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"Butch Davis" wrote in message k.net... I'd love to have a bigger boat, but...... I'll need a bigger income to go with it. I downsized from a 24 SeaRay Sundancer to a 16 Whaler and am very happy with the change. The Whaler is on a trailer in my back yard. I can launch and retrieve it by myself under some pretty foul conditions. It burns so little fuel with a 115 FICHT that it's hardly noticable. It's a great little fishing boat and with the bimini mounted it makes a nice little cruiser for the wife and I and another couple if we wish. I can wash and wax the hull in a couple of hours. Would I like a larger boat? Absolutely. I'd like to live aboard for a few weeks at a stretch. I'd like something around 50 feet or less that will not require a crew. But then comes slip rent, maintenance, etc. Doubt that I'd do it even if I had the income to support it. If I did, I'd keep the Whaler anyway just for the fun it provides. Butch wrote in message oups.com... We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? But did you factor in the chiropractor cost? |
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On 31 Dec 2005 16:29:49 -0800, "RG" wrote:
Yeah, shutter lag was a big issue, and part of what I lump into my catch-all that I call responsiveness. In addition to shutter lag, I missed a direct mechanical zoom ring on the lens with the point and shoot and I never liked the rangefinder viewing mechanism for composition, or using the LCD preview for composition for that matter. All these things I refer to as the responsiveness of the camera, and the point and shoots just don't get it done for me like an SLR body does. The only annoyance I've discovered with a DSLR over a point and shoot is the ever present issue of crud on the sensor. It took a while, but I've finally gotten fairly competent at cleaning the sensor. It was never an issue with 35mm film cameras or the point and shoots, and I was taken by surprise at how much of an issue it is with DSLR's. Have you found it to be much of an issue? I concur with almost everything above! No, I've not found the crud on the sensor to be a big issue, yet. When I sent the D70 in for repair, they cleaned it at no charge. The D200 is clean because I only infrequently change the lens. When I do, I do it very fast with the body lens opening held downwards. I try to let gravity be my friend. I gave the 5700 to my wife, and she thinks it's just great. I encourage that, 'cause I don't want her messing with the D200! -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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Bill McKee wrote:
Oregon built Jetcraft. Is a 1991 hull, with a 2005 motor. and a 2002 paint job. Just out of curiosity is that a Kodiak pump? How many hours on the pump? Any rebuilds or impeller service needed? thanks -rick- |
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Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/82080038.htm $55K with twin 200's http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/81868773.htm |
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? Sort of going through that at the moment. We love our boat, but there are a few "isms" we'd change if we could and we think that a 40-footer would be just a bit bigger than our 36 while still retaining a manageable size. Our boating budget is adequate, but not extravagant. It was our good luck to realize a professional windfall recently, and we have considered using a portion to upgrade the boat. We thought that adding $100k to what our current boat should bring would keep our total investment down to a reasonable total, so a new 40-footer ($350k and up) is definitely out of consideration. Our next problem is that our boat is reasonably unique, and we wouldn't find the same characteristics in most available boats. Looks like we'll spend a good chunk to repaint and refurbish "Indulgence" and keep her at least a while longer. I've got one bid for stripping the bottom, repainting the hull and the house, taking all the teak down to bare wood and refinishing with a first "soak" coat, and replacing some water-stained interior veneer that seems pretty reasonable in the mid-30's. With the 2-year old engine and a face lift, we'd be able to be as proud as if we found a near bristol used boat- and just the sales commission to sell "Indulgence" and tax on the difference for a $100k upgrade would run about half of our cost to make the boat we like so well look fairly new again. I crawl through at least one larger boat, 55-70 feet, every month. Nice to dream about, but I think that the smallest boat one can safely enjoy in local conditions is at least as good a choice as the largest boat one can (supposedly) afford. :-) If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets |
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Harry,
How many hours are there on your Parker? "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. |
Ideal size boat
