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JimH,

This is exactly what I need, it uses one tenth the power of a 12 volt bulb.

I saw that there were some all around LED lights to replace the 12 volt
bulbs, but they were substantially more expensive, and only saved 1/2 the
power.

I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.


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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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JimH,

I have a deep cycle gel battery, When I use my anchor light, it has never
made it through the night without being completely discharged. Is this
normal?


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First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You said
600 ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be
minimal when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about
.02 amps, times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about 12v
times .12 or about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you factor
in the LED drop, whatever it is. Significantly less than a regular
light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be
seen, what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



What is the benefit for a boater on the hook overnight besides having a
brighter anchor light? Is there a significant less draw on the house
battery over a 10 hour period?







I never had that problem.

Something you can consider is a portable anchor light such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/akeg7




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I'll bet it was the bulb in the refrigerator that did it!


On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:37:53 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"
wrote:

JimH,

This is exactly what I need, it uses one tenth the power of a 12 volt bulb.

I saw that there were some all around LED lights to replace the 12 volt
bulbs, but they were substantially more expensive, and only saved 1/2 the
power.

I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
JimH,

I have a deep cycle gel battery, When I use my anchor light, it has never
made it through the night without being completely discharged. Is this
normal?


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news
wrote in message
ups.com...
First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You said
600 ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be
minimal when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about
.02 amps, times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about 12v
times .12 or about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you factor
in the LED drop, whatever it is. Significantly less than a regular
light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be
seen, what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



What is the benefit for a boater on the hook overnight besides having a
brighter anchor light? Is there a significant less draw on the house
battery over a 10 hour period?







I never had that problem.

Something you can consider is a portable anchor light such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/akeg7





--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it."
Rene Descartes
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Reggie Smithers
 
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JohnH,
You might be correct, we keep the refrigerator door open so we could have a
nightlight on. ; )


"JohnH" wrote in message
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I'll bet it was the bulb in the refrigerator that did it!


On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:37:53 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:

JimH,

This is exactly what I need, it uses one tenth the power of a 12 volt
bulb.

I saw that there were some all around LED lights to replace the 12 volt
bulbs, but they were substantially more expensive, and only saved 1/2 the
power.

I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
JimH,

I have a deep cycle gel battery, When I use my anchor light, it has
never
made it through the night without being completely discharged. Is this
normal?


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news
wrote in message
ups.com...
First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one
single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You
said
600 ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be
minimal when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about
.02 amps, times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about
12v
times .12 or about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you factor
in the LED drop, whatever it is. Significantly less than a regular
light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would
be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be
seen, what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



What is the benefit for a boater on the hook overnight besides having
a
brighter anchor light? Is there a significant less draw on the house
battery over a 10 hour period?







I never had that problem.

Something you can consider is a portable anchor light such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/akeg7





--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes



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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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JohnH,
You might be correct, we keep the refrigerator door open so we could have
a nightlight on. ; )


"JohnH" wrote in message
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I'll bet it was the bulb in the refrigerator that did it!


On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:37:53 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:

JimH,

This is exactly what I need, it uses one tenth the power of a 12 volt
bulb.

I saw that there were some all around LED lights to replace the 12 volt
bulbs, but they were substantially more expensive, and only saved 1/2 the
power.

I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
JimH,

I have a deep cycle gel battery, When I use my anchor light, it has
never
made it through the night without being completely discharged. Is
this
normal?


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news
wrote in message
ups.com...
First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one
single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You
said
600 ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be
minimal when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be
about
.02 amps, times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about
12v
times .12 or about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you
factor
in the LED drop, whatever it is. Significantly less than a
regular
light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would
be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be
seen, what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



What is the benefit for a boater on the hook overnight besides having
a
brighter anchor light? Is there a significant less draw on the
house
battery over a 10 hour period?







I never had that problem.

Something you can consider is a portable anchor light such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/akeg7





--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary
to resolve it."
Rene Descartes




It also keeps the cabin cool. ;-)


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Nah. The light in the fridge goes out when you close the
door........................................I think.
"JohnH" wrote in message
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I'll bet it was the bulb in the refrigerator that did it!


On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:37:53 -0500, "Reggie Smithers"

wrote:

JimH,

This is exactly what I need, it uses one tenth the power of a 12 volt
bulb.

I saw that there were some all around LED lights to replace the 12 volt
bulbs, but they were substantially more expensive, and only saved 1/2 the
power.

I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
...
JimH,

I have a deep cycle gel battery, When I use my anchor light, it has
never
made it through the night without being completely discharged. Is this
normal?


" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

" JimH" wrote in message
...

"Bill McKee" wrote in message
.net...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
news
wrote in message
ups.com...
First version, otherwise why use 6 resistors instead of one
single
lower ohmage one of higher power.


I was trying to roughly calculate the power requirements. You
said
600 ohm resistors, correct? The voltage drop on the LED will be
minimal when forward biased or "on", so each branch must be about
.02 amps, times six equals .12 amps, so the power must be about
12v
times .12 or about 1.4 watts. Probably a bit more when you factor
in the LED drop, whatever it is. Significantly less than a regular
light bulb!

Eisboch


Most LED's are in the 400mw range.


How about the standard 12v bulb used for anchor lights?

I don't know what their wattage rating typically is. My guess would
be
somewhere between 10 - 20 watts, given that they are required to be
seen, what, 2 miles away at night?

Eisboch



What is the benefit for a boater on the hook overnight besides having
a
brighter anchor light? Is there a significant less draw on the house
battery over a 10 hour period?







I never had that problem.

Something you can consider is a portable anchor light such as this one
http://tinyurl.com/akeg7





--
John H.

"Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to
resolve it."
Rene Descartes





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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 17:59:18 GMT, "JIMinFL"
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Nah. The light in the fridge goes out when you close the
door........................................I think.


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It had better, otherwise it will keep Schrodinger's cat awake.

http://www.phobe.com/s_cat/s_cat.html

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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.



WHACK on the head!

All my calculations for naught ....

Eisboch


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Since my boat came with 2 batteries, and this is similar to most of the
smaller cruisers I have seen, how do most people handle the refrigerator at
night, do they only keep it on when the engine is running?

Without some major work, it would be hard to add a 3 rd battery in the
bilge.



"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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I forgot to mention that the Gel Deep Cycle battery also powered the
refrigerator, so that is probably why it always died during the night.



WHACK on the head!

All my calculations for naught ....

Eisboch



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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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Since my boat came with 2 batteries, and this is similar to most of the
smaller cruisers I have seen, how do most people handle the refrigerator
at night, do they only keep it on when the engine is running?


Without a generator, a cooler and lotsa ice is your best bet. A refer will
kill a group 24 or 27 battery in about 4-6 hours.


Eisboch


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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
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Since my boat came with 2 batteries, and this is similar to most of the
smaller cruisers I have seen, how do most people handle the refrigerator
at night, do they only keep it on when the engine is running?


Without a generator, a cooler and lotsa ice is your best bet. A refer
will kill a group 24 or 27 battery in about 4-6 hours.


Eisboch


We never had a problem running a refrigerator while away from shorepower
overnight. But the boat had 3 group 31 deep cycle batteries though.




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