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thanks - got it now.
"Qajaq" wrote in message oups.com... Rob - Can't really seem to generate a link that brings up the thread, sorry... But if you log onto the www.qajaqusa.org website, click on "Greenland Forums", click on "Greenland Kayaking Forums:" scroll down to bottom of MESSSAGE INDEX and click on SEARCH, change "Posted within the last " selection to "Year", click on radio button for "Messages Posted By:", " Steve Ulrich" activate Search then scroll down to topic "Hand of God" dated Friday, 17 June 2005, at 9:54 a.m., click on it, then click on "view thread" a thread should come up with 24 entries. sorry couldn't give you a better procedure. Best, Ed |
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Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that
there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra |
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Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra Hey Mothra! Nice to see a familiar name show up. RBP was hot for a while, quite frequently earning a column in some of the paddling rags And every once in a while, some direct quotes from this group would show up in a book. And even though that was a long time ago, I gotta tell you, there are many names counted on the list of friends met here that I would love to connect with in real life. Regards, Blakley --- Blakely LaCroix Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA r.b.p. clique member #86 "The best adventure is yet to come" |
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Hey, Mothie!
How ya doin'? From another old-time lurker, R "Mothra" wrote in message oups.com... Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra |
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"Railtramp" wrote in message ups.com... Mothra wrote: Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra Hey Mothra! Nice to see a familiar name show up. RBP was hot for a while, quite frequently earning a column in some of the paddling rags And every once in a while, some direct quotes from this group would show up in a book. And even though that was a long time ago, I gotta tell you, there are many names counted on the list of friends met here that I would love to connect with in real life. Regards, Blakley --- Blakely LaCroix Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA r.b.p. clique member #86 "The best adventure is yet to come" |
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And hey to you too, Blake
R "Railtramp" wrote in message ups.com... Mothra wrote: Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra Hey Mothra! Nice to see a familiar name show up. RBP was hot for a while, quite frequently earning a column in some of the paddling rags And every once in a while, some direct quotes from this group would show up in a book. And even though that was a long time ago, I gotta tell you, there are many names counted on the list of friends met here that I would love to connect with in real life. Regards, Blakley --- Blakely LaCroix Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA r.b.p. clique member #86 "The best adventure is yet to come" |
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"John Fereira" wrote in message .. . "Railtramp" wrote in news:1137549981.165531.81630 @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Mothra wrote: Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra Hey Mothra! Nice to see a familiar name show up. RBP was hot for a while, quite frequently earning a column in some of the paddling rags And every once in a while, some direct quotes from this group would show up in a book. I also have it on good authority that internationally recognized trade magazine editors read the group from time to time, solicitor authors of postings here to write an article for their magazine. (See Sea Kayaker, Feb. 2005) Oh yeah? Its been a desire of mine for many years to get printed in a trade magazine; even better yet to get paid something for it. You'd think after all these years of river stories, someone would have contacted me... HEY, MAGAZINE EDITORS!! I'M HERE, READY AND WILLING! --riverman |
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"John Fereira" wrote in message .. . "Railtramp" wrote in news:1137549981.165531.81630 @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Mothra wrote: Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra Hey Mothra! Nice to see a familiar name show up. RBP was hot for a while, quite frequently earning a column in some of the paddling rags And every once in a while, some direct quotes from this group would show up in a book. I also have it on good authority that internationally recognized trade magazine editors read the group from time to time, solicitor authors of postings here to write an article for their magazine. (See Sea Kayaker, Feb. 2005) Oh yeah? Its been a desire of mine for many years to get printed in a trade magazine; even better yet to get paid something for it. You'd think after all these years of river stories, someone would have contacted me... HEY, MAGAZINE EDITORS!! I'M HERE, READY AND WILLING! --riverman Imagine reading a book and finding *your* words in a chapter and in the back flap of the dust cover and not getting so much as even a footnote. I am not sure the publishing industry is a very ethical one. Blakley --- Blakley LaCroix Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA R.B.P. clique member #86. "The best adventure is yet to come" |
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Remember the magazine RIVER a few years back? I had two word for word boat
reviews published in it. They contacted me. One was WW, one was touring I think(I started with touring boats) "Railtramp" wrote in message oups.com... riverman wrote: "John Fereira" wrote in message .. . "Railtramp" wrote in news:1137549981.165531.81630 @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Mothra wrote: Hmmmm. The Vagus nerve connection is INTERESTING. I do know that there are implantable Vagus Nerve stimulators which are used for some neurologic conditions. The company that makes the implantable stimulator was getting ready to apply to the FDA for medical device usage for depression since it has a nice side effect as per mood. However, during that time a guy in Frederick County, Maryland (where I used to live) was stimulating his Vagus while driving and caused a major car accident killing 5, and that skuttled all plans for the depression indication with the FDA. I have met one paddler who drowned, and was successfully recussitated after 8 minutes. He described drowning as "euphoric" and said he "would do it everyday" except the recovery in the hospital was painful and quite unpleasant. Wonder if that could be the Vagus Nerve effect? Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Mothra Hey Mothra! Nice to see a familiar name show up. RBP was hot for a while, quite frequently earning a column in some of the paddling rags And every once in a while, some direct quotes from this group would show up in a book. I also have it on good authority that internationally recognized trade magazine editors read the group from time to time, solicitor authors of postings here to write an article for their magazine. (See Sea Kayaker, Feb. 2005) Oh yeah? Its been a desire of mine for many years to get printed in a trade magazine; even better yet to get paid something for it. You'd think after all these years of river stories, someone would have contacted me... HEY, MAGAZINE EDITORS!! I'M HERE, READY AND WILLING! --riverman Imagine reading a book and finding *your* words in a chapter and in the back flap of the dust cover and not getting so much as even a footnote. I am not sure the publishing industry is a very ethical one. Blakley --- Blakley LaCroix Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA R.B.P. clique member #86. "The best adventure is yet to come" |
