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"-rick-" wrote in message ... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: nothing like that transformer sound. It's interesting how the old tube amps with output transformers were pretty bad in terms of bandwidth and fidelity yet had more pleasing distortion, especially when pushed hard and the non-linear speaker load reflected back to the output tubes and the wimpy tube rectifier power supply started sagging. It makes a pretty complex system when combined with room acoustics, guitar resonances, and multiple feedback paths. Theres been a lot of work on DSP emulation and modeling that so far I've not found nearly as satisfying but it's sure nice to be able to come close at low volume. oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. -rick- Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:11:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:05:46 -0800, -rick- wrote: oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. if the seahawks are the best of the nfc, the nfc is gonna lose another one. The Seahawks were the second best. We got robbed. Obvious pass interference in the end zone. Chicken refs. Paid off. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:11:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:05:46 -0800, -rick- wrote: oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. if the seahawks are the best of the nfc, the nfc is gonna lose another one. The Seahawks were the second best. We got robbed. Obvious pass interference in the end zone. Chicken refs. Paid off. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** Oh my. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:11:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:05:46 -0800, -rick- wrote: oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. if the seahawks are the best of the nfc, the nfc is gonna lose another one. The Seahawks were the second best. We got robbed. Obvious pass interference in the end zone. Chicken refs. Paid off. -- John H http://tinyurl.com/8bgks Come on John. Be a gracious loser. The Redskins have nothing to be ashamed of and I am sure you enjoyed the past 19 weeks watching them play. ;-) |
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I've3 been playing bass guitar for 35 years (man! time flies!!!) I wish i had taken guitar lesson's when I was a kid, it would have made learning bass a whole lot easier. But I suppose I do ok.... |
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DSK wrote: It's true that there's a fine line between having a hobby and being obsessed. Regards Doug King I'm obsessed! I own 72 bass's. Why? I'm trying to find the "perfect one....LOL! I have anythig from Squiers to Alembics... It's hard to beat an on Fender J-bass though. And If I hear any more crap about "real" Strats I'll bop you over the head with my Fender arch-top... yes it's acoustic... or if really annoyed will use my Gibson. Right now I'm really digging a Squier Precision Special 5-string. For a super cheap instrument, it plays great. No, it's not a "real Fender" put plays better than many. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:23:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "-rick-" wrote in message ... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: nothing like that transformer sound. It's interesting how the old tube amps with output transformers were pretty bad in terms of bandwidth and fidelity yet had more pleasing distortion, especially when pushed hard and the non-linear speaker load reflected back to the output tubes and the wimpy tube rectifier power supply started sagging. It makes a pretty complex system when combined with room acoustics, guitar resonances, and multiple feedback paths. Theres been a lot of work on DSP emulation and modeling that so far I've not found nearly as satisfying but it's sure nice to be able to come close at low volume. oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. -rick- Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. being a sufferer of perfect pitch, i can tell when something is distorted or out of tune with reasonable accuracy. i almost never listen to anything loud and i dont attend concerts for much the same reason - the sound can just turn into noise for me. then again, its a perfect excuse not to take the wife anywhere. Ummm....pitch is to distortion as kleenex are to pencil erasers. But never mind. |
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"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 14 Jan 2006 17:56:15 -0800, wrote: I've3 been playing bass guitar for 35 years (man! time flies!!!) I wish i had taken guitar lesson's when I was a kid, it would have made learning bass a whole lot easier. But I suppose I do ok.... if kanter can play bass, anybody can play bass. - that was a joke son - except for the kanter part - I am a bass monster. Even you might be able to appreciate it, although you might mistake it for a rogue wave about to swamp your boat. |
