of free service credited to your account.





RCE January 30th 06 01:37 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"FREDO" wrote in message
. ..




I started out with a commodore 64 and a 300 baud modem on a service called
Quantum Link (Q-Link) for short. I think it evolved into AOL. My "handle
was Fredo5.
Our family used to have a lot of fun on Sat night with the Music Oldies
Trivia contest hosted in the Q-Link chat rooms. Back then if you won a MOT
contest you got a couple of free hours of service and if you hosted a game
you would get 4 hours of free service credited to your account.



I used to host a bulletin board/chat room on Prodigy for midi enthusiasts.
For that, I received free Prodigy access. (still have the ID number taped to
the old Yamaha keyboard).
We used to composes songs by passing the files around to different
participants and each would add a track to the composition. Great fun, but
slow. Some of the music was very good by the time it was done and edited.

RCE



RCE January 30th 06 01:47 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

almost actually. there was a lot of interest in the ham community
with tcp/ip and a lot of hams were working for dec, data general and
ibm at the time. plus we were very close to mit and bolt, beranek and
newman where there were a lot of hams and the flow of information was
incredible - it was hard to keep advances in digital communications a
big secret in those days. as soon as somebody had a new product or
new approach to a problem, everybody else knew it within 24 to 36
hours - thus, the forced product cycle was amazing.


Certainly the concept of digital communications has been around for much
longer than computers or the Internet. Morse code is a form of digital
communications. I used to work on teletype machines using tape readers to
send messages at 100 wpm using FSK (frequency shift keying) modes on the
transmitters. All digital. In fact, teletype was 8 bit. A start bit, six
information bits and a stop bit for each "word". Basically 50's technology.

RCE



DSK January 30th 06 01:52 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
I used to host a bulletin board/chat room on Prodigy for midi enthusiasts.
For that, I received free Prodigy access. (still have the ID number taped to
the old Yamaha keyboard).
We used to composes songs by passing the files around to different
participants and each would add a track to the composition. Great fun, but
slow. Some of the music was very good by the time it was done and edited.



Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
you wouldnt want to share a few of those files would you?


I was just about to say the same thing.

DSK


N.L. Eckert January 30th 06 02:12 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
Eisboch wrote:
I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the net
back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz clock
speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space. It ran on
DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks". GeoWorks
actually had a windows type format and even included a word processing
program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet access through
Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi sequencing groups
and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name, so I became "Eisboch"
because I happened to be drinking a Coors Eisboch blend that night.
Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid, and I
am getting kind of tired of it anyway.
From now on I shall be known as ......
"Sam Adams"
Just kidding.
RCE
==================================
I object!! I know we don't pass a lot of traffic, but when I see a
posting with "Eisboch", I usually read it because I know its generally
On Topic and congenial.

Happy boating, Norm


JIMinFL January 30th 06 02:19 PM

Time to retire the name.
 
I thought it was called ARPANET.
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 13:54:33 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 11:58:57 -0500, "RCE" wrote:

Just *how* old are you, anyway? Methinks maybe you were Al Gore's
mentor.
You did it, he just took credit for the invention.


I think he just got on the internet before we did.


back when it wasnt called the internet, b ut was called the ctpc
network which was the most sophisticated system of that era.

why i remember when..... :)




RCE January 30th 06 03:25 PM

Time to retire the name.
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...

I used to host a bulletin board/chat room on Prodigy for midi
enthusiasts. For that, I received free Prodigy access. (still have the ID
number taped to the old Yamaha keyboard).
We used to composes songs by passing the files around to different
participants and each would add a track to the composition. Great fun,
but slow. Some of the music was very good by the time it was done and
edited.



Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
you wouldnt want to share a few of those files would you?


I was just about to say the same thing.

DSK


I am afraid all those early files are gone, lost or living in cyber heaven.
However, I *do* have a "Best of Eisboch, Vol 2" CD, available for $19.95,
usually shipped overnight ...

Just kidding .. I do have the album - consists of midis sequenced by me,
converted to .wav files and burned to a CD. Even has a cool looking album
cover with pictures of the gear used. Used to be a Vol 1 also, but it's
become of the missing.

BTW- before anyone thinks I am a talented musician or something - I am not.
I did have some music training, strum a guitar, toot a sax and semi-play
piano and keyboard, but a musician I am not. Midi sequencing is more of a
musical word processing activity. I usually record several tracks at a time
then spend hours or days editing each track, correcting, deleting and adding
until it sounds decent. The early sound modules used in computers and
keyboards were horrible but some of the newer stuff really sounds good using
digital sampling of actual instruments to develop the midi voices.

RCE



RCE January 30th 06 04:32 PM

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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its an area that really interest me - in particular now where i really
cant play my guitars all that well anymore.


It's a great hobby and good way to pass the cold, winter months.
I go through phases. I won't touch the stuff for 6 months, then get back
into it and often stay up all night sequencing and editing a composition or
retake of an existing song.

There are several decent sequencing programs out there - Cakewalk is
probably the best, IMO. I still use a 12-14 year old version of Cakewalk
3.0 with a Yamaha PSR-640 keyboard. The Yamaha has a built-in disk drive
and has the extended XG voices.

