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Gordon January 18th 06 06:21 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild fish
only! What the ^%$&?
And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse
effects?
Gordon

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thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.



Doug Kanter January 18th 06 06:26 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild
fish
only! What the ^%$&?


One reason might be one which is supposedly being dealt with: Any time
animals are kept in more crowded conditions than is natural for them,
disease spreads more quickly. I've read that there were (may still be?)
issues with diseased fish escaping farm operations in large enough numbers
to have an adverse effect on local wild populations. Perhaps people are
thinking of this when they say "don't eat farm raised fish".

On the other hand, wild fish populations are dwindling, so for certain
species, it makes sense to leave them alone and eat the farm raised version.
You just can't win with this issue, ya know?


And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse
effects?
Gordon


Those filthy Canadians! I knew there was a reason they should be on our list
for invasion.

While we're pondering the unanswerable: When the batteries in the TV remote
are getting weak, why do we press harder on the buttons?



Doug Kanter January 18th 06 06:36 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 

"Commodore Joe Redcloud©" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:26:41 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:


"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks
of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild
fish
only! What the ^%$&?


One reason might be one which is supposedly being dealt with: Any time
animals are kept in more crowded conditions than is natural for them,
disease spreads more quickly. I've read that there were (may still be?)
issues with diseased fish escaping farm operations in large enough numbers
to have an adverse effect on local wild populations.


The diseased fish that don't escape get served for dinner, along with
the healthy ones which have been pumped full of steroids, growth
hormones and anti-biotics. They also get fed pellets made with mad cow
infected beef.

Mmmm... Tasty!


Commodore Joe Redcloud©


On a related note, I read recently that mad cow disease has been found in
deer and elk out west. I don't recall the means of infection, but it was
very simple. Happy hunting. Time to become vegetarians soon.



Calif Bill January 18th 06 08:24 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild
fish
only! What the ^%$&?
And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse
effects?
Gordon

--

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.



Because of the feed for the farm raised fish. They are eating beef and pork
animal by products. So the fish do not have the healthy Omega 3 oil levels.
Plus disease, and all the concentrated poop they swim in.



[email protected] January 18th 06 08:45 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 

Gordon wrote:
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild fish
only! What the ^%$&?
And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse
effects?
Gordon


cite?


Calif Bill January 18th 06 10:18 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 

wrote in message
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Gordon wrote:
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild
fish
only! What the ^%$&?
And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no adverse
effects?
Gordon


cite?


Do a google. Lots of info on a major city without a sewage treatment plant.



Gordon January 18th 06 11:07 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 
The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd. This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon

On a related note, I read recently that mad cow disease has been found in
deer and elk out west. I don't recall the means of infection, but it was
very simple. Happy hunting. Time to become vegetarians soon.





Gordon January 18th 06 11:12 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 
Would you believe the same foods are fed to both cattle and farmed fish?
Large masses of small sardine type fishes are caught in the southern oceans
and are processed as animal food, high in proteins etc.
And the poop falls to the sea floor which actually makes a fertile
seafloor with good crabbing !
Gordon

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Gordon" wrote in message
...
Why is it a good thing to eat wild commercially caught salmon and a bad
thing to eat farmed salmon?
Here in Washington State, we spend millions to enhance streams, reverse
erosion, stop cows from peeing in creeks, etc to save dwindling stocks

of
wild salmon and at the same time, conservationists tell us to eat wild
fish
only! What the ^%$&?
And while I'm at it, why do people go nuts when there is a minor sewage
spill yet the city of Victoria Canada can dump 34 million gallons of
untreated sewage per DAY into the Straits of Juan de Fuca with no

adverse
effects?
Gordon

--

Ask not for whom the terrorist bell tolls; it tolls for thee, and thee,
and
thee--for decent, innocent people everywhere.



Because of the feed for the farm raised fish. They are eating beef and

pork
animal by products. So the fish do not have the healthy Omega 3 oil

levels.
Plus disease, and all the concentrated poop they swim in.





Doug Kanter January 18th 06 11:27 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 
"Gordon" wrote in message
...
The disease in deer and elk is called chronic wasting disease or cwd.
This
sounds better than the infamous "mad cow disease", however they are
closely
related. I hunted Colorado this fall and they go into great detail on how
to
safely handle the meat. To date, there are no known cases of humans
contacting the disease.
As for diseased fish, thats all nonsense as far as I can tell. However, if
someone read it on the internet, it must be true!
Gordon


Mad cow disease is caused by prions. I'm not totally clear on what that is,
but diseased meat cannot be made safe by cooking, unless the meat's
incinerated beyond the point of being edible. If CWD is also caused by
prions, there is no way to safely handle the meat other than to not eat it.

As far as fish diseases, which ones are nonsense? Whirling disease? Others?
Enlighten me.



Skipper January 18th 06 11:33 PM

Wild salmon vs farmed
 

Mad cow disease is caused by prions.


Madcow disease was cured in this NG about 4 years ago.

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Skipper


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