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[email protected] January 12th 06 02:11 PM

The *New* Rules of this NG have become..............
 

JimH wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

JimH wrote:

Gosh, could you post the official reprimand?


Sure. From my thread titled "OT: Not political but it will make you
mad..."

1. "The group has made a drastic turnaround, and will continue as long
as
we
refuse to participate in the trolls."

2. "You'll probably find a lot more people interested in discussing sex
crimes at: http://www.sexcriminals.com/forums/ "



snip
This forum is supposed to be about recreational boating.


Not by the variety of posts I read here.

But who cares, as long as there is no name calling and personal attacks.
Stop this and you have accomplished something.


Then quit name calling and personal attacking, Jim.

Heck, even today someone who suggested a kinder and gentler "do unto
others.." approach personally attacked me a couple of times.

Where?


Butch Davis January 12th 06 02:25 PM

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I see you have been "discussing" an electrical issue with Lon on the RV
group. A man of strong opinions.

Butch
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...


There are no rules, silly. It's an unmoderated group.



Serious unmoderated groups should be self-moderating.

Eisboch




Eisboch January 12th 06 04:42 PM

The *New* Rules of this NG have become..............
 

"Butch Davis" wrote in message
ink.net...

I see you have been "discussing" an electrical issue with Lon on the RV
group. A man of strong opinions.

Butch


Just offered my opinion which apparently is different than his.
I've seen my share of electrical fires. He claims he never had one. :-)

Eisboch



Wayne.B January 12th 06 05:00 PM

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On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:42:17 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

I've seen my share of electrical fires. He claims he never had one. :-)


=============================

I've seen the after effects of a few on boats. Not pretty.


Netsock January 12th 06 05:51 PM

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:18:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


The attempt to return to "boating" only discussions will never work, because
rec.boats was never only about boating. It was an internet based comradely
of people who shared a common root interest but enjoyed the discussion and
humor of all subjects, very much like the social environment at the dock or
marina.


The "marina/newsgroup analogy" has been used before, but its not the
same animal.

Usenet is set up like a newspaper (that's why people call Usenet
machines "news-servers", and the reading programs "news-readers), as
it has specific "sections", if you will.

How would you like to read about finances in the sports pages of your
newspaper? What if you had to wade through the classifieds, to find
the weather? Wouldn't be much of a paper, would it.

It is inappropriate, against Usenet etiquette, and rude to post
off-topic in any group, especially when there is a group specific to
the OT post...like politics.

It seems things may have improved over recent months...I think Ill
turn off my filters and kill file, and see what's up first hand. I too
would love to see rec.boats as it is intended.
__

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."

http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/

JohnH January 12th 06 06:05 PM

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On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 23:11:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 21:18:10 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

Like every other social group though, you gotta leave politics and religion
out of it.
If we all simply did that - this NG would be fine.


Excellent.

No politics, no religion.

Let's add it to the charter (the unwritten one of course).

Can we all agree?


I agree, and hope we could add 'personal attacks' to the list!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Jack Redington January 12th 06 10:51 PM

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RG wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

I think this needs to be said.

I've been a subscriber to rec.boats since 1995. For the most part it has
been a very enjoyable experience. I've enjoyed the boating discussions,
sea stories, tall tales, humor plus the more than occasional "Off Topic"
discussions that amount to nothing but dock chat. Although I've never met
most of the participants, the names are all like old friends.

Many times the NG has provided entertainment that you just couldn't find
anywhere else. Who can forget the famous bilge pump debates between
Marcus and Mrs. B.?

Unfortunately, the political side of things invested itself during the
election of 2000.
Certain people have never let it go - and the political infection of
rec.boats took root. This, singularly, has been the primary reason for
the deterioration of the group during the past 7-8 years, IMOH.

The attempt to return to "boating" only discussions will never work,
because rec.boats was never only about boating. It was an internet based
comradely of people who shared a common root interest but enjoyed the
discussion and humor of all subjects, very much like the social
environment at the dock or marina.