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wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. More useless info... As I recall the Carver "magnetic" amp (the cube?) was a bit of a misnomer. I think this design had a number of switching power supplies that produced a range of output voltages (+/-10V, +/-20V, +/-30V, etc. for example). The audio output was switched to the power supply that was most nearly equal to desired gain * input signal. A low power linear amp would then correct the residual error and switching glitches were reduced with a low pass filter. It was quite efficient and needed minimal heat sink but did have higher noise and distortion than most linear amps, not that I could hear it. Hearing sensitivity is intensity and frequency dependent as shown by the Fletcher-Munson curves which may explain the distortion results you noted. http://www.webervst.com/fm.htm The thing is I *want* the guitar amp to distort when pushed. But I want "nice" distortion, like Eric Johnson's 600lb violin sound. Hey, would that be a Srativarius? http://www.ericjohnson.com/ Maybe some day I'll find time to experiment with a low power tube amp and novel ways of crippling it. I have a recent Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (40 watt tube) and it's ok clean but way too loud to push the output stage and the preamp distortion on the overdrive channels is just nasty. -rick- -- 10-3 Denver at halftime, will the Pats come back? |
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"-rick-" wrote in message ... -- 10-3 Denver at halftime, will the Pats come back? Bad calls or not, the Pats are just not playing to their capacity. Must be the thin air. Eisboch |
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Doug Kanter wrote: wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Which Alembic do you own? a '77 Series 1 built by Michael Dolan and Rob Turner |
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-rick- wrote: Maybe some day I'll find time to experiment with a low power tube amp and novel ways of crippling it. -rick- you could always take a pocket knife to the speaker cones.. SNARF!!!! |
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Don White wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: i wonder how long i can keep this thread alive.... At the risk of sounding wimpy...... ever see some kind of finger thimble that a person could use to keep your fingers from touching two strings at once? I'm thinking of something plastic that would go over your 4 frettin' fingers. Tommy Iommi was the guitarist for Black Sabbath, and he lost a cople fingertips in a butcher shop meat saw. He tired fingertip prosthysis, but that didnt' work well because he couldn't feel the strings with his left hand. So... he did without them, and so far (almost 40 years) he's done pretty good for himself. |
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you have a '56 strat? Where to hell did I say I had an original '56 strat???????? no offense, but i don't believe it. there can't be more than ten of those left in the world. What would be even more rare would be an origional '54 Strat. That's the first year they were produced.... and only a few hand fulls at that. |
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Harry Krause wrote: I'm telling you, there's just nothing quite like rec.boats. There's no such thing as a STRATOVARIUS Violin, unless it exists as a joke. There are the many wonderful stringed instruments made by Antonio Stradivari, violins and cellos mostly, and these commonly are called Stradivarius instruments, because the maker used Latin to label his products, and "Latinized" his last name. And now, back to your regularly scheduled servings of misinformation... AND! Most of the Stradavari instruments weren't even made by him, but by his apprentices. Kind of like saying that Leo Fender made guitars. He didn't. he made electronics, but did come up with the designs for the then Broadcaster guitar the Strat was actually team designed between Freddie Tavares and George Fullerton, as well as then country western great Bill Carson Bill was the "test pilot" Leo's gig was the electronics. and his amps were mostly copies from Western Electric blueprints. Leo was shrewd..... Yo-Yo Ma, the renowned cellist, plays a Strad, not a Strat. His is the famous Davidov cello. He inherited it from the late. wonderful, and greatly missed Jacqueline du Pre. Ah, Jacqueline DuPre. One of the finest cellists of the 20 century! too bad MS claimed her at a young age of 42.... |
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wrote in message oups.com... Doug Kanter wrote: wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Which Alembic do you own? a '77 Series 1 built by Michael Dolan and Rob Turner My birthday's March 13th. Send it over, please. :-) The one with the separate blue power supply box? I used to have one of those. For a number of reasons, I stopped playing for a while. Sold it to add to the boat money pot. I never really got to enjoy it as much as I would now because I didn't have the time and focus to experiment with strings & various amps & cabinets. |
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:16:05 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT
comREMOVETHIS wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:11:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:05:46 -0800, -rick- wrote: oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. if the seahawks are the best of the nfc, the nfc is gonna lose another one. The Seahawks were the second best. We got robbed. Obvious pass interference in the end zone. Chicken refs. Paid off. -- John H http://tinyurl.com/8bgks Come on John. Be a gracious loser. The Redskins have nothing to be ashamed of and I am sure you enjoyed the past 19 weeks watching them play. ;-) Gracious? I told you I had big money on this game. Gracious, smacious. I get to whine. Inherent right and all that. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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JohnH wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:16:05 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudad@yahooDOT comREMOVETHIS wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:11:43 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:05:46 -0800, -rick- wrote: oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. if the seahawks are the best of the nfc, the nfc is gonna lose another one. The Seahawks were the second best. We got robbed. Obvious pass interference in the end zone. Chicken refs. Paid off. -- John H http://tinyurl.com/8bgks Come on John. Be a gracious loser. The Redskins have nothing to be ashamed of and I am sure you enjoyed the past 19 weeks watching them play. ;-) Gracious? I told you I had big money on this game. Gracious, smacious. I get to whine. Inherent right and all that. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** JohnH, It is more than an inherent right, it is your God Given Right as an American to bitch and complain anytime your team loses. Don't let anyone try to take away your rights. -- Reggie ************************************************** ********************* If you would like to make rec.boats an enjoyable place to discuss boating, please do not respond to the political and inflammatory off- topic posts and flames. ************************************************** ********************* |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:58:41 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:23:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "-rick-" wrote in message ... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: nothing like that transformer sound. It's interesting how the old tube amps with output transformers were pretty bad in terms of bandwidth and fidelity yet had more pleasing distortion, especially when pushed hard and the non-linear speaker load reflected back to the output tubes and the wimpy tube rectifier power supply started sagging. It makes a pretty complex system when combined with room acoustics, guitar resonances, and multiple feedback paths. Theres been a lot of work on DSP emulation and modeling that so far I've not found nearly as satisfying but it's sure nice to be able to come close at low volume. oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. -rick- Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. being a sufferer of perfect pitch, i can tell when something is distorted or out of tune with reasonable accuracy. i almost never listen to anything loud and i dont attend concerts for much the same reason - the sound can just turn into noise for me. then again, its a perfect excuse not to take the wife anywhere. There were three instances in the show last night when I winced because of a singer being 'off pitch' or 'off key'. Usually it was because they couldn't hold the note as long as they tried to hold it. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:58:41 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:23:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "-rick-" wrote in message ... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: nothing like that transformer sound. It's interesting how the old tube amps with output transformers were pretty bad in terms of bandwidth and fidelity yet had more pleasing distortion, especially when pushed hard and the non-linear speaker load reflected back to the output tubes and the wimpy tube rectifier power supply started sagging. It makes a pretty complex system when combined with room acoustics, guitar resonances, and multiple feedback paths. Theres been a lot of work on DSP emulation and modeling that so far I've not found nearly as satisfying but it's sure nice to be able to come close at low volume. oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. -rick- Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. being a sufferer of perfect pitch, i can tell when something is distorted or out of tune with reasonable accuracy. i almost never listen to anything loud and i dont attend concerts for much the same reason - the sound can just turn into noise for me. then again, its a perfect excuse not to take the wife anywhere. There were three instances in the show last night when I winced because of a singer being 'off pitch' or 'off key'. Usually it was because they couldn't hold the note as long as they tried to hold it. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** That's one of the main reasons I could never put up the opera my ex played on the stereo occasionally. There were only two singers who could actually hold a note long enough to not give me a headache: Pavarotti and Beverly Sills. The ex only owned two albums featuring those people. The rest of the music was useful for clearing a room, but not much else. |