On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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"Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? Sort of going through that at the moment. We love our boat, but there are a few "isms" we'd change if we could and we think that a 40-footer would be just a bit bigger than our 36 while still retaining a manageable size. Our boating budget is adequate, but not extravagant. It was our good luck to realize a professional windfall recently, and we have considered using a portion to upgrade the boat. We thought that adding $100k to what our current boat should bring would keep our total investment down to a reasonable total, so a new 40-footer ($350k and up) is definitely out of consideration. Our next problem is that our boat is reasonably unique, and we wouldn't find the same characteristics in most available boats. Looks like we'll spend a good chunk to repaint and refurbish "Indulgence" and keep her at least a while longer. I've got one bid for stripping the bottom, repainting the hull and the house, taking all the teak down to bare wood and refinishing with a first "soak" coat, and replacing some water-stained interior veneer that seems pretty reasonable in the mid-30's. With the 2-year old engine and a face lift, we'd be able to be as proud as if we found a near bristol used boat- and just the sales commission to sell "Indulgence" and tax on the difference for a $100k upgrade would run about half of our cost to make the boat we like so well look fairly new again. I crawl through at least one larger boat, 55-70 feet, every month. Nice to dream about, but I think that the smallest boat one can safely enjoy in local conditions is at least as good a choice as the largest boat one can (supposedly) afford. :-) If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons · Waste 30 gallons · FreshWater 36 gallons · Cruise at @ 28 mph with top end (fully loaded w/flat sea) @ 40+ mph EQUIPMENT · Vacuflush toilet installed professionally in April, 2000 · 16,000 BTU Marine Air Systems, reverse cycle air/heat with digital controls · U-Line 115v AC icemaker in cockpit area · Truecharge 20 amp smart charge battery trickle charger · Three Group 31 deep cycle batteries with 3 guest switches. Batteries installed April, 2001 · Atwood electric heat/heat exchanging hot water tank (heat exchanger connected in 2000). · Raytheon RL9 LCD radar · Raytheon RayChart 601XX chart plotter/gps with C-map of western Lake Erie · Apelco Fishfinder/GPS/Loran with surface temperature reader · Raymarine digital depth sounder installed April 2001 · Kenwood Excelon KRC-PS655 receiver (am/fm/cassette) with wireless remote, installed March, 1999 · Kenwood Excelon 10 disk CD changer installed March, 1999 · Remote spot/flood light · Transom washdown/shower · Hot/cold pressure water systems with city connection · Fortress FX16 aluminum anchor with 10 feet of steel chain and 150 feet of 1/2" line · Halon 1301 engine compartment automatic extinguisher · Braided 1/2" dock lines (6), life jackets, CG safety package, distress kit, 2 large fenders · Full cockpit Sunbrella cover · Full Sunbrella bimini with aft curtain, side curtains and windshield extension Isenglass |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? I guess so. It was a well built boat, one that took on some pretty nasty seas on Lake Erie without a problem. We were in Leamington, Canada with friend of ours who have a 26 foot Lyman. They absolutely had to leave and the Lake was very nasty. We did not want to leave with the Lake conditions as they were but would not let our friends travel back alone. We ended up leading the way to calm the water for them. Even so, waves were at time coming over their windshield. Yep, it was a well built boat. So tell us about your 36 footer you have for sale. |
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On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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JohnH,
A 100 hrs a year does not seem like many hours, especially one used for fishing. If someone used the boat from May to October that is only 4 hrs a week. If someone had "a lot less" hours on their boat, I would be concerned that the lack of use could actually be more detrimental to a outboard engine, than one that is used on a regular basis. Unless the boat was "fogged" after each use, a boat sitting idle can have more problems than a well maintained boat that is used regularly. I would think most people with a $70,000 boat would use the boat at least 100 hrs a year. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. JohnH, Why would anyone buy a boat from anyone but Harry? Since only Harry's boats have "Harry" hours on it. With the cost of fuel, I doubt if many people run an outboard at WOT. If I was buying a used boat, I would ask for a test run, and ask the current owner to helm the boat. You can quickly see how he uses his boat. If his natural instinct is to keep the boat WOT, I would walk away. If you see the owner brings the boat up to plane and then easily adjusts the throttle to run at a comfortable cruise, it is reasonable to expect that is the way he used his boat. I still maintain that a boat that is used infrequently can have more problems that a boat that is used on a regular basis, is well maintained and the owner follows the manufacturers maintenance schedule. People fog the engine so the internal engine does not have problems with rust. If the boat is not used frequently during the season, that can be just as detrimental as a boat that is not fogged during the off season. This discussion does bring up a great on topic discussion. If you were buying a used boat and the owner was being coy or secretive about his engine hours would you consider buying this boat? I would be concerned that either the engine has more than the average hours, and the cost of the boat/engine is overpriced for the hours used or the boat has sat idle for extended periods, which for me would be a major concern. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. |
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Around here, 50-100 hrs a season seems to be the norm. People tend do
