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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 17:52:39 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 05:02:16 GMT, "Bryan"
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:54:35 GMT, "Bryan"
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:17:16 GMT, "Bryan"
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On 12 Jan 2006 13:46:28 -0800, wrote:

An American Deluxe with SCN pickups, Tobacco Sunburst color, looks
alot
like Stevie Ray Vaughn's, only not as beat up

you have a '56 strat?

no offense, but i don't believe it. there can't be more than ten of
those left in the world.

i have a '65 strat in golden sunburst with humbuckers which is
pretty
rare.

Unless I'm missing some post's which occurs on occasion, he said he
had
"a
real one," not an original or or 56. A real one to me implies made in
America vs the asian versions. The SCN pickups imply a 2004 or later,
but
I
don't know if SCN's were available before 2004.

a real one would imply a pre-cbs strat - those are real ones.

Well, Shortwave, some of us would just be happy to own a strat made in
America. To us, that would be a real one. Still, I understand your
version
of real versus my version of real. When I go into the store to see if I
can
buy my daughter a strat, I have three choices. A modern strat made in
America or in an Asian country or a vintage $trat. I can afford the one
made in an Asian country. I didn't buy her one, because I couldn't
justify
the price of the one I would want (and I was pretty sure she would last
as
long with guitar lessons as she did with piano lessons). Still, I was
sorely tempted to find a way to buy her one that I would want!

if you are talking strats, real strats are the pre-cbs strats. the
post cbs strats were mostly junk. however, the recent reproduction
strats and even a few of the asian ones are fairly decent guitars -
much better than the cbs versions.

hey, get what you can afford - the object is to have fun. i bought my
strat in '65 when i was playing in what is now called a garage band
that made it big on a local basis. over the years, ive collected a
few - a blue mosrite (the guitar the ventures made famous), a clear
acrylic danelectro bass, a '65 gretsch country gentleman autographed
by chet akins, - which is a whole story in an of itself - and an
original fender telecaster. i also have a custom made ovation
ballader which i bought in '85 during my acoustic phase along with a
gibson banjo and a dulcimer i built.

Glad you stayed with the art. I miss my old Takamine; was it an F 360? I
can't remember, but that number just popped into my head. I played bass.
I
also miss my Rickenbacker 4003 basses (Natural, Black, and White).

What makes a strat made today not a real strat? Why are pre-cbs strats
the
only real strats and today's are just reproductions?

its really snobbery of the worst kind actually, but pre-cbs fender
quitars are considered more - real - than the cbs versions. cbs bought
fender in '65 and started producing in '66 - anything post '65 build
by cbs wasn't a - quality - strat. cbs sold fender in '82 or '83 to
some private investors and since then, they have increased their
presence in the market place and started once again to build a quality
guitar.

so as i said - it's really snobbery - from what ive seen, the new
strats, even a few of the aisan ones, are really nice guitars and are
as - real - as another, but not - real - in the sense that they were
built by leo fender.

Some of the snobbery may come from simple observation. Before I continue, it
should be obvious that I have no idea how well adjusted a brand new strat
would've been, if you picked one up in a store in 1958. But today, Fender
basses come out of the box with necks so out of whack that they're almost
unplayable. I thought of buying one before I got my Peavey a year ago. The
dealer had about 50 Fender P & J basses. I couldn't find a single one with a
properly adjusted neck. This included both the Mexican- and American-made
ones. That makes a really bad impression. Meanwhile, pick up a Peavey,
Spector, Alembic or any number of other brands across a wide price range,
and they arrive at the store adjusted within at a range that most players
would call "sane".

my ovation, when i bought, was out of whack - guy tuned the neck for
me in about five minutes.

My Ovation was the same way, the strings were almost touching the
fretboard close to the nut.

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