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"Grip" wrote in message ... Remember the magazine RIVER a few years back? I had two word for word boat reviews published in it. They contacted me. One was WW, one was touring I think(I started with touring boats) Did you get paid, or credited? --riverman |
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I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to
paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be and I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and having fun. Courtney "Grip" wrote in message ... Remember the magazine RIVER a few years back? I had two word for word boat reviews published in it. They contacted me. One was WW, one was touring I think(I started with touring boats) |
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"Courtney" wrote in message ink.net... I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be and I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and having fun. Courtney If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical) journalism. |
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"KMAN" wrote in message . .. "Courtney" wrote in message ink.net... I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be and I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and having fun. Courtney If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical) journalism. Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an informal assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers say that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not really unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said what. OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then they really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote as a participant at least. Nonetheless, how did they contact you, Courtney? Send you an email saying "we've seen your posts on rbp and were wondering if you wanted to fieldtest some new products for us and give us your opinion?" I think the closest I ever got to being approached was after I posted a TR from a visit to Mauritius, a woman who runs a B&B in Oregon emailed me and offered me a free multi-day stay if I wrote an article about their facility and posted it on GetLostMagazine.com. But I was in Congo at the time, so it was impractical. --riverman |
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Credited yes, paid....heck like the rolling stone mag song....I bought 5
copies for my mother "riverman" wrote in message ... "Grip" wrote in message ... Remember the magazine RIVER a few years back? I had two word for word boat reviews published in it. They contacted me. One was WW, one was touring I think(I started with touring boats) Did you get paid, or credited? --riverman |
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"riverman" wrote in message ... "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "Courtney" wrote in message ink.net... I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be and I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and having fun. Courtney If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical) journalism. Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an informal assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers say that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not really unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said what. OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then they really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote as a participant at least. Yes, all true. It sounded like she was specifically invited and invested a fair bit of time. I'd use a phrase like "some paddlers say" if I got the information from scanning newsgroups or something, not if I invited someone to do a review and spent time with them. |
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"Melissa" wrote in message ... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi riverman, On Wed, 18 Jan 2006 19:41:15 +0800, you wrote: Oh yeah? Its been a desire of mine for many years to get printed in a trade magazine; even better yet to get paid something for it. You'd think after all these years of river stories, someone would have contacted me... HEY, MAGAZINE EDITORS!! I'M HERE, READY AND WILLING! Be careful what you wish for! :-) A few years ago, I was contacted by a supposedly "outdoor/conservationist" magazine (based in NYC) to write a feature article about my experiences paddling with the resident whales of my local waters. The publisher sent me several copies of the magazine (very glossy, and filled with advertising for the "upscale conspicuous consumer"; with many of these items being quite "environmentally unfriendly" in my view, even though their "target consumer" was the "outdoor enthusiast"). Mags like Canadian Geographic struggle with this contradiction all the time. A lot of their subscriber based would be people who are concerned about the environment but who are also in middle and upper income territory, perfect for shiny ads for big pollution spouting SUVs and the like. You need to make money to run the magazine, yet at the same time you don't want to offend the readership. A tricky business. |
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It was more of an informal assessment like Riverman mentioned. We were all
friends and all working in the industry. I believe they quoted some sponsored paddlers reviews and then said "what others had to say" about the boats as well. Courtney "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "riverman" wrote in message ... "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "Courtney" wrote in message ink.net... I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be and I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and having fun. Courtney If they didn't even mention your name, that's lousy (and unethical) journalism. Maybe...it depends on how they used her review. If it was just an informal assessment, added to a lot of other people's assessments ("some paddlers say that the sharp chine carves turns too easily..."), then its not really unethical, imho, as it would be too hard to footnote exactly who said what. OTOH, if they printed even a sentence of Courtney's verbatum, then they really should have credited her in the paragraph, or in a footnote as a participant at least. Yes, all true. It sounded like she was specifically invited and invested a fair bit of time. I'd use a phrase like "some paddlers say" if I got the information from scanning newsgroups or something, not if I invited someone to do a review and spent time with them. |
