Heart Attacks While Boating
 

Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Jeff Rigby wrote:
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4 tablets.
For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both
stroke & heart attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And
giving it as quickly as possible is important, too.

.... An antihistamine would
be good to have on board. If diving, 100% oxygen is the second best
treatment for the bends, 1st is getting them back to depth, if I remember
from dive class twice the decompression depth they should have stopped at on
the way up. But sometimes you can't do that (no air in tank or they have
passed out).


A small oxygen tank with a breather would be an excellent
1st aid tool to have on board, thanks for th esuggestion.
But it really has to be stowed & handled properly... oxygen
is not itself explosive (although the pressurized container
is), it is the most powerful oxidant and makes anything
that's even slightly flammable into a tremendous hazard.

For example, I've been told that oxygen will make many
brands of sunscreen burn like gasoline... and oxygen will
make gasoline explode at room temperature.

GPS and vhf radio that broadcasts your position, necessary if you have a
wife who is directionally disabled.

Aspirin, antihistamine, antacid tablets, first aid kit, Imodium, sea
sickness pills, salt tablets (not all of us are on the ocean), potassium if
on long trips, gator aide


Don't forget Cipro!

Fair Skies
Doug King

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 07:40:07 -0500, DSK wrote:

Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Jeff Rigby wrote:
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4 tablets.
For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both
stroke & heart attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And
giving it as quickly as possible is important, too.

.... An antihistamine would
be good to have on board. If diving, 100% oxygen is the second best
treatment for the bends, 1st is getting them back to depth, if I remember
from dive class twice the decompression depth they should have stopped at on
the way up. But sometimes you can't do that (no air in tank or they have
passed out).


A small oxygen tank with a breather would be an excellent
1st aid tool to have on board, thanks for th esuggestion.
But it really has to be stowed & handled properly... oxygen
is not itself explosive (although the pressurized container
is), it is the most powerful oxidant and makes anything
that's even slightly flammable into a tremendous hazard.

For example, I've been told that oxygen will make many
brands of sunscreen burn like gasoline... and oxygen will
make gasoline explode at room temperature.

GPS and vhf radio that broadcasts your position, necessary if you have a
wife who is directionally disabled.

Aspirin, antihistamine, antacid tablets, first aid kit, Imodium, sea
sickness pills, salt tablets (not all of us are on the ocean), potassium if
on long trips, gator aide


Don't forget Cipro!

Fair Skies
Doug King

Although I don't do any blue water boating, this was a pretty good thread. At least
it reminded me to 'freshen' the aspirins, etc. in the first aid kit!

--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
. ..

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
Every boater who travels more than a couple of dozen miles from shore
should consider carrying an Automatic External Defibrillator. They're
available OTC from Sams club for under $1500...and are absolutely
fool-proof to use.


Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4 tablets.
For other symptoms you might do more harm than good. An antihistamine
would be good to have on board. If diving, 100% oxygen is the second best
treatment for the bends,

Oxygen is also the best first-line treatment for virtually any
cardiovascular problem.

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Jeff Rigby wrote:
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4 tablets.
For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both stroke & heart
attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And giving it as quickly as
possible is important, too.

If Sharon was given aspirin for his hemorrhagic stroke, he'd probably be
dead right now. He may die anyhow, but aspirin would have worsened the
bleed.





.... An antihistamine would be good to have on board. If diving, 100%
oxygen is the second best treatment for the bends, 1st is getting them
back to depth, if I remember from dive class twice the decompression
depth they should have stopped at on the way up. But sometimes you can't
do that (no air in tank or they have passed out).


A small oxygen tank with a breather would be an excellent 1st aid tool to
have on board, thanks for th esuggestion. But it really has to be stowed &
handled properly... oxygen is not itself explosive (although the
pressurized container is), it is the most powerful oxidant and makes
anything that's even slightly flammable into a tremendous hazard.

For example, I've been told that oxygen will make many brands of sunscreen
burn like gasoline... and oxygen will make gasoline explode at room
temperature.

GPS and vhf radio that broadcasts your position, necessary if you have a
wife who is directionally disabled.

Aspirin, antihistamine, antacid tablets, first aid kit, Imodium, sea
sickness pills, salt tablets (not all of us are on the ocean), potassium
if on long trips, gator aide

Don't forget Cipro!

You worried about anthrax on the high seas?

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4 tablets.
For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both stroke & heart
attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And giving it as quickly as
possible is important, too.


NOYB wrote:
If Sharon was given aspirin for his hemorrhagic stroke, he'd probably be
dead right now. He may die anyhow, but aspirin would have worsened the
bleed.


OK, guess it's time for me to do a review course.


Aspirin, antihistamine, antacid tablets, first aid kit, Imodium, sea
sickness pills, salt tablets (not all of us are on the ocean), potassium
if on long trips, gator aide

Don't forget Cipro!


You worried about anthrax on the high seas?


