Heart Attacks While Boating
 

JohnH wrote:
That was a troll, and it was nice of NOYB not to bite!


That may or may not be the case, but *your* post is
definitely a passive-aggressive attack. I thought this kind
of thing was for pencil-neck intellectuals & left-wingers
(assuming they're not the same thing)? Oh well, it's still
an improvement.

DSK

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

NOYB wrote:
Every boater who travels more than a couple of dozen miles from shore should
consider carrying an Automatic External Defibrillator. They're available
OTC from Sams club for under $1500...and are absolutely fool-proof to use.


wrote:
As well as a bomb shelter, radiation suits, a couple of quarts of blood
of the same type as each person on board, a staffed hospital room,
helicopter for EVAC operations, complete antivenom kit, and the list
goes on.....how careful and prepared do you want to be?


Well, that depends on how large your vessel is, how many
people you take aboard, and how long you expect to be away
from "civilization" (those of us who know where & what it
is, to begin with).

For a 36' cruising boat, an anti-venom kit & an auto
defibrillator, an inflatable splint, injector pens loaded
with several types of emergency meds, are not at all
excessive IMHO.

Some people in this newsgroup have boats big enough for a
helo deck, but I personally don't. Should I be snide about it?

DSK

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:24:13 -0500, DSK wrote:

JohnH wrote:
That was a troll, and it was nice of NOYB not to bite!


That may or may not be the case, but *your* post is
definitely a passive-aggressive attack. I thought this kind
of thing was for pencil-neck intellectuals & left-wingers
(assuming they're not the same thing)? Oh well, it's still
an improvement.

DSK

Hopefully it was mostly passive, but just aggressive enough to get the point across.

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"JohnH" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:24:13 -0500, DSK wrote:

JohnH wrote:
That was a troll, and it was nice of NOYB not to bite!


That may or may not be the case, but *your* post is
definitely a passive-aggressive attack. I thought this kind
of thing was for pencil-neck intellectuals & left-wingers
(assuming they're not the same thing)? Oh well, it's still
an improvement.

DSK

Hopefully it was mostly passive, but just aggressive enough to get the
point across.

--
John H.


DSK...........I hope you were kidding.

If not and if this group is now going to micromanage posts to decide the
quality or worthiness of them based on some sort of psychological modeling
then it is time for me to move on. ;-)

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 18:35:53 -0500, DSK wrote:

injector pens loaded
with several types of emergency meds

===================

They actually make stuff like that?

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Every boater who travels more than a couple of dozen miles from shore
should
consider carrying an Automatic External Defibrillator. They're available
OTC from Sams club for under $1500...and are absolutely fool-proof to
use.


wrote:
As well as a bomb shelter, radiation suits, a couple of quarts of blood
of the same type as each person on board, a staffed hospital room,
helicopter for EVAC operations, complete antivenom kit, and the list
goes on.....how careful and prepared do you want to be?


Well, that depends on how large your vessel is, how many people you take
aboard, and how long you expect to be away from "civilization" (those of
us who know where & what it is, to begin with).

For a 36' cruising boat, an anti-venom kit & an auto defibrillator, an
inflatable splint, injector pens loaded with several types of emergency
meds, are not at all excessive IMHO.

Some people in this newsgroup have boats big enough for a helo deck, but I
personally don't. Should I be snide about it?

DSK
I'd only qualify the above in that the age and condition of your passengers
should be taken into consideration when choosing (economics again) what to
take with you on trips. As most of this group is 50 or over I think the
defib unit is a good idea, but I'm a fair weather day boater so I can't
justify it.

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

injector pens loaded
with several types of emergency meds



Wayne.B wrote:
They actually make stuff like that?


Oh yes. But you need a prescription. Our state medical
university has a "Travel Medicine" dept... this may have a
different name in different places, the doc that decides you
need Cipro or Malarone or whatever. We made up a list of
what we wanted to have on hand, and asked for
specifically... didn't get some things.

The bad news is that they expire so you have to plan
accordingly.

Another possibility to keep in mind is getting a
certification as an EMT. That opens some doors too, and
isn't too difficult.

Fair Skies
Doug King

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:11:54 -0500, DSK wrote:

Another possibility to keep in mind is getting a
certification as an EMT. That opens some doors too, and
isn't too difficult.

We used to have a family doctor at one time who was also a sailor. He
was pretty good about keeping our emergency kit stocked when we needed
it for distance racing. Unfortunately he retired and moved to the
AVI. Very inconsiderate. :-)

EMT certification is probably a good idea for anyone carrying serious
pharmaceuticals and/or medical equipment. It would be doubly tragic
to make a bad situation worse in my opinion.

First, do no harm...

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

Another possibility to keep in mind is getting a
certification as an EMT. That opens some doors too, and
isn't too difficult.


Wayne.B wrote:
We used to have a family doctor at one time who was also a sailor. He
was pretty good about keeping our emergency kit stocked when we needed
it for distance racing. Unfortunately he retired and moved to the
AVI. Very inconsiderate. :-)

You can't lure him back for some cruising on your luxury
vessel??!

Doctors get a lot of nice invites, to do the Bermuda Race
for example.


EMT certification is probably a good idea for anyone carrying serious
pharmaceuticals and/or medical equipment. It would be doubly tragic
to make a bad situation worse in my opinion.

First, do no harm...


Exactly. Good thing about the Internet Age: up-to-date
training is only a mouse click away.

Another thing I've got in mind is that some foreign
officials might get rather irritated if you show up with
meds and no paperwork. OTOH I don't feel like playing
roulette with emergency med supplies, having experienced a
few times the wonders of 3rd world health care and what you
get in emergencies once you venture outside the 911 grid.

Fair Skies-
Doug King