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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 16:02:39 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:
Skipper, ask Skipper if he smokes pot. I think they call it loco weed in Kansas. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote:
It seems that he also expects to find one ready to go (with MINOR mods). Totally unrealistic of course. If this were school, you wouldn't be pleased with your grade...of Course. -- Skipper |
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It seems that he also expects to find one ready to go (with MINOR mods).
"Wayne.B" wrote: Totally unrealistic of course. Skipper wrote: If this were school, you wouldn't be pleased with your grade...of Course. What a condescending butt-head. Wayne is doing the kind of cruising you were wasting Chuck's time daydreaming about. I guess you're in a position to give him a grade, all right. DSK |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... Skipper wrote: wrote: In that same vein, had Skipper posted info about his boat or ANY subject boat, the info would only fuel more mindless flames. After all, that is all some 'contributors' bring to the table these days. -- Skipper Why are you talking about yourself in the third person? (insert Twilight Theme) loco weed Eisboch |
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 17:31:31 -0600, Skipper wrote:
If this were school, you wouldn't be pleased with your grade...of Course. Since I recently purchased a used boat in your stated size range, after looking at countless others, and doing the necessary upgrades, I believe that some claim to first hand knowledge is appropriate. Your mileage may vary but I doubt it. I think the closest you'll get in your price range is an old clapped out sailboat that needs a ton of work. And then you'll need to learn how to sail it. Go to Ft Lauderdale which has more used boats for sale than any other place that I know. There are always some Cal 2-46s available. This is a boat that has crossed oceans and circumnavigated more than anyone can count, and you can buy them for $100K or less if you shop around. We looked at a couple. They were all in need of major refits: new engine, new genset, new rigging, new sails, new electronics, canvas, you name it, plus major cosmetic work. Talk to anyone who has done that kind of work on a 46 footer and you will be staggered by the price. |
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Wayne.B wrote:
Since I recently purchased a used boat in your stated size range, after looking at countless others, and doing the necessary upgrades, I believe that some claim to first hand knowledge is appropriate. Your mileage may vary but I doubt it. I think the closest you'll get in your price range is an old clapped out sailboat that needs a ton of work. And then you'll need to learn how to sail it. I dunno about that, although I do think Skippie has been very unrealistic in his demands and cretinously harsh in his approbation of others. I also get a laugh out of the picture of him trying to learn to sail. Go to Ft Lauderdale which has more used boats for sale than any other place that I know. There are always some Cal 2-46s available. This is a boat that has crossed oceans and circumnavigated more than anyone can count, and you can buy them for $100K or less if you shop around. We looked at a couple. They were all in need of major refits: new engine, new genset, new rigging, new sails, new electronics, canvas, you name it, plus major cosmetic work. Talk to anyone who has done that kind of work on a 46 footer and you will be staggered by the price. I bet he can't even guess the ballpark of what it would cost to replace the charger/starter cables, or why you would want to. However, trying to be fair, I did take a quick look at some of the offerings on Yachtworld.com and was pretty surprised at the pickings... yes, lots of 30yo clapped-out sportfishers and 40yo clapped-out (and rotted) Chris-Crafts... but also some boats that might offer some potential for Skipper *if* he had realistic expectations about what it costs toown & operate such a boat... like fuel cost, for example... There were some interesting converted working craft, too, genuine North Sea motor fishing vessels or classic tugs. 54' Bluewater Flying Bridge Sedan * Year: 1981 * Current Price: US$ 159,995 * Located in Halls Crossing, UT * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1344412 53' Dyna (YF) * Year: 2003 * Current Price: US$ 177,000 * Located in Hong Kong * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin 53' Skookhum Pilot House * Year: 1979 * Current Price: US$ 175,000 * Located in Phuket, Thailand * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1384866 this one is more of a motorsailer, save on fuel... until you have to buy new sails or running rigging... 52' cutter motorship * Year: 2000 * Current Price: EUR 92,500 (US$ 112,203) * Located in Middenmeer, Holland (Netherlands) * Hull Material: Steel * Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1467841 52' Champion Yachts Taiwan Champion 52 * Year: 1992 * Current Price: US$ 174,000 * Located in Hong Kong * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1465963 52' Steel Ex Research Vessel * Year: 1957 * Current Price: US$ 140,000 * Located in MI, United States * Hull Material: Steel * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1483393 50' Bestway Cockpit Motoryacht * Year: 1985 * Current Price: US$ 185,000 * Located in San Diego, CA * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Diesel "This vessel has just returned from a two-year cruise in the Sea of Cortez. Inspiration offers the ultimate in comfort and safety." http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1343096 50' Sintes LRC 1981/2003 * Year: 1981 * Current Price: US$ 159,000 * Located in New Orleans, LA * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Single Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1332387 49' Albin Tri-Cabin * Year: 1980 * Current Price: US$ 129,000 * Located in St. Petersburg, FL * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1472603 So when are you leaving, Skip? DSK |
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 21:33:56 -0500, DSK wrote:
49' Albin Tri-Cabin * Year: 1980 * Current Price: US$ 129,000 * Located in St. Petersburg, FL * Hull Material: Fiberglass * Engine/Fuel Type: Twin Diesel http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi..._boats=1472603 Quoting from the listing: "She is priced below market to reflect some deck repairs which will be necessary." Not a good thing, and if the deck needs repair what kind of maintenance have those Ford Lehmans and the two gensets been getting? And what about those black iron fuel tanks that are so famous for rusting out? My guess is well over $50K to get it ship shape, probably closer to $100K if you want everthing done right. The Skookum in Thailand is another interesting listing since the Skook is a proven world cruiser, and has long been an object of Snipper's affection. Good ones are going for around $300K so we can probably infer that the one in Phuket has other issues besides an inconvenient location. They have one other minor drawback: a draft of 8 feet which can get you hard aground almost anywhere you choose. |
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DSK wrote:
So when are you leaving, Skip? DSK His mind left a long time ago. His body can't get up off the couch to follow. |
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:10:50 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: That's not such a bad thing; a deep draft will keep Skipper way offshore. Yep. We should award him a few points for getting a lively on topic discussion going, with a minimum of personal invective. And if being an opinionated and cantankerous old coot was worth anything, he'd be well into the bonus round. |
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