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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd. This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

On a related note, I read recently that mad cow disease has been found in
deer and elk out west. I don't recall the means of infection, but it was
very simple. Happy hunting. Time to become vegetarians soon.




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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how
to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon


Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that is,
but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease? Others?
Enlighten me.


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Mad cow disease is caused by prions.


Madcow disease was cured in this NG about 4 years ago.

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Mad cow disease is caused by prions.


Madcow disease was cured in this NG about 4 years ago.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how
to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon


Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease found
in sheep, that does not cross over.




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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on
how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon


Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease
found in sheep, that does not cross over.


What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You haven't
answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which describe
the research on these non-issue diseases.


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on
how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease
found in sheep, that does not cross over.


What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You haven't
answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which describe
the research on these non-issue diseases.


The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery
trout has screwed up more than one lake.


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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or

cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on
how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell.

However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what

that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the

meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not

eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease
found in sheep, that does not cross over.


What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You haven't
answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which

describe
the research on these non-issue diseases.


The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery
trout has screwed up more than one lake.



Wild fish can infect farm fish and vice versa. The feed has antibiotics
in it to protect the farmed fish. If that bothers you, then so should
commercially grown chicken, beef, and all farm crops. Remember DDT and alar?
Gordon


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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or

cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail
on
how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell.

However,
if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what

that
is, but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the

meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused
by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not

eat
it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease?
Others? Enlighten me.


The Mad Cow prions seem to affect man. There is another prion disease
found in sheep, that does not cross over.


What about the fish diseases which you claim to be nonsense? You
haven't
answered that question. I'm going to need to see some cites which

describe
the research on these non-issue diseases.


The fish diseases affect the wild fish. Whirling disease from hatchery
trout has screwed up more than one lake.



Wild fish can infect farm fish and vice versa. The feed has antibiotics
in it to protect the farmed fish. If that bothers you, then so should
commercially grown chicken, beef, and all farm crops. Remember DDT and
alar?
Gordon



DDT, was actually benign to humans, just screwed up the reproduction of
birds. Thin eggs. I do not like all the antibiotics and hormones in
animals. Seen the young ladies these days? When you see a 10 year old,
that is as developed as the 15 year olds of the late 1950's when I was 15,
you can see that things are not good. Alar, is a bogus answer. Sure the
wild can give disease to the farm raised, but more likely the other way.
And since farm animal byproducts are part of farm raised fish food, you get
a double dose of the hormones and other drugs. Besides I like to catch
salmon, but do not care to eat them. Plus it is an extremely dirty,
polluting business.


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"Gordon" wrote in message
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The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how
to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon


Sick fish are a major concern. The sick get into the wild and spread alien
to the region disease. The farm raised salmon are Atlantic salmon, and
being raised on the west coast bring other disease to the pacific salmon.
The massive decline in Southern California abalone was from Japanese abalone
that were planted by an abalone farm, spreading "withering food" disease.
And those sardines that were fed to cows are changed to different formula by
the cow.




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