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Lighten up folks: A Revisit of the *Challenge*
Skipper wrote: wrote: Skipper wrote: Do you believe your admonition will moderate his behavior, Chuck? Does he *ever* post about boats or boating? Do you really think he has the capacity to ever 'get it'? The sad reality is that some are not here for on-topic discussions. The cruising NG has found the right answer for these mindless trolls...and that should be the goal for this forum. Simple solutions are best, IMO. I'm pretty distressed to hear that my philosophical disagreement with JimH about the best course for rec.boats to take reads as an "admonition". It wasn't intended to be. ad·mo·ni·tion n. 1- Mild, kind, yet earnest reproof. 2- Cautionary advice or warning. Middle English amonicioun, from Old French amonition, from Latin admonitio, admonition-, from admonitus, past participle of admonere, to admonish. Sorry to see you take this mendacious tack again, Chuck. Your post was clearly a veiled admonition to JimH. Old habits, huh? Jim has every right to express his opinion. I have every right to disagree. JimH presents as obtuse. Suppose that's not a crime, but his 30 or so daily mindless musings only clutter and degrade the NG, IMO. As he points out, as long as we avoid personal insults and name calling, that's not such a bad thing. You contend he avoids the personal insults? Take a closer look...or check out a.politics. My reference was to this specific post, where he did indeed avoid any name calling or personal insults. If somebody is behaving differently in a different group, that's not actually an issue in rec.boats. I've never visited a.politics, but it sounds like a great sounding board for the type of posts and posting styles that until very recently prevailed in this group. The problem is that history proves again and again that the mix of personalities in rec.boats (and in most NG's if you look around) *cannot* discuss a wide range of subjects without devolving to some pretty nasty behaviors. Perhaps its a sign of the times, and there are a lot of muddy skirts around in this regard.....certainly including my own. I believe it's a sign that some just don't have the ability or bent to discuss boats and boating to the degree of their 'contributions' here. They simply go that route to mask their boating ignorance. Well, there's ignorance and then there's differences of opinion. One thing that it has taken me a lifetime to learn, and most days I am probably still working on it some, is that the people who don't agree with me on a lot of things aren't underinformed, misinformed, or stupid (most of the time)... they have simply looked at questions where there might be more than one workable answer and maybe no absolutes and for whatever reasons decided that some answer other than the one I might prefer is the most appealing. If we want to be a useful newsgroup, we may have to settle for fewer total posts per day in order to attract a greater number of particpants and posts. As we were, we were seeing example after example of new people coming to the group, making a post or two, and then (presumably) running for the exit holding their cyber noses. Who can blame them? And as I stated above, we must follow the example set in the cruising NG if we're going to be successful in having a useful forum. Don't they say that futility is the practice of continuing to do the same old thing while expecting different results? Yes, they do. -- Skipper |
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