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On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:43:04 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:58:41 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:23:21 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote: "-rick-" wrote in message ... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: nothing like that transformer sound. It's interesting how the old tube amps with output transformers were pretty bad in terms of bandwidth and fidelity yet had more pleasing distortion, especially when pushed hard and the non-linear speaker load reflected back to the output tubes and the wimpy tube rectifier power supply started sagging. It makes a pretty complex system when combined with room acoustics, guitar resonances, and multiple feedback paths. Theres been a lot of work on DSP emulation and modeling that so far I've not found nearly as satisfying but it's sure nice to be able to come close at low volume. oh crap, Moss just got a gift in the end zone. -rick- Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. being a sufferer of perfect pitch, i can tell when something is distorted or out of tune with reasonable accuracy. i almost never listen to anything loud and i dont attend concerts for much the same reason - the sound can just turn into noise for me. then again, its a perfect excuse not to take the wife anywhere. There were three instances in the show last night when I winced because of a singer being 'off pitch' or 'off key'. Usually it was because they couldn't hold the note as long as they tried to hold it. -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** That's one of the main reasons I could never put up the opera my ex played on the stereo occasionally. There were only two singers who could actually hold a note long enough to not give me a headache: Pavarotti and Beverly Sills. The ex only owned two albums featuring those people. The rest of the music was useful for clearing a room, but not much else. A few of them mistake themselves for bagpipes - that someone else has pumped up! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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Doug Kanter wrote: wrote in message oups.com... Doug Kanter wrote: wrote in message oups.com... DSK wrote: Which Alembic do you own? a '77 Series 1 built by Michael Dolan and Rob Turner My birthday's March 13th. Send it over, please. :-) The one with the separate blue power supply box? I used to have one of those. For a number of reasons, I stopped playing for a while. Sold it to add to the boat money pot. I never really got to enjoy it as much as I would now because I didn't have the time and focus to experiment with strings & various amps & cabinets. Doug, yes... it does have the Blue power box. I was thinking on sending it back to Alembic to have the LED's put in the fret markers, and give it a good fret dressing but the price quote of $1500.00 was a bit over the edge for me. as far as amps goes, any bass that gets taken to a good gig where some strength is needed, I play it through my Ampeg "Punisher" it's more than I need for about any occasion, otherwise they usually get routed through an SWR 4003 and a various host of cabinets. I ahve a Peavey 300 combo in the upstairs of our house for a practice "amp" |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:04:30 -0800, -rick- wrote: Eisboch wrote: Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. More useless info... As I recall the Carver "magnetic" amp (the cube?) was a bit of a misnomer. I think this design had a number of switching power supplies that produced a range of output voltages (+/-10V, +/-20V, +/-30V, etc. for example). The audio output was switched to the power supply that was most nearly equal to desired gain * input signal. A low power linear amp would then correct the residual error and switching glitches were reduced with a low pass filter. It was quite efficient and needed minimal heat sink but did have higher noise and distortion than most linear amps, not that I could hear it. Hearing sensitivity is intensity and frequency dependent as shown by the Fletcher-Munson curves which may explain the distortion results you noted. http://www.webervst.com/fm.htm The thing is I *want* the guitar amp to distort when pushed. But I want "nice" distortion, like Eric Johnson's 600lb violin sound. Hey, would that be a Srativarius? http://www.ericjohnson.com/ Maybe some day I'll find time to experiment with a low power tube amp and novel ways of crippling it. I have a recent Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (40 watt tube) and it's ok clean but way too loud to push the output stage and the preamp distortion on the overdrive channels is just nasty. with all the guitar players in this group, we all ought to get together and find a drummer somewhere just to play through and have a massive jam session. In high school, I was in the orchestra and marching bands as a drummer. I played Timpani in the orchestra. In my basement bar room, where I practice and play guitar, I've got several percussion instruments people can pick up and mess with anytime they want. I've heard some pretty funky stuff there!! I've got a cheap djembe drum, tambourine, a cheap bodhran. I'm looking for a used conga. |
