Unfortunately I'm familiar with this since it's what happened to me back in
1996. Strangely though, it was the most peaceful feeling I had ever had in
my life when I quit breathing. Coming back to was the scary part.

Courtney


"Wilko" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Soulboater.com this (German language) article was postet recently:


http://www.soulboater.com/sbt2004/co...=7805&lang=deu

Below the translated text of the sea kayaker magazine, a doctor
explains what happens if you (almost) get water in your lungs. He talks
about "dry drowning" and a near drowning where in the case of the "dry
drowning" the "Laryngospasmus" in the victim causes to shut off all air
to the lungs. This usually also causes a lot of water to go to the
stomach.

The other situation of the "near drowning", the doctor mentions clear
and sal****er "near drownings".

Some other articles about the effects of near drowning:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic744.htm

http://scuba-doc.com/hypoth.htm
(a bit down the page is about "near drowning")

Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist...
:-)

Wilko

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Wilko van den Bergh wilkoa t)dse(d o tnl
Eindhoven The Netherlands Europe
---Look at the possibilities, don't worry about the limitations.---
http://kayaker.nl/

Didn't we have a long thread here about 6 years back about near-death
drowning experiences folks here had had?

--riverman

in article , riverman
at wrote on 1/12/06 11:35 PM:

Didn't we have a long thread here about 6 years back about near-death
drowning experiences folks here had had?

--riverman

I'd like to see that! People who drown but don't die...

What do you mean by 'die'? ;-)

--riverman

in article , riverman at
wrote on 1/13/06 12:12 AM:

What do you mean by 'die'? ;-)

--riverman

I mean so dead that even the Michael Daly Hand Of God manoevre won't save
you!

Well, yes of course I misstated and you get a point.

I meant "near-drowning experience" or "near-death experience".
"Near-death drowning experience" could bwe argued as an oxymoron. In
most circles, the definition of drowning explicitly includes death, but
there is that grey area of 'what is death' and is it irreversible.

Then, there's the semantic question of if someone is 'in the process of
drowning' and does not clinically die, were they ever 'drowning'?

--riverman
(no good will come of this, I can predict)

in article , riverman
at wrote on 1/13/06 1:12 AM:

Well, yes of course I misstated and you get a point.

I meant "near-drowning experience" or "near-death experience".
"Near-death drowning experience" could bwe argued as an oxymoron. In
most circles, the definition of drowning explicitly includes death, but
there is that grey area of 'what is death' and is it irreversible.

Then, there's the semantic question of if someone is 'in the process of
drowning' and does not clinically die, were they ever 'drowning'?

--riverman
(no good will come of this, I can predict)

LOL

Not to worry, I'm done :-D

On 13-Jan-2006, KMAN wrote:

I mean so dead that even the Michael Daly Hand Of God manoevre won't save
you!

Since when have I been associated with that technique?

Why do you keep claiming that you don't make derogatory comments about people
and then post crap like this?

Do you keep changing your email address so that you can avoid all the killfiles?

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
...

On 13-Jan-2006, KMAN wrote:

I mean so dead that even the Michael Daly Hand Of God manoevre won't save
you!

Since when have I been associated with that technique?

Not sure, I'll give a google and see.

I found this and some other hits: http://tinyurl.com/99aup

Why do you keep claiming that you don't make derogatory comments
about people and then post crap like this?

What are you babbling about? I'm having a laugh here. It just popped in my
head I've seen you bragging about doing the Hand Of God a few times, so it
was a funny reference given the topic.

Do you keep changing your email address so that you can avoid all the
killfiles?

Mike

I'm not aware of any changes to my email address, but killfiles are for the
feeble-minded. Can't you just refrain from opening messages from me if you
don't want to see them? And are you really so fragile that you can't handle
it?

"riverman" wrote in message
oups.com...
Didn't we have a long thread here about 6 years back about near-death
drowning experiences folks here had had?

Yes. That was a good thread. Has it really been that long? My, how time goes
by...

There was also a thread about how many of us are terrified of drowning and
why we boat...

Rebecca Lightning