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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:41:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com
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"FREDO" wrote in message
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If you wait, your kid can probably get Windows XP Professional through the
school for next to nothing.
My wife got it for $10.00 US 2 years ago.
Fredo


How so?

Jim, try calling the school bookstore. Also, Computer Discount Warehouse
gives discounts to students and teachers. Don't know what they require as
proof for students. They just took my word for being a teacher.

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"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:41:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com
wrote:


"FREDO" wrote in message
...
If you wait, your kid can probably get Windows XP Professional through
the
school for next to nothing.
My wife got it for $10.00 US 2 years ago.
Fredo


How so?

Jim, try calling the school bookstore. Also, Computer Discount Warehouse
gives discounts to students and teachers. Don't know what they require as
proof for students. They just took my word for being a teacher.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

I will have my daughter at Ohio State give it a try. Thanks.

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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:41:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com
wrote:


"FREDO" wrote in message
...
If you wait, your kid can probably get Windows XP Professional through
the
school for next to nothing.
My wife got it for $10.00 US 2 years ago.
Fredo


How so?

Jim, try calling the school bookstore. Also, Computer Discount Warehouse
gives discounts to students and teachers. Don't know what they require as
proof for students. They just took my word for being a teacher.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

BTW: Did you get my email?

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:31:18 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:


I dunno, I've been messing around with LINUX for a few months, and I'm
not that impressed with it on the desktop.

What don't you like about it? Are you using KDE or Gnome?

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JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:41:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com
wrote:


"FREDO" wrote in message
...

If you wait, your kid can probably get Windows XP Professional through the
school for next to nothing.
My wife got it for $10.00 US 2 years ago.
Fredo


How so?


Jim, try calling the school bookstore. Also, Computer Discount Warehouse
gives discounts to students and teachers. Don't know what they require as
proof for students. They just took my word for being a teacher.

Normally your kid logs on under his school id and password and it
redirects you to the computer/software store.

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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wrote:
JimH wrote:

I am planning to put together a gaming (and general use) computer for my
son
as a high school graduation gift.

Here are my specs so far:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will
also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?


Why? You can buy a computer off the shelf with as good or better
features for less money!!

I am wondering the same thing. I know you can specify your own brand name
on all of the components if you build it yourself, but is there really a
big difference (in both cost and quality) between building your own and
ordering it from Dell?

I spec'd out a gaming Dell machine that ended up at $2,5000. When comparing
hardware, mine was far superior.

Try purchasing a retail computer with comparable hardware for under $2,500.
You cannot.

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:05:24 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:42:37 -0500, JohnH wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 12:08:25 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:51:29 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:56:31 -0500, JimH wrote:


Here are my specs so far:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip) Althion
64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version 2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card Antec Performance TX640B Series
Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor Windows XP
Professional OEM

Any suggestions or comments?

I like Maxtor drives, but you are aware that they were just purchased by
Seagate. I'm also assuming it's a SATA drive.

Corsair is good memory, but be aware that matching memory, and timings, to
a motherboard is becoming a pain. You may want to look here, if you
haven't already.

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...or_search.html

I'd also point out that Windows and 64 bit computing can be somewhat
problematic.

http://www.hardwareanalysis.com/content/article/1795/

http://www.3dvelocity.com/articles/w...64softlist.htm

FWIW, I've been using a true 64 bit system, Debian Linux, for over a year
without *any* problems. You might want to consider coming over to the
dark side. ;-)

are you his father?

jim - i am your father....

Tom, have you *already* started on the pills today?

what do you mean - already...

mmmmmmmmmagicalmysterypillsmmmmmmmmmmm

and now, im going to make a sandwich for breakfast.

because i can.

im in the mood for liverwurst, onion and cheddar cheese.

i wish i had cold pizza - i like cold pizza - cold sausage pizza.

cold cheese pizza is good too.

cold sausage pizza is better.

or lasagna - cold lasagna is really good too....

I like peppermint - oh oh wintergreen lifesavers...

did you ever wonder why m and m candy all taste alike although they
are all different colors...i mean, you would think that the red ones
would be like peppermint, the dark green ones wintergreen, the blue
ones should taste like blueberries and the light green ones should
taste like...hmmmm - monkey puke...they look like monkey puke they
should taste like monkey puke.

im going to go make a sandwich now...

God, I love liverwurst and onion and mayo sammiches. But not for breakfast,
unless on toast.

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John H.

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" JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com wrote in message
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
wrote:
JimH wrote:

I am planning to put together a gaming (and general use) computer for my
son
as a high school graduation gift.

Here are my specs so far:

MSI K8N Neo4/SLI motherboard (w/built in SoundBlaster Live chip)
Althion 64 3000+ CPU, Socket 939 version
2 GB DDR400 Corair Ram
256MB Nvidia GeForce 7800 GTX video card
Antec Performance TX640B Series Case
Plextor PX-716A dual layer DVD 16X
Maxtor 300GB DiamondMax hard drive
Viewsonic 17" Thinedge VP171B LCD flat panel monitor
Windows XP Professional OEM

He already has a decent keyboard, speakers and optical mouse. I will
also
add a DVD player so he can record copies of the DVD's he owns.

I can do this for around $2,000.

Any suggestions or comments?


Why? You can buy a computer off the shelf with as good or better
features for less money!!

I am wondering the same thing. I know you can specify your own brand
name on all of the components if you build it yourself, but is there
really a big difference (in both cost and quality) between building your
own and ordering it from Dell?

I spec'd out a gaming Dell machine that ended up at $2,5000. When
comparing hardware, mine was far superior.

Try purchasing a retail computer with comparable hardware for under
$2,500. You cannot.


Oops, check that Dell price.......with the LCD monitor it is more like
$2,800 vs. $1,900 (reduced because of reportedly being able to get the
Windows XP at a student discount) for my rig.

Consider upgradeability also...........limited options with the Dell. The
motherboard and CPU I spec'd offers tremendous opportunities for upgrade.

Lastly the AMD is a faster gaming CPU than the Intel Pentium Dell uses.

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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 08:13:22 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 07:41:57 -0500, " JimH" jimh_osudadATyahooDOT com
wrote:


"FREDO" wrote in message
m...
If you wait, your kid can probably get Windows XP Professional through
the
school for next to nothing.
My wife got it for $10.00 US 2 years ago.
Fredo


How so?

Jim, try calling the school bookstore. Also, Computer Discount Warehouse
gives discounts to students and teachers. Don't know what they require as
proof for students. They just took my word for being a teacher.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes

BTW: Did you get my email?


Yeah, I think. I answered one yesterday with the words '...officially
off...' therein. Have you sent another since?

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes