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NOYB wrote:

Nothing about killing the men, and enslaving the women like our Muslim
fundies want?

Really? How about this:

Proposed 'Godly Fumigation' of Non-Christians

It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great
builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because
Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love
of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our]
institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying
institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is
universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The
termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and
the time has arrived for a godly fumigation.
-- Pat Robertson, New York Magazine, August 18, 1986







And this:
Audience Participant: "I've been reading through the Book of Numbers
recently, and come across that passage in Chapter 31 about the
destruction of the Midianites. How do you explain that apparent
travesty of the destruction of that people with the just and holy God?"

Pat Robertson: The wars of extermination have given a lot of people
trouble unless they understand fully what was going on. The people in
the land of Palestine were very wicked. They were given over to
idolatry. They sacrificed their children. They had all kinds of
abominable sex practices. They were having sex apparently with animals.
They were having sex men with men and women with women. They were
committing adultery and fornication. They were serving idols. As I say,
they were offering their children up, and they were forsaking God.

God told the Israelites to kill them all: men, women and children; to
destroy them. And that seems like a terrible thing to do. Is it or
isn't it? Well, let us assume that there were two thousand of them or
ten thousand of them living in the land, or whatever number, I don't
have the exact number, but pick a number. And God said, "Kill them
all." Well, that would seem hard, wouldn't it? But that would be 10,000
people who probably would go to hell. But if they stayed and
reproduced, in thirty, forty or fifty or sixty or a hundred more years
there could conceivably be ... ten thousand would grow to a hundred, a
hundred thousand conceivably could grow to a million, and there would
be a million people who would have to spend an eternity in Hell! And it
is far more merciful to take away a few than to see in the future a
hundred years down the road, and say, "Well, I'll have to take away a
million people, that will be forever apart from God because the
abomination is there." It's like a contagion. God saw that there was no
cure for it. It wasn't going to change, and all they would do is cause
trouble for the Israelites and pull the Israelites away from God and
prevent the truth of God from reaching the earth. And so God in love --
and that was a loving thing -- took away a small number that he might
not have to take away a large number



If you follow the Bible, you know that most religions believe that there
were historical times when the Earth was beset by natural disasters brought
on by God's wrath at mans' sins.

But there is a difference between believing that God should punish the
sinners, and believing that man ought to do it for him.

The Muslim fundies believe they are doing Allah's work by bringing death and
destruction upon the infidels.

The Christian fundies believe that it is up to God Himself to bring the
death and destruction.

There's a big difference in those two idealogies.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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But to suggest that the Christian right is anything like the Muslim
fundamentalists is an outright joke.

An awful lot of them cheered when Bernard Slepian was murdered.

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Doug,
I must have missed that TV or Newspaper Report concerning the cheering
Christians.

Do you have a link?

I thought ALL reputable Christian groups denounced anyone hurting or
killing, even doctors who performed abortions.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
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But to suggest that the Christian right is anything like the Muslim
fundamentalists is an outright joke.

An awful lot of them cheered when Bernard Slepian was murdered.

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"Lord Reginald Smithers" The fastest and most accurate Gun in the World
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Doug,
I must have missed that TV or Newspaper Report concerning the cheering
Christians.

Do you have a link?

Don't be a smartass.



I thought ALL reputable Christian groups denounced anyone hurting or
killing, even doctors who performed abortions.

Even the ones who sheltered the killer before he left for Europe?

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:

It figures you'd be an admirer of Pat Robertson.

Really? Where'd I say that?

I'm not a fan of extremists on either end of the spectrum. But to
suggest that the Christian right is anything like the Muslim
fundamentalists is an outright joke.

The goal is the same: world domination.




There's no real difference between Christian fundies and Muslim fundies,
in terms of "controlling" the population.

That's true for most religions. Don't eat meat on Fridays. Don't eat
pork. Don't commit adultry. Don't drink alcohol. Keep Holy the Sabbath.
Do unto to others...

We obviously are not defining control in the same way here.


If the time comes that the Christian fundies get what they want, the
executions will follow in short order.

LOL. You're ****ed in the head.

Really? Are you claiming that Christians haven't executed "non-believers"
or people of other faiths for "religious" reasons?

Not in the US...at least for the last century or so.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


If you follow the Bible, you know that most religions believe that there
were historical times when the Earth was beset by natural disasters
brought on by God's wrath at mans' sins.

But there is a difference between believing that God should punish the
sinners, and believing that man ought to do it for him.

The Muslim fundies believe they are doing Allah's work by bringing death
and destruction upon the infidels.

The Christian fundies believe that it is up to God Himself to bring the
death and destruction.

There's a big difference in those two idealogies.

Ahh.

The Roman Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Crusades were just an exception
The European Christian slaughter of Central Americans was an exception
The American Christian hanging of "witches" was an exception
The Nazi Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Serbian Christian slaughter of Muslims was an exception


Other than these examples, and dozens of others, the Christians believe it
is up to God himself to bring death and destruction.


You guys are stating that "Big Time Christians" favor such actions today.
That's absurd.

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


If you follow the Bible, you know that most religions believe that there
were historical times when the Earth was beset by natural disasters
brought on by God's wrath at mans' sins.

But there is a difference between believing that God should punish the
sinners, and believing that man ought to do it for him.

The Muslim fundies believe they are doing Allah's work by bringing death
and destruction upon the infidels.

The Christian fundies believe that it is up to God Himself to bring the
death and destruction.

There's a big difference in those two idealogies.

Ahh.

The Roman Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Crusades were just an exception
The European Christian slaughter of Central Americans was an exception
The American Christian hanging of "witches" was an exception
The Nazi Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Serbian Christian slaughter of Muslims was an exception


Other than these examples, and dozens of others, the Christians believe
it is up to God himself to bring death and destruction.


You guys are stating that "Big Time Christians" favor such actions today.
That's absurd.

All missionary work theoretically doesn't include violence, as it used to,
it still suggests a certain lack of respect for other cultures.

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NOYB,

Historically atheist or agnostic have committed genocide and killed millions
of people.

If one follows Harry's reasoning, one has to be very careful of atheist or
agnostic. If you are not careful, they will want to kill millions of
people.


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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:


If you follow the Bible, you know that most religions believe that there
were historical times when the Earth was beset by natural disasters
brought on by God's wrath at mans' sins.

But there is a difference between believing that God should punish the
sinners, and believing that man ought to do it for him.

The Muslim fundies believe they are doing Allah's work by bringing death
and destruction upon the infidels.

The Christian fundies believe that it is up to God Himself to bring the
death and destruction.

There's a big difference in those two idealogies.

Ahh.

The Roman Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Crusades were just an exception
The European Christian slaughter of Central Americans was an exception
The American Christian hanging of "witches" was an exception
The Nazi Christian slaughter of the Jews was an exception
The Serbian Christian slaughter of Muslims was an exception


Other than these examples, and dozens of others, the Christians believe
it is up to God himself to bring death and destruction.


You guys are stating that "Big Time Christians" favor such actions today.
That's absurd.

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Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
NOYB,

Historically atheist or agnostic have committed genocide and killed millions
of people.

Historically, Christians have committeed genocide and killed millions
of people.

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Kevin,

So have atheist, agnostics, Muslims, those belonging to numerous Asian
Religions and to a lesser degree Jews. Maybe we should kill them all and
let God sort it out.


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Lord Reginald Smithers wrote:
NOYB,

Historically atheist or agnostic have committed genocide and killed
millions
of people.

Historically, Christians have committeed genocide and killed millions
of people.