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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
This memo is being sent to WAMBE & RBAW members because of your
interest in boating safety. If you would like off this list, please let me know. Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing". She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. For info on bill language go to: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6364 The hearing for this bill is on February 1st in Olympia. Unfortunately it's at 8 AM, however Sen. Roach would like to have as many boaters as possible show up to support this bill. RBAW supports this bill and it's intent. There may be discussions to amend the bill for word smithing purposes to clarify the term "teak surfing", but all for the better. Clearly this is a bill all boating safety organizations should have interest in and your participation at the hearing would be welcomed by the bill's supporters. RBAW plans to be there on the 1st. If anybody else can make it and needs further information, directions, etc. please let me know. If you want to testify PRO, you can say a few words why you or your organization likes the bill. Otherwise, you can just sign in PRO "not wanting to testify". Thanks and let me know if any questions. ~David Kutz RBAW President |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:53:26 -0500, Reggie Smithers
wrote: wrote: This memo is being sent to WAMBE & RBAW members because of your interest in boating safety. If you would like off this list, please let me know. Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing". She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. For info on bill language go to: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6364 The hearing for this bill is on February 1st in Olympia. Unfortunately it's at 8 AM, however Sen. Roach would like to have as many boaters as possible show up to support this bill. RBAW supports this bill and it's intent. There may be discussions to amend the bill for word smithing purposes to clarify the term "teak surfing", but all for the better. Clearly this is a bill all boating safety organizations should have interest in and your participation at the hearing would be welcomed by the bill's supporters. RBAW plans to be there on the 1st. If anybody else can make it and needs further information, directions, etc. please let me know. If you want to testify PRO, you can say a few words why you or your organization likes the bill. Otherwise, you can just sign in PRO "not wanting to testify". Thanks and let me know if any questions. ~David Kutz RBAW President Chuck, I am concerned that the State of Washington is trying to override Darwin's theories. One should not mess with Mother Nature. I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'? -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing".
She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: oh for petes sake - another do-gooder who wants to save people from themselves. No, they want to give people more tickets. do they seriously think a law is going to stop this type of activity? ill bet there is a fine attached to this - just another revenue raiser for the state. another useless piece of legislation. If it raises revenue, then how can it be useless? I say let them give expensive tickets to stupid & destructive people, then they can lower my taxes. DSK |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
"JohnH" wrote in message
... I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'? -- John H People grab onto the swim platform, often teak, and hang on as the boat pulls them through the water. They're breathing fumes, so they sometimes get carbon monoxide poisoning. If we're lucky and they're kids, they die and their parents are less likely to reproduce again. The wife blames the husband for doing something so stupid. She divorces him. Because of the alimony, he can't afford the boat any more, so one less moron is out there in a boat. |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 25 Jan 2006 19:16:40 -0800, wrote: Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing". She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. oh for petes sake - another do-gooder who wants to save people from themselves. do they seriously think a law is going to stop this type of activity? ill bet there is a fine attached to this - just another revenue raiser for the state. another useless piece of legislation. Actually, not just "another piece of useless legislation" designed to generate fines. Right now, if a cop sees some 16 year old kid running a boat while some 14 or 15 year old is teak surfing, about all the cop can do is pull them over and give them a lecture about safety. Of course once the cop is out of sight, the allure of teak surfing is immediately tripled, because not only is it some sort of fun, but now it's also borderline dangerous *and* it ****es off the cops. If there's a law, the cops can go as far as arresting the operator, if need be, to see that the teak surfing stops. There's a difference between being mentally defective ("should be removed from the gene pool") and uninformed. A lot of teak surfers are probably kids who don't ordinarily spend a lot of time around boats, and when "all" their friends are doing it they just assume it's a normal activity. Here's hoping you never answer a knock on your door to learn that a kid or a grandkid was killed while doing something others would consider "stupid". My bet is that the last thought to cross your mind would be, "Oh, well. If they were that stupid they didn't deserve to live in the first place and it's a good thing they died before they could reproduce." We're talking actual lives here, not some abstract talk show platitude. |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 10:20:32 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 06:53:26 -0500, Reggie Smithers wrote: wrote: This memo is being sent to WAMBE & RBAW members because of your interest in boating safety. If you would like off this list, please let me know. Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing". She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. For info on bill language go to: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6364 The hearing for this bill is on February 1st in Olympia. Unfortunately it's at 8 AM, however Sen. Roach would like to have as many boaters as possible show up to support this bill. RBAW supports this bill and it's intent. There may be discussions to amend the bill for word smithing purposes to clarify the term "teak surfing", but all for the better. Clearly this is a bill all boating safety organizations should have interest in and your participation at the hearing would be welcomed by the bill's supporters. RBAW plans to be there on the 1st. If anybody else can make it and needs further information, directions, etc. please let me know. If you want to testify PRO, you can say a few words why you or your organization likes the bill. Otherwise, you can just sign in PRO "not wanting to testify". Thanks and let me know if any questions. ~David Kutz RBAW President Chuck, I am concerned that the State of Washington is trying to override Darwin's theories. One should not mess with Mother Nature. I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'? -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** Hanging onto the swim platform and body surfing while the boat is pulling you. You can die by inhaling engine fumes, and I suppose you can also have a prop encounter. Stupid is as stupid does. Thanks. -- John H ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