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:22:26 GMT, Don White wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: i wonder how long i can keep this thread alive.... At the risk of sounding wimpy...... ever see some kind of finger thimble that a person could use to keep your fingers from touching two strings at once? I'm thinking of something plastic that would go over your 4 frettin' fingers. i have - farmer's fingers - myself. you just have to get used to fingering with the tips of your fingers - as you exercise the fingers, they will thin out a little - really, not kidding you. i would also second previous advice, learn to play including the pinky and leanr to use bar chords immediately. you'd be surprised at how much music you can make by just learning a few simple bar chords. Pentatonic scales.....a must. |
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Doug Kanter wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On 14 Jan 2006 17:56:15 -0800, wrote: I've3 been playing bass guitar for 35 years (man! time flies!!!) I wish i had taken guitar lesson's when I was a kid, it would have made learning bass a whole lot easier. But I suppose I do ok.... if kanter can play bass, anybody can play bass. - that was a joke son - except for the kanter part - I am a bass monster. I've picked around with bass a little, but not enough so that it doesn't feel wierd to me, but I am trying to find a semi-cheap bass to mess with and learn. The five strings are alien to me all together. |
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Kevin,
Good to see you made it into work safely today so that you can resume stealing time from your employer by posting to the group rather than do the work for which you are paid. wrote in message ups.com... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:04:30 -0800, -rick- wrote: Eisboch wrote: Saw an interesting study on amplifier distortion ratings recently. Typically expressed as "THD" or Total Harmonic Distortion, it is generally considered that the lower the number the better, resulting in amps with ratings of 1% or less, often much less. Turns out that in a series of blind tests with a control group for comparison that were told what levels of distortion existed, the human ear is very non-sensitive to relatively high levels of distortion. Furthermore, the ear is frequency dependent in it's ability to detect distortion. I forget the exact numbers, but it was something like above 8khz the ear was most sensitive and both the blind group and the control group detected distortion at about 3 percent. As the frequency lowered, both groups were unable to detect higher levels of THD. At low frequencies (bass) it took almost 100% THD for the groups to detect any distortion. Both group results were almost identical also. I also remember reading about Carver amps which were of a "magnetic amp" design. Bob Carver, the designer of the original Carver amp claimed the same thing as the tests described above. Carver amps typically have a much higher THD rating than those of comparable competitors. Oh, well. Useless information on a rainy day, 40 minutes from kickoff of the Patriot's next victory on the way to the SB. More useless info... As I recall the Carver "magnetic" amp (the cube?) was a bit of a misnomer. I think this design had a number of switching power supplies that produced a range of output voltages (+/-10V, +/-20V, +/-30V, etc. for example). The audio output was switched to the power supply that was most nearly equal to desired gain * input signal. A low power linear amp would then correct the residual error and switching glitches were reduced with a low pass filter. It was quite efficient and needed minimal heat sink but did have higher noise and distortion than most linear amps, not that I could hear it. Hearing sensitivity is intensity and frequency dependent as shown by the Fletcher-Munson curves which may explain the distortion results you noted. http://www.webervst.com/fm.htm The thing is I *want* the guitar amp to distort when pushed. But I want "nice" distortion, like Eric Johnson's 600lb violin sound. Hey, would that be a Srativarius? http://www.ericjohnson.com/ Maybe some day I'll find time to experiment with a low power tube amp and novel ways of crippling it. I have a recent Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (40 watt tube) and it's ok clean but way too loud to push the output stage and the preamp distortion on the overdrive channels is just nasty. with all the guitar players in this group, we all ought to get together and find a drummer somewhere just to play through and have a massive jam session. In high school, I was in the orchestra and marching bands as a drummer. I played Timpani in the orchestra. In my basement bar room, where I practice and play guitar, I've got several percussion instruments people can pick up and mess with anytime they want. I've heard some pretty funky stuff there!! I've got a cheap djembe drum, tambourine, a cheap bodhran. I'm looking for a used conga. |
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Don wrote:
Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm |
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Bert Robbins wrote: Kevin, Good to see you made it into work safely today so that you can resume stealing time from your employer by posting to the group rather than do the work for which you are paid. Good to see that you're still an idiot who thinks I'm someone I'm not. Go away, little boy. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:04:24 -0500, "Bert Robbins" wrote:
Kevin, Good to see you made it into work safely today so that you can resume stealing time from your employer by posting to the group rather than do the work for which you are paid. Hopefully, bassie will have enough sense to ignore such an obvious troll. What's the point, Bert, just to be unfriendly 'cause you can? Why? What does it accomplish? -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:26 -0500, (N.L. Eckert) wrote: Don wrote: Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm Where are some pictures, please? Alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean would be a great place, unless you're one of those talented guys with his own web site. -- John H Why are you suggesting that someone post photos of guitars to an ocean sports photo group? Survived my 1st lesson tonight. Six of us in the class and I might be the rookie. Gotta practice my first song.. Twinkle twinkle Little Guitar.... (actually 'Star') He also had us strumming four blues chords... but it takes me way to long to move my frettn' hand from chord to chord. Fingers were sore at the end of the class but instructer says a couple of weeks practicing half an hour a day should toughen me up. |
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On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 18:58:49 -0500, Harry Krause
wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:26 -0500, (N.L. Eckert) wrote: Don wrote: Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm Where are some pictures, please? Alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean would be a great place, unless you're one of those talented guys with his own web site. -- John H Why are you suggesting that someone post photos of guitars to an ocean sports photo group? "But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results." Ship models? Ocean? Kinda on-topic? -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:10:47 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:02:41 GMT, Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:26 -0500, (N.L. Eckert) wrote: Don wrote: Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm Where are some pictures, please? Alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean would be a great place, unless you're one of those talented guys with his own web site. -- John H Why are you suggesting that someone post photos of guitars to an ocean sports photo group? Survived my 1st lesson tonight. Six of us in the class and I might be the rookie. Gotta practice my first song.. Twinkle twinkle Little Guitar.... (actually 'Star') He also had us strumming four blues chords... but it takes me way to long to move my frettn' hand from chord to chord. Fingers were sore at the end of the class but instructer says a couple of weeks practicing half an hour a day should toughen me up. thats about right, but i might want to take a fifteen minute break between sessions. LOL! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:02:41 GMT, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:26 -0500, (N.L. Eckert) wrote: Don wrote: Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm Where are some pictures, please? Alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean would be a great place, unless you're one of those talented guys with his own web site. -- John H Why are you suggesting that someone post photos of guitars to an ocean sports photo group? Survived my 1st lesson tonight. Six of us in the class and I might be the rookie. Gotta practice my first song.. Twinkle twinkle Little Guitar.... (actually 'Star') He also had us strumming four blues chords... but it takes me way to long to move my frettn' hand from chord to chord. Fingers were sore at the end of the class but instructer says a couple of weeks practicing half an hour a day should toughen me up. Don, where did you find the instructor? Did you just look in the Yellow Pages? Guitar lessons sounds like fun! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** |
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JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:02:41 GMT, Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:26 -0500, (N.L. Eckert) wrote: Don wrote: Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm Where are some pictures, please? Alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean would be a great place, unless you're one of those talented guys with his own web site. -- John H Why are you suggesting that someone post photos of guitars to an ocean sports photo group? Survived my 1st lesson tonight. Six of us in the class and I might be the rookie. Gotta practice my first song.. Twinkle twinkle Little Guitar.... (actually 'Star') He also had us strumming four blues chords... but it takes me way to long to move my frettn' hand from chord to chord. Fingers were sore at the end of the class but instructer says a couple of weeks practicing half an hour a day should toughen me up. Don, where did you find the instructor? Did you just look in the Yellow Pages? Guitar lessons sounds like fun! