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"Courtney" wrote in message
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I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to
paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got
credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be
and
I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and
having
fun.

Courtney

If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical)
journalism.

Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an informal
assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers say
that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not really
unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said what.
OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then they
really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote as a
participant at least.

Nonetheless, how did they contact you, Courtney? Send you an email saying
"we've seen your posts on rbp and were wondering if you wanted to fieldtest
some new products for us and give us your opinion?" I think the closest I
ever got to being approached was after I posted a TR from a visit to
Mauritius, a woman who runs a B&B in Oregon emailed me and offered me a free
multi-day stay if I wrote an article about their facility and posted it on
GetLostMagazine.com. But I was in Congo at the time, so it was impractical.

--riverman

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"Courtney" wrote in message
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I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to
paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got
credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be
and
I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and
having
fun.

Courtney

If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical)
journalism.

Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an informal
assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers
say that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not really
unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said
what. OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then
they really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote as
a participant at least.

Yes, all true. It sounded like she was specifically invited and invested a
fair bit of time. I'd use a phrase like "some paddlers say" if I got the
information from scanning newsgroups or something, not if I invited someone
to do a review and spent time with them.

It was more of an informal assessment like Riverman mentioned. We were all
friends and all working in the industry. I believe they quoted some
sponsored paddlers reviews and then said "what others had to say" about the
boats as well.

Courtney

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I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to
paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never
got
credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to
be
and
I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and
having
fun.

Courtney

If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical)
journalism.

Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an
informal
assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers
say that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not
really
unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said
what. OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then
they really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote
as
a participant at least.

Yes, all true. It sounded like she was specifically invited and invested a
fair bit of time. I'd use a phrase like "some paddlers say" if I got the
information from scanning newsgroups or something, not if I invited
someone
to do a review and spent time with them.

in article et, Courtney at
wrote on 1/18/06 6:10 PM:

It was more of an informal assessment like Riverman mentioned. We were all
friends and all working in the industry. I believe they quoted some
sponsored paddlers reviews and then said "what others had to say" about the
boats as well.

Courtney

Ah, I see. Fair enough.



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"Courtney" wrote in message
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I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to
paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never
got
credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to
be
and
I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and
having
fun.

Courtney

If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical)
journalism.

Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an
informal
assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers
say that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not
really
unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said
what. OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then
they really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote
as
a participant at least.

Yes, all true. It sounded like she was specifically invited and invested a
fair bit of time. I'd use a phrase like "some paddlers say" if I got the
information from scanning newsgroups or something, not if I invited
someone
to do a review and spent time with them.