do short runs and then hang out all day, rather than constantly cruise. The PIB trips do add up the hours though. :-) "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message ... JohnH, A 100 hrs a year does not seem like many hours, especially one used for fishing. If someone used the boat from May to October that is only 4 hrs a week. If someone had "a lot less" hours on their boat, I would be concerned that the lack of use could actually be more detrimental to a outboard engine, than one that is used on a regular basis. Unless the boat was "fogged" after each use, a boat sitting idle can have more problems than a well maintained boat that is used regularly. I would think most people with a $70,000 boat would use the boat at least 100 hrs a year. "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season. Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry? |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season. Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry? I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry, but with your price of admission, that's all you get. Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your present course of action. You're not in charge. How much did you have to pay for winterization of your 36 footer and where is it stored? |
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Harry,
I have to agree with you on this one. I think you should be able to provide as much or as little information as you feel comfortable doing. If you do not feel comfortable discussing how often you use your boat or the number of hours on your boat, you should not do it. I have trouble understanding why this information should be secret, but that is your prerogative. I just know I would never buy a boat from anyone who was not upfront with the number of hours on the engine. I for one, follow the advice of Internet Security Experts who recommend no one provide any personal information in public newsgroups, and for that reason I do keep my personal information (i.e. Name, telephone number, social security number etc) off of rec.boats. I would actually recommend anyone who uses their real name in change it to a handle. It would be too easy for someone to use the internet to harass someone or cause them financial or personal harm. Since you don't want to discuss the number of hours on your boat engine (which I would not consider personal info), I am sure you can understand why some people prefer not to publish personal information in a public NG. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. So how many hours are on the engine? Less than 400. Why do you want to know? You're not a potential purchaser. It's not your business. A legitimate buyer will be allowed to see the service records. What's the big secret Harry? Why are you ashamed of telling us how many hours you put on the engine? It's no secret. It's simply none of your business. Yep, you are indeed ashamed of letting everyone know how infrequent you used the boat. No offense, but one of the charming aspects of this newsgroup is the number of simpies who believe they have some sort of "power" over other posters. You're free to draw whatever erroneous conclusions make you happy, Jim. I'm *still* not going to tell you. So how about some details on your 36 footer you are selling? Perhaps someone here may be interested. Yes, I'm sure there are those who are interested in "some details." Not to worry, there is no shortage of potential buyers in the Bay area. What few examples of Lincoln hull designs there are around here are snapped up quickly on the resale market. In fact, there are a couple of guys in the Solomons marina scene here who expressed interest last season. Makes perfect sense to list some details about your 25 foot boat here but not your 36 foot boat when you claim both are for sale. Eh Harry? I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry, but with your price of admission, that's all you get. Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your present course of action. You're not in charge. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
I've listed "some details" of both boats here from time to time. Sorry, but with your price of admission, that's all you get. Now, you should move on, because you are going to get nowhere on your present course of action. You're not in charge. JimH seems awfully interested in your boats. Maybe he's thinking of making an offer one one or the other. What other reason would he have for his incessant questioning? |
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"-rick-" wrote in message ... Bill McKee wrote: Oregon built Jetcraft. Is a 1991 hull, with a 2005 motor. and a 2002 paint job. Just out of curiosity is that a Kodiak pump? How many hours on the pump? Any rebuilds or impeller service needed? thanks -rick- Yes, Kodiak. Original stainless impellers. I have touched up the edges a couple of times, and have replaced the cutlass bearings and seals a couple of times. I have about 1600 hours on the boat. Kodiak 3 stage. I did have the pump gone through when I swapped motors this year (actually last year) and he shimed the impellers, as he said that a lot of the Kodiaks had the wrong spacing to the stators. Phil Taylor of Jetstream Concepts in Yuba City, CA did the work. I have changed the thrust bearing twice. |
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Harry Krause wrote:
Dan Krueger wrote: Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/3/8/82080038.htm $55K with twin 200's http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/7/3/81868773.htm D'oh. Older boats and not the same model. Hardly "equivalent." Understood. I never said equivalent - these are alternatives for the guy shopping for a Parker. |
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message arthlink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan |
Ideal size boat
"Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message . earthlink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes. |
Ideal size boat
JimH wrote:
SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan |
Ideal size boat
"Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines. Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your Parker. |
Ideal size boat
A boat's use is inversely proportional to her length".