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** The Conservatory and the Music Store below it sent out brochures at Christmas time. I had been aware of this place for many years as it was on my daily walk between home and work.... and a former casual co-workers husband was the Director until August. Seems some organization in Georgia make him a better offer and he flew south. There went my connection and a potential reduced tuition fee. ;-) http://www.canadianconservatory.com/ (busy spot... lots of kids taking private lessons plus adults) |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Don White wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 01:02:41 GMT, Don White wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 10:15:26 -0500, (N.L. Eckert) wrote: Don wrote: Well...I've grown tired of just surviving the winters, and since things have mellowed out inn this newsgroup I can't even count on a good dustup to keep me going. This morning I went to a local music store and bought a Takamine GS-330S acoustic guitar. I didn't know what to buy so I let the salesman convince me that this model was the best value..for a beginner as it was on at a reduced price. They threw in the case, strap and half a dozen picks... all for $300.00 CDN. Next I walked upstairs to the Canadian Conservatory of Music and signed up for 18 weeks of music lessons. Classes don't start until next Tuesday night, so I found beginner lessons online but might have trouble with my frettin' hand. I find the strings seem close together for my chubby fingers. Anyway, I'll see how it works out. Gotta do something..... the wife has been called back to work a month early and I'll be semi-housebound for months. Back to that chromatic chord... G major D major C major... mmmm wonder if they do cash refunds at that store? ================================== Not a bad choice for a hobby and you can have a lot of fun with it during the boating season, too. Some years ago, a friend showed me the basic chords and I banged away on an old guitar that my wife had used as a teenager. Later, a marina friend was trying to learn the banjo, so it became sort of a contest to see who could progress faster with their chosen insterment. It was about a tie, but we had a lot of fun. Then still another marina friend brought her accordian out and we had a 3 piece combo, this brought out a fourth that played the harmonica very well. We limped along with various singalong stuff for several years, usually attracting some others for singalong. But, for a winter hobby, I took up ship modeling about 19 years ago. Not being much of a craftsman, I was surprised (as were many others) at the results.. Happy hobby & boating, Norm Where are some pictures, please? Alt.binaries.pictures.sports.ocean would be a great place, unless you're one of those talented guys with his own web site. -- John H Why are you suggesting that someone post photos of guitars to an ocean sports photo group? Survived my 1st lesson tonight. Six of us in the class and I might be the rookie. Gotta practice my first song.. Twinkle twinkle Little Guitar.... (actually 'Star') He also had us strumming four blues chords... but it takes me way to long to move my frettn' hand from chord to chord. Fingers were sore at the end of the class but instructer says a couple of weeks practicing half an hour a day should toughen me up. Don, where did you find the instructor? Did you just look in the Yellow Pages? Guitar lessons sounds like fun! -- John H ******Have a spectacular day!****** The Conservatory and the Music Store below it sent out brochures at Christmas time. I had been aware of this place for many years as it was on my daily walk between home and work.... and a former casual co-workers husband was the Director until August. Seems some organization in Georgia make him a better offer and he flew south. There went my connection and a potential reduced tuition fee. ;-) http://www.canadianconservatory.com/ (busy spot... lots of kids taking private lessons plus adults) I forgot your answer, Don...are you playing nylon or steel strings? Steel..... One of the guys in our class last night had nylon, which were a bit better spaced on the wider neck. I believe the instructor said that was common for a Spanish guitar..... Disadvantage...his nylon strings probably need tuning more often. |
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John wrote/asked:
Ship models? Ocean? On topic" Here is a web site showing all but the model I'm still working on. Constitution, and I'm afraid I may have bitten off more than I can chew..... ================================= http://community.webtv.net/nl3ecke/MYSHIPMODELS |
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N.L. Eckert wrote:
John wrote/asked: Ship models? Ocean? On topic" Here is a web site showing all but the model I'm still working on. Constitution, and I'm afraid I may have bitten off more than I can chew..... ================================= http://community.webtv.net/nl3ecke/MYSHIPMODELS Norm, Damn the Beagle looks nice. Where do you buy your models? -- Reggie ****** |
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