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Copyright laws force me to mention that KMAN said:
"Mags like Canadian Geographic struggle with this contradiction all the time. A lot of their subscriber based would be people who are concerned about the environment but who are also in middle and upper income territory, perfect for shiny ads for big pollution spouting SUVs and the like. You need to make money to run the magazine, yet at the same time you don't want to offend the readership. A tricky business." Its not just mags that struggle with this. When I was helping start the WW Rafting industry in Maine back in the early 80s, the region where we were boating was quite pristine, with no shops or paved roads, only rustic campsites and a few fishermen. A part of our business was to show the clientele this aspect of the Maine woods. But the very act of creating a booming industry means that the roads were getting paved, the rustic campgrounds were getting developed, new stores and hotels sprung up, and the pristine aspect was being destroyed. The fact that the vast majority of the clients were there specifically because they LIKED pristine areas was bittersweet consolation for the damage they were doing by just being there. I don't know that there was an easy solution to this; after a bunch of years debating with myself about my own role in the destruction of a wonderful part of Maine, I had to leave the industry. Those who remained didn't mind; they accepted the fact that once the genii was let out of the bottle, there was no turning back. But I'd rather not have that hanging on me. I think I would have done the same as you, Melissa; if writing the article about a place would have irevocably changed that area for the worse, I agree that not writing the article is the best personal course of action. Even if the article was going to be inevitably written, and someone was going to make good money off of it. --riverman |
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Hi All,
Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to find rpb again on my new computer. As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!! Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick) rpb clique #69! |
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Hi Julie,
It's been a long time. 5 years now since we left Georgia and moved out west. Can you believe we have a child now and another due in about a month - and yes I'm still paddling with this huge beach ball of a stomach but just taking things a little easier!! It's good to see a familiar face on RBP. It got pretty dead there for a while and I didn't post for a long time but always kept lurking. I hope you're doing well. Let us know the next time you make it out this way. Courtney & Jimmy "JulieKeller.com" wrote in message oups.com... Hi All, Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to find rpb again on my new computer. As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!! Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick) rpb clique #69! |
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"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message oups.com... Hi All, Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to find rpb again on my new computer. As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!! Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick) rpb clique #69! Hey Julie: Nice to see some familiar typing! Wow, you got married! :-) --riverman rbp clique #2 |
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JulieKeller.com wrote:
Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to find rpb again on my new computer. Julie (now) Fitzpatrick, rpb #69 Welcome back, Julie! Hope your photography business is doing well. I hadn't seen the Whitewater Open Canoe Nationals on the Blackfoot river in Montana, pictures you put up over a year ago. Nice. http://juliekeller.com/rt_WWOC2004.htm I still can't figure out how to read the kayak forum on Boatertalk.com without impacting my day job, so RBP is my token boating newsgroup. As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!! In more than one way! |
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"Mothra" wrote in message oups.com... Hey, this thead is fun. Just like the rbp heyday! Sure was great there for a while. I've been away for a few years and just stuck my nose in to see what was up. I'm sure glad to see familiar names still here. Rebecca Lightning |
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"Courtney" wrote in message ink.net... I was asked to go out with some people from a popular kayak magazine to paddle and give my review of several boats a few years ago and never got credited or paid. I didn't bother me though because I didn't ask to be and I was just happy to be out on the water trying out some new boats and having fun. We paddlers are so easy sometimes...grin Rebecca Lightning |
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"JulieKeller.com" wrote in message oups.com... Hey Julie, How are ya!? Rebecca Lightning |
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Wow, this is a freakin' reunion!
Heya Julie! "JulieKeller.com" wrote in message oups.com... Hi All, Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to find rpb again on my new computer. As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!! Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick) rpb clique #69! |
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OK I'm here as well!
In message , Socemdog writes Wow, this is a freakin' reunion! Heya Julie! "JulieKeller.com" wrote in message roups.com... Hi All, Great to see that rbp is still around with lots of familar faces. I left Atlanta a few years ago and the computer Scott B. built for me has never been able to get back on to the net - and it took me this long to find rpb again on my new computer. As I see it - the bottom line is Drowing SUCKS!!!!!! Julie (used to be Keller now Fitzpatrick) rpb clique #69! -- Dave Manby |
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To trap a Ratt all you need is a camera.
"John Fereira" wrote in message ... "Socemdog" wrote in news:BIOdnVl_q9Sp-kneRVn- : Wow, this is a freakin' reunion! Heya Julie! Now If I could find some cheese maybe I could lure a certain Rat back in. |
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