No. Cipro is a great travel med... quickly cures all kinds
of GI infections & infestations. I carry some all the time,
fortunately have only had to use it once.

I didn't know Cipro was good for anthrax, too.

DSK

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

NOYB,

My feeling is if you are boating and die from a heart attack or a stroke, it
might be a blessing. I am not scared of dying. My fear is being kept
alive artificially when it is my day to die. I think back to the movie
"Little Big Man" and the Chief Dan George saying "Today is a good day to
die".

There are worse ways to go, than dying quickly doing something you enjoy.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Jeff Rigby wrote:
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4
tablets. For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both stroke & heart
attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And giving it as quickly as
possible is important, too.

If Sharon was given aspirin for his hemorrhagic stroke, he'd probably be
dead right now. He may die anyhow, but aspirin would have worsened the
bleed.





.... An antihistamine would be good to have on board. If diving, 100%
oxygen is the second best treatment for the bends, 1st is getting them
back to depth, if I remember from dive class twice the decompression
depth they should have stopped at on the way up. But sometimes you
can't do that (no air in tank or they have passed out).


A small oxygen tank with a breather would be an excellent 1st aid tool to
have on board, thanks for th esuggestion. But it really has to be stowed
& handled properly... oxygen is not itself explosive (although the
pressurized container is), it is the most powerful oxidant and makes
anything that's even slightly flammable into a tremendous hazard.

For example, I've been told that oxygen will make many brands of
sunscreen burn like gasoline... and oxygen will make gasoline explode at
room temperature.

GPS and vhf radio that broadcasts your position, necessary if you have a
wife who is directionally disabled.

Aspirin, antihistamine, antacid tablets, first aid kit, Imodium, sea
sickness pills, salt tablets (not all of us are on the ocean), potassium
if on long trips, gator aide

Don't forget Cipro!

You worried about anthrax on the high seas?

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Jeff Rigby wrote:
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4
tablets. For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both stroke & heart
attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And giving it as quickly as
possible is important, too.

If Sharon was given aspirin for his hemorrhagic stroke, he'd probably be
dead right now. He may die anyhow, but aspirin would have worsened the
bleed.

Seems there are more bleeds and ruptured arteries lately, could that be
related to Statin drugs?? My Uncle had a stroke (bleed type), My
father-in-law just died because a small artery in his heart bled into his
pericardial sack and kept the heart from beating properly. Both were on
Statin drugs. In both cases asprin would have been the worst thing for them
to take.



Don't forget Cipro!

You worried about anthrax on the high seas?

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4
tablets. For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both stroke & heart
attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And giving it as quickly as
possible is important, too.


NOYB wrote:
If Sharon was given aspirin for his hemorrhagic stroke, he'd probably be
dead right now. He may die anyhow, but aspirin would have worsened the
bleed.


OK, guess it's time for me to do a review course.

Aspirin is the correct protocol for an ischemic stroke though.




Aspirin, antihistamine, antacid tablets, first aid kit, Imodium, sea
sickness pills, salt tablets (not all of us are on the ocean), potassium
if on long trips, gator aide

Don't forget Cipro!


You worried about anthrax on the high seas?


No. Cipro is a great travel med... quickly cures all kinds of GI
infections & infestations.

It's very good for E. Coli-induced diarrhea...but not anaerobic GI problems
(ie--C. Deficile). For the anaerobes like C. Deficile, you need Flagyl
(metronidazole).

Cipro is also good for urinary track infections and gonorrhea...in case your
vacations are of the sordid type. ;-)


The fluoroquinolones (Cipro, etc) work well for a lot of infections, but one
of the best all-around antibiotics on the market is Augmentin (amoxicillin
with clavulanate to help fight the beta-lactamase-producing bugs). I'm a
big fan of Zithromax and Clindamycin as well. And then carry a dose of
Flagyl in case the Augmentin, Zithromax, or Clindamycin cause a severe case
of antibiotic-induced colitis.

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
NOYB,

My feeling is if you are boating and die from a heart attack or a stroke,
it might be a blessing. I am not scared of dying.


I yearn to live for my family's sake...not my own.

Heart Attacks While Boating
 

"Jeff Rigby" wrote in message
. ..

"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Anybody carrying a defibrilator?

Any other good ideas to share?


Jeff Rigby wrote:
Aspirin!!!, for chest pains and can't get your breath, Aspirin 4
tablets. For other symptoms you might do more harm than good.

That's true, but isn't the general rule of thumb for both stroke & heart
attack, 'when in doubt, give aspirin'? And giving it as quickly as
possible is important, too.

If Sharon was given aspirin for his hemorrhagic stroke, he'd probably be
dead right now. He may die anyhow, but aspirin would have worsened the
bleed.

Seems there are more bleeds and ruptured arteries lately, could that be
related to Statin drugs??

I dunno. I've never heard of increased rates of bleeding from the statins.

Things like aspirin and ibuprofen have a much larger effect on bleeding
times...and those are available OTC, so people pop them like candy.