That may be true for some but not all. Usage depends more on the owner than anything else: How much do they and their family enjoy boating; How well suited to their favorite use is the boat; How convenient is it to take it out; How much free time do they have, etc? I know people who buy a boat and then find out they don't both enjoy it, or the boat they bought is not right for its intended us. Both of those factors are more important than size. It is also true that no one boat is right for all purposes. We use the GB49 for cruising, both weekend and long range. If I just want to go for a quick spin however, I'll take out the 24. Both boats are equally convenient to take out, but one is built for size and comfort, the other for speed and shallow draft. It is easier to single hand the 24 and that's also a consideration, but not the primary factor. |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines. Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your Parker. I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons, engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those "cruising bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I suspect the hull weights of the two boats are practically the same. You really don't know much about boats. "OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too. Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully. Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong. Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L 250 HP motor and outdrive weighs that much. But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie. You stepped in it again Harry |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes. About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker. Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret also? |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes. About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker. Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret also? More than twice as much. Great. We believe you Harry..........really we do. |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines. Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your Parker. I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons, engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those "cruising bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I suspect the hull weights of the two boats are practically the same. You really don't know much about boats. "OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too. Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully. Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong. No, Jim, all you proved was that a 32' bubble boat weighs more than a 25' fishing boat. D'oh. But you managed to convince yourself again. What a surprise. You brought it up Harry. All I did was prove you wrong. BTW: You conveniently cut this out from your reply so I will ask again. Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L 250 HP motor and outdrive weighs that much. But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie. You stepped in it again Harry |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines. Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your Parker. I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons, engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those "cruising bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I suspect the hull weights of the two boats are practically the same. You really don't know much about boats. "OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too. Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully. Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong. No, Jim, all you proved was that a 32' bubble boat weighs more than a 25' fishing boat. D'oh. But you managed to convince yourself again. What a surprise. You brought it up Harry. All I did was prove you wrong. BTW: You conveniently cut this out from your reply so I will ask again. Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L 250 HP motor and outdrive weighs that much. But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie. You stepped in it again Harry Jim, Jim, Jim. Go learn a little about boat design and post back when you actually know something useful. Anything. So what's a little outdrive like you had weigh? 1000 pounds? Does that include all its wiring? Does that include the prop? Somewhere between 1000 and 1100 pounds? Twice as much as my outboard. Prove it. |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes. About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker. Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret also? More than twice as much. Great. We believe you Harry..........really we do. What *you* believe or don't believe is totally without significance to me, Jim. Despite the forced politeness here, I'm sure you know exactly how I feel about you and the rest of the r.w. d.b.'s . No. I don't know how you feel about me Harry. You had posted just last week that you thought I was OK. I guess the fact that I proved you wrong on a claim of yours in this thread puts me back into your "Not OK" category. Very interesting. So please let me know exactly what you think of me Harry. I think of you as an interesting character, someone I would like to sit over a couple of brews with. Unlike you I could care less about your political leanings and my feeling about you has nothing to do with that. |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs Amazing...a 34-foot, twin engine boat whose dry weight is only 4000 pounds more than my 25-footer. High tech materials? You actually stepped in it again Harry. The weight/foot of my 32 foot boat is still far greater than your 25 footer......65 1/2 pounds/foot to be exact. Tee-hee. ;-) Nice theory, but the beam is 18" wider. Dan OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2. An absolutely idiotic, simple-minded comparison for any number of reasons, not the least of which is the fact that that old bubble boat of yours had about 2600 pounds tied up in engines. Nice try. Take off 1300 pounds and the boat is still heavier/ft2 than your Parker. I said the weight comparison was idiotic for any number of reasons, engine weight being just one. Oh...and my single outboard only weighs about 500 pounds, so keep deducting. And also deduct all those "cruising bubble boat amenities" on that old bubble boat, too. I suspect the hull weights of the two boats are practically the same. You really don't know much about boats. "OK. Taking total square foot (assuming a full beam along the entire length of the boat) mine is still about 20% heavier/ft2." Idiocy in the kind of comparison you are trying to make with boats of two completely different footprints, or on any other basis, too. Try picking your posting positions a bit more carefully. Hey....*you* brought it up................*I* proved you wrong. No, Jim, all you proved was that a 32' bubble boat weighs more than a 25' fishing boat. D'oh. But you managed to convince yourself again. What a surprise. You brought it up Harry. All I did was prove you wrong. BTW: You conveniently cut this out from your reply so I will ask again. Where did you get the 1,300 pounds for the motor weight? I doubt a 5.7L 250 HP motor and outdrive weighs that much. But even using that figure.............you lose. So solly Challie. You stepped in it again Harry Jim, Jim, Jim. Go learn a little about boat design and post back when you actually know something useful. Anything. So what's a little outdrive like you had weigh? 1000 pounds? Does that include all its wiring? Does that include the prop? Somewhere between 1000 and 1100 pounds? Twice as much as my outboard. Prove it. Prove what, Jim, Tee-hee. |
Ideal size boat
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "Dan Krueger" wrote in message ink.net... JimH wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... If I sell my current boats, I'm looking at a couple of 30-32 footers, one a "name brand," and the other built over on the Eastern Shore. After many years, I've decided that is the optimum size for what I want to do on the water, especially since I'm usually the only person aboard with boat-handling skills, and larger boats typically require at least one additional crew member willing to learn line-handling. Most of my fishing buddies feel at the top of their form if they can get into the boat without falling off the dock. We know what you are looking to get for the Parker. How much for the 36 footer? What is she equipped with? crickets Yep. http://tinyurl.com/4ukg4 Are you under the delusion I read all of your posts here? Is Dumbo Dan? The answers: Under $500,000 and everything. You provided exact details on what was on your 25 footer yet details of what is on the more luxurious 36 footer is a big secret. Go figure. Happy New Year Harry. No, I didn't provide "exact details." I provided general details. Exact details would have been sigificantly more "exact." Our Parker is a factory production boat. Its particulars are available on-line at the manufacturer's site. We have some options and I've added a few. That's all there is to that song. Why would you care about the price or options on either boat. You're not a prospective purchaser. I don't recall asking you about the financial transactions or complete equipment lists relating to your boat. You did not have to. A full web page with pictures and description was listed on the net. In fact, you used that source to find out my full name and phone number. Remember? Regardless Harry, here is a detailed listing of what was on our 32 footer when we sold it: SPECS · Twin 5.7L 260 hp Merc with Bravo 2 outdrives · LOA 34'9" · Beam 11'0" · Dry weight 10,800 lbs · Deadrise 17 degrees · Fuel Capacity 186 US gallons Is that right? 186 gallons? That seems awfully small for a boat that size with twin gas engines. Dan Yep. It is not a bluewater boat but well suited for the Great Lakes. About the same fuel capacity as a 25' Parker. Great. How much on your 36 footer, or is that some sort of secret also? More than twice as much. Great. We believe you Harry..........really we do. What *you* believe or don't believe is totally without significance to me, Jim. Despite the forced politeness here, I'm sure you know exactly how I feel about you and the rest of the r.w. d.b.'s . No. I don't know how you feel about me Harry. You had posted just last week that you thought I was OK. I guess the fact that I proved you wrong on a claim of yours in this thread puts me back into your "Not OK" category. Very interesting. You haven't proved anything, except to yourself. Tee-hee. |
Ideal size boat
On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 12:58:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Sun, 01 Jan 2006 10:49:44 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:17:42 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:56:03 -0500, "Reggie Smithers" wrote: JohnH, Here is anice Parker 2520 XL Pilothouse for $53.500 http://www.usedboats.com/used-boat-648705.htm "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:07:40 -0500, Harry Krause wrote: JohnH wrote: On 31 Dec 2005 08:10:32 -0800, " wrote: We all occasionally wish for a larger boat but would we really buy one if we were able? I have decided "No", my 28' S2 is ideal for me. A larger boat would have more to go wrong and require more expense. My 28 is ideal for me as she is large enough to do a lot of things but small enough for me to easily single-hand which I do a lot. The older I get, the happier I am to not have a larger boat. This past 6 months is the first time I have ever had her in a marina ( I kept her at pvt docks for years) and I have noticed what I have heard about for years, "A boats use is inversely proportional to her length". Do others here have a simialr experience of realizing they do not want a bigger boat? I go through the 'bigger boat' desires every year. After a while I convince myself that the 21'er I've got does what I want to do just fine. But, if Harry were to make me a super deal on that Parker, I'd give it serious thought. There's a boat similar to mine on Boat Trader for $69,000. It has a lesser engine, a lesser trailer, but has radar. Might be an "equivalent." Assume for the moment it is. What's your best offer? I'd have to visit and talk to the folks at TriState. I wouldn't want to give a number without having made the decision to go for another boat, which would be a big decision for me (not like trading up from a D70 to a D200). -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes That *is* nice, and reasonably priced. 400+ engine hours. Is that a lot for that Yamaha four stroke? How many are on yours? A lot less. Would you consider 400 hours a lot for that Yamaha 4-stroke? A lot in terms of what, typical lifespan in hours? Depends. If they were careful "Harry" hours, no. If they were 400 hours on the firewall, well, yes, that would be a lot. I'm not your typical outboarder, though. I watch the tach and the fuel flow meter, not the speedometer. i would expect most Parker owners would not be firewall type operators. -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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