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Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message m... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. |
Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
" JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message om... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. |
OT: Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I
have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message m... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4ax. com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message om... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4ax .com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Reggie Smithers" wrote in message
. .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html Yeah...PC Magazine has been consistent in their support for ZA , also. I currently use it as firewall, but not the full security suite with av protection. I'm still using Norton Antivirus for that. This computer's about the be replaced, though. I may go with the all-in-one ZA on the next one. We'll see. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
" JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4ax. com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4a x.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Have you found that it misses OLD spyware threats, or just NEW ones? If new, how long before it catches up with the other programs? It's an odd thing I've noticed about spyware, and reviewers have said the same thing: A program like Adaware may be days or weeks behind Spybot in terms of recognizing a specific threat, or vice versa. But, AV manufacturers (Symantec, McAfee, etc) tend to be hours or perhaps a day apart, at worst, when a new virus is discovered. It makes no sense because there have been spyware threats which were every bit as serious as some viruses. It's as if they're not taken as seriously. |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "Reggie Smithers" wrote in message . .. ZoneAlarm Security Suite has done a great job for me, for over a year. I have not had a problem with Spyware or a Virus even though I do download freeware and trialware from many sites. I picked this based upon the recommendations of CNET. "ZoneAlarm Security Suite puts Norton and McAfee to shame with its easy-to-use triple-layer firewall, antivirus, antispam, and now antispyware features." http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3667_7-6375268.html "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... " JimH" wrote in message ... "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 01:02:32 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:a07pq11b9gab0f0764h9qlourn1jvm6trp@4ax .com... On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:07:34 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message news:791pq15flf2609seskcrgjfg9mmdfe0kd2@4 ax.com... On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:04:59 GMT, "Doug Kanter" wrote: Oh please...freeware is not automatically equal to spyware. If you don't trust Tucows, visit www.download.com (cNet) instead. It's somewhat more businesslike, and they really do check things carefully. ====================================== CNET has come in for their share of grief also. I was a downloader par excellence at one time but I've backed off after a few bad experiences. If someone is charging decent money for the software, at least there's an organization to go after if it messes up your computer. I prefer to let others do the beta testing. If you had a real firewall, you wouldn't give a damn about spyware, John. What firewall do you use? I wasn't the one worried about the spyware. I'm the one who suggested the program to be downloaded. I use McAfee, spybot, and adaware. So far I've been pretty lucky. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** McAfee *what*? Does it include a firewall which controls *outbound* nasties? The one that's included with Windows XP only deals with inbound stuff. McAfee Personal Firewall Plus. You specify, for each program, what it can do. You can allow or block inbound or outbound or both. -- John H **** May your Christmas be Spectacular!**** *****...and your New Year even Better!***** A firewall alone will not stop spyware. Recommended programs to install: Spydefense Microsoft Antispyware SpywareBlaster Adaware Spybot The first 3 run in the background using very little resources. You manually scan your system with the last 2 after updating the definitions. I believe all are free. It depends on what you mean by "stop". For years, ZoneAlarm has been able to stop *any* program trying to send data outbound without your permission. It was up to you to determine a course of action when a detection was made. Recently, the program added the ability to detect the actual identity of spyware, in the same way as Adaware and Spybot. Sure. Try running the programs I suggested to see what a good job ZoneAlarm has done for you blocking spyware. I guarantee you that you will be amazed at how much spyware you have on your machine if you rely on ZoneAlarm only. Have you found that it misses OLD spyware threats, or just NEW ones? If new, how long before it catches up with the other programs? It's an odd thing I've noticed about spyware, and reviewers have said the same thing: A program like Adaware may be days or weeks behind Spybot in terms of recognizing a specific threat, or vice versa. But, AV manufacturers (Symantec, McAfee, etc) tend to be hours or perhaps a day apart, at worst, when a new virus is discovered. It makes no sense because there have been spyware threats which were every bit as serious as some viruses. It's as if they're not taken as seriously. My protection consists of the programs listed above plus ZoneAlarm plus Avast antivirus (automatic updates and scans every night). |
Internet Security Suites was Yo - John H (and other photo folks)
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 11:02:20 -0500, JimH wrote:
My protection consists of the programs listed above plus ZoneAlarm plus Avast antivirus (automatic updates and scans every night). My protection consists of running non-Microsoft products. ;-) Sorry, I couldn't resist. |
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