I'll bite. What the hell is 'teak surfing'? -- An activity usually done by young wakeboarding types, although often in the presence of folks much older that you would assume to be wiser as well. You would be wrong about that assumption. The name comes from the material that swim platforms tend to be made of that are attached to competition style wakeboarding and ski boats that are oh so in vogue these days. These types of boats are most commonly used for teak surfing, although theoretically any powerboat could get the job done with equally disastrous results. The activity involves hanging on to the swim platform with both hands while in the water. The helmsman then brings the boat up to a slow plane, and the "surfer" then body surfs as he hangs on for dear life to the swim platform. Unfortunately, dear life often is fleeting as a result of this exercise, due to two complications that seem to evade any premonition of their consequences by all participants involved. First, the teak surfer's nostrils are usually no more than about 24 inches away from the through transom exhaust ports that the above mentioned type of boats tend to sport. You will recall that said boat is now at speed, spewing copious amounts of carbon monoxide in the general direction of the surfer's nostrils. Second, the wearing of a PFD tends to munge the flow of water under to soon to be stone cold body of the surfer, thereby hindering the body surfacing experience. Therefore, teak surfing and the wearing of a PFD are mutually exclusive. This tends to make the inevitable consequence of complication #1, namely unconsciousness, even more problematic as the surfer tends to go directly to the bottom, depriving all aboard any opportunity to get a good look at his blue self. It also tends to make recovery of the surfer a real bitch, usually best left to a professional dive team. Now some may consider this sequence of events a genuine tragedy, and others may look at it as a natural freshening of the gene pool. But there is an unfortunate side effect of this nonsense that I believe we all would agree is tragic. Since the perpetrators/victims of teak surfing (call 'em as you see 'em) are typical Americans, there is a compulsory denial of self responsibility for their actions. Surely the fault lies elsewhere, rather than with the owner/operator of the boat or the person lying on the bottom of the lake. And who better to find the true bearer of this guilt than a personal injury attorney? Not surprising, and without exception, the PI attorney's keen sense of smell for dollars always leads directly to the door of the marine industry. This has resulted in numerous lawsuits against the companies that manufacture the boats and motors that the rest of seem to enjoy on a regular basis without loss of life. One grieving and vengeful mother of a deceased young surfer publicly decried that the marine industry was in the business of making "murder machines". There are two immediate results of these lawsuits. First, the tremendous cost of defending them gets passed along to the consumer in the form of higher prices. Second the next new boat you buy will be plastered with ugly and obnoxious stickers everywhere, warning of the dangers of carbon monoxide poisoning as well as hanging on to the swim platform of a boat under way. I am not making any of this up. It's the real deal. |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
wrote in message ups.com... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 25 Jan 2006 19:16:40 -0800, wrote: Senator Pam Roach has sponsored Senate Bill 6364 to ban "teak surfing". She was prompted by one of her constituent organizations, the East Pierce County Fire and Rescue. This agency had dealt with two tragic deaths on Lake Tapps due to teak surfing. oh for petes sake - another do-gooder who wants to save people from themselves. do they seriously think a law is going to stop this type of activity? ill bet there is a fine attached to this - just another revenue raiser for the state. another useless piece of legislation. Actually, not just "another piece of useless legislation" designed to generate fines. Right now, if a cop sees some 16 year old kid running a boat while some 14 or 15 year old is teak surfing, about all the cop can do is pull them over and give them a lecture about safety. Of course once the cop is out of sight, the allure of teak surfing is immediately tripled, because not only is it some sort of fun, but now it's also borderline dangerous *and* it ****es off the cops. If there's a law, the cops can go as far as arresting the operator, if need be, to see that the teak surfing stops. There's a difference between being mentally defective ("should be removed from the gene pool") and uninformed. A lot of teak surfers are probably kids who don't ordinarily spend a lot of time around boats, and when "all" their friends are doing it they just assume it's a normal activity. Here's hoping you never answer a knock on your door to learn that a kid or a grandkid was killed while doing something others would consider "stupid". My bet is that the last thought to cross your mind would be, "Oh, well. If they were that stupid they didn't deserve to live in the first place and it's a good thing they died before they could reproduce." We're talking actual lives here, not some abstract talk show platitude. Very well said. Also it is going to protect the marine industry from bounty hunter lawsuits. If you are breaking the law, will be harder to collect for the persons stupidity or ignorance. |
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Bill to ban "teak surfing" introduced in WA State
"Fred Dehl" wrote in message ... wrote in ups.com: Right now, if a cop sees some 16 year old kid running a boat while some 14 or 15 year old is teak surfing... Here's hoping you never answer a knock on your door to learn that a kid or a grandkid was killed while doing something others would consider "stupid". Why would I permit unsupervised minors to operate a boat? Happens all the time. However, excluding jet skis for the moment, I actually see more dangerous things done by so-called adults. |
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