Like every other social group though, you gotta leave politics and
religion out of it.
If we all simply did that - this NG would be fine.

Eisboch



Well said, Richard. I date back to early 1998 in this group, and I agree
with your observations entirely. There is no question that politics is the
poison that turned this forum into its ugly self and has caused so many
terrific regulars to quietly (and some not so quietly) disappear. It's been
very difficult in recent times for me to stick around. This place was
crazier than a bag of hammers in the late 90's, but immensely fun. But once
the politics of the 2000 general election took center stage, it's just never
been the same. Like you say, there's just certain highly charged subjects
that it's just not good common social sense to discuss in mixed company.
The outcome of such banter is 100% predictable, and rarely pretty.



When I was in high school a teacher once said, "The three topics to walk
softly/avoid even with friends with were sex, politics and religion.

Capt Jack R..


Dan Krueger January 14th 06 02:28 AM

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Don White wrote:

Dan Krueger wrote:


How about "practice what you preach", Kevin? Notice the clever use of
those fancy quotation marks?



Who are you quoting?


I REALLY hope you are trying to be funny and not stupid.

Dan

Dan Krueger January 14th 06 02:40 AM

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wrote:

JimH wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
hlink.net...

wrote:

JimH wrote:


.................inconsistent.

I was *officially* reprimanded by some folks here for posting a non
political article about a current event. Everyone participating in the
discussion offered reasonable comments and there were not flames. OK.
Fair
enough. This is a boating NG.

I continue to read numerous posts/threads about cameras, photography,
dogs,
pigs, etc. (non boating). However, I read no reprimands about those
posts.

A bit confusing. Very inconsistent.

Could someone please explain what the new and improved *rules* of this NG
are?


How about *do unto others as you would have them do unto you*?
One of your problems, Jim, is that you preach to the choir, then don't
heed your own advice.


How about "practice what you preach", Kevin? Notice the clever use of
those fancy quotation marks?



I was thinking the exact same thing Dan. Kevin has flamed me several times
today.

"Do unto others........" How funny.



Here we go again, Jim is doing his damnest to flame me. It starts with
him calling me kevin, then goes on from there. Next he'll be lying
about others, etc.



"Others" choose to post their real name or a screen name. People
respond to them, at times, by the name they use. You chose *Kevin
Noble* and, if I have to do it for the third time, I can post a copy of
that.

I know, you are "borrowing" someone's name, right? Doesn't that seem
really, really stupid by now, Kevin?

Dan

JohnH January 14th 06 02:44 AM

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:40:13 GMT, Dan Krueger
wrote:

wrote:

JimH wrote:

"Dan Krueger" wrote in message
thlink.net...

wrote:

JimH wrote:


.................inconsistent.

I was *officially* reprimanded by some folks here for posting a non
political article about a current event. Everyone participating in the
discussion offered reasonable comments and there were not flames. OK.
Fair
enough. This is a boating NG.

I continue to read numerous posts/threads about cameras, photography,
dogs,
pigs, etc. (non boating). However, I read no reprimands about those
posts.

A bit confusing. Very inconsistent.

Could someone please explain what the new and improved *rules* of this NG
are?


How about *do unto others as you would have them do unto you*?
One of your problems, Jim, is that you preach to the choir, then don't
heed your own advice.


How about "practice what you preach", Kevin? Notice the clever use of
those fancy quotation marks?


I was thinking the exact same thing Dan. Kevin has flamed me several times
today.

"Do unto others........" How funny.



Here we go again, Jim is doing his damnest to flame me. It starts with
him calling me kevin, then goes on from there. Next he'll be lying
about others, etc.



"Others" choose to post their real name or a screen name. People
respond to them, at times, by the name they use. You chose *Kevin
Noble* and, if I have to do it for the third time, I can post a copy of
that.

I know, you are "borrowing" someone's name, right? Doesn't that seem
really, really stupid by now, Kevin?

Dan


I sure hope bassie ignores that post.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


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