We also have a conventional baby grand piano on which the dealer installed a
QSR player. It's a contraption mounted under the sounding board with
solenoids that operate the piano hammers. It plays midi files (1 or 2 track
piano only) as well as proprietary QSR CDs. I often download classical
piano files from the net and play them on the piano system. Works amazingly
well and the little ones get a kick out of seeing the keys moving. Modern
day player piano.

Many people don't realize that when they are listening to a live band at a
nightclub or other venue that very often all of the sets are backed by midi.
A playlist is developed for the gig and usually the keyboard player operates
the midi equipment. Makes a 3 piece band sound like a symphony orchestra.

RCE



Wayne.B January 30th 06 07:03 PM

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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:37:05 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

i think back to the days of tty and my dads old tty machine in the
basement radio shack - brings back some memories ill tell you what.
damn thing was a big as a freakin' house.


There was a unique aroma to them also, probably related to the
lubricant used on them. They were certainly a marvel of
electromechanical complexity.


RCE January 30th 06 08:14 PM

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:37:05 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

i think back to the days of tty and my dads old tty machine in the
basement radio shack - brings back some memories ill tell you what.
damn thing was a big as a freakin' house.


There was a unique aroma to them also, probably related to the
lubricant used on them. They were certainly a marvel of
electromechanical complexity.


I attended the Mod 28 Teletype repair school in the Navy. After learning
theory, etc., the final test was to completely - and I mean completely
disassemble one, the instructor then inspected to make sure it was all
apart - cams, everything. We then had to put it all back together, adjust
all the timing cams and put it on line to prove that it still worked.
I still have my "Doctor of Teletype Technology" card that they awarded at
graduation.

RCE



Calif Bill January 31st 06 06:58 AM

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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 14:03:48 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:37:05 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

i think back to the days of tty and my dads old tty machine in the
basement radio shack - brings back some memories ill tell you what.
damn thing was a big as a freakin' house.


There was a unique aroma to them also, probably related to the
lubricant used on them. They were certainly a marvel of
electromechanical complexity.


the odd thing was my dad could keep the thing running and he had about
zero mechanical aptitude.

when it was running, man, the racket it made - it was a very cool
machine though.


But which KSR? coolest moment with teletypes was I worked in Western
Electric warehouse right after high school. Watched a KSR35 fall off the
pallet. Unfortunately the pallet was on a forklift truck at maximum
extension. About 35'. Parts everywhere.



Calif Bill January 31st 06 07:02 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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I've been using the "handle" "Eisboch" since my early days on the
net back in 1989 or '90. I had a super modern 286 computer, 13mhz
clock speed and a huge hard drive with 20 mbytes of storage space.
It ran on DOS with a pre-MSWindows software suite called "GeoWorks".
GeoWorks actually had a windows type format and even included a word
processing program called "GeoWrite". I signed onto an internet
access through Prodigy and was heavily involved in some of the midi
sequencing groups and "chat" rooms. You had to have a screen name,
so I became "Eisboch" because I happened to be drinking a Coors
Eisboch blend that night.

Anyway, it's time to retire the handle. Mrs.E thinks it's stupid,
and I am getting kind of tired of it anyway.

From now on I shall be known as ......

"Sam Adams"

Just kidding.

RCE




Nice to meet you, Mr. RCE.
You started with one of them fancy high-powered 286's of which I
could only dream! I started with the 8086 xt and a 20, yes 20, MB
HDD. I loved my DOS; I didn't understand why people needed all that
Mac and Windows nonsense. DOS: just tell your computer what to do
and it did it! Simple as that. Remember when the excitement of
opening a gif meant starting the process and coming back after dinner
to see if the gif had finished filling in all the pixels? I actually
started with an Apple (was it IIC?), encountered a mac in grad
school, and switched to the DOS world when I couldn't find a mac
program that could handle the graphical representation (believe it or
not) of my lab data. Boy that was a long time ago!


It is. My super fast "Pal" 286 even ran CADD 1, an early cad design
program. CADD was developed through version 6 as a DOS only program
then was bought out by Autodesk (Autocad). CADD was recently
re-introduced in a Windows version and I just downloaded a copy. It's
like old times.

The Pal had a normal clock speed of 8 mhz, but had a "turbo" button
that, when pushed, took it to a lightning fast 13 mhz.

RCE


I started out on the Internet with a DEC PDP. Probably an 11/05 but
maybe an 11/34. Still have a great spicy peanut noodle recipe printed
on dot matrix printer. When it was a text only world. Except for
ascii art.


I forgot all about dot matrix printers. I realized the other day that
my kids have no idea about the punch cards!


You want some. I still got a couple of thousand. We use them for note
cards by the phone. No holes in them.


Thanks, Bill. I think I'll pass on the generous offer. My wife is an RN
so our home is filled with pads of paper from pharmaceutical vendors.


Poor kids. No pity when they get sick. ;(
Son of an RN, who at 91 still has her license. Works 1 day a week at a rest
home.




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