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Skipper December 12th 05 05:00 AM

déjà vu all over again
 
Bert Robbins wrote:

Consumer Reports is a joke. They just do cursory evaluations of the
vehicles.


They're even worse with their boat reports. Many of the reports stoop to
the misleading superficial levels of a Chucky boat review.

--
Skipper

FREDO December 12th 05 05:44 AM

déjà vu all over again :Subaru
 
Subaru's are designed to crumple in order to absorb impact. Also, they are
designed to push the engine and transmission downward under the passenger
compartment in a frontal crash via a "Pitching Stopper" to lessen the
possibility of the engine coming into the passenger compartment. They
consistently receive 5 star ratings from the U.S. government in crash
testing.

A proud owner of a 93 Legacy sedan 148,000 miles, 96 Outback wagon 175,000
miles, 05 Legacy sedan 2100 miles and 00 GMC Z-71 165,000 miles.
All are still running well.

OBTW I just tried some Lucas oil stabilizer for the first time and man does
that stuff work great!


Fredo

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
It is time for the Subaru story again? You know - the one where a guy
stole a Honda 125, shot out of an intersection and my wife broadsided
him - couldn't avoid him? And where the owner of the Honda came to
get his motorcycle, picked it up, started it and drove it home while
the Subaru has to be towed and subsequently was totaled with $9,000
worth of damage?


Probably what saved her life. If she was driving a Ford, there would be a
good chance she would come out with something worse than a bruising.

Plus, do you believe another car would have less damage? Subarus are
extremely solid. Looks what people race at rallies where you drive these,
un modified in many cases, 80 MPH on dirt roads... Show me one American
car that could take that abuse...




FREDO December 12th 05 05:56 AM

déjà vu all over again
 
I had a 94 F-150 XLT Lariat best pulling truck I ever had in 4X4 (locking
front and rear differentials).
But man it was not reliable!

In 36,000 miles and 1 year it had the following repairs:

brake pads and rotors replaced 4 times (rotors kept warping)

fan clutch replaced 2 times

HVAC repaired 3 times they finally found the orifice was missing from the
system, the darn thing would only blow cold air while traveling on the
interstate, any time you went to in town traffic mode it blew hot air.

Radio quit 2 times.

So I traded it on my 96 Subaru Outback and so far it has never been in for
any repairs.

My 00 GMC has had the transfer case replaced, the steering gearbox replaced
and the P/S pump replaced (all under warranty) since then it has been a
truly reliable vehicle.

I wish you well with your Ford quality issues.


"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
To those that read my "trip to hell" back in November where I spend 5
days in a hotel room in Georgia while they fixed my super duty Ford 350
.....

I just got back from my final trip to Florida - picked up the Scout
(another story) and started the trip back to MA. Got to Norfork and
visited Eisboch Jr. and his very pregnant wife, then headed north towing
the Scout. Got as far as Fredricksburg, VA and the new, heavy duty
diesel Ford 350 died again.

After all kinds of debates and decisions, I ended up hiring the tow
company to transport the dead Ford, with a 20' Scout in tow, all the way
from VA to MA.

We dropped off the boat in my driveway, then continued to Plymouth, MA
and dropped off the dead Ford in the dealer's lot. Gonna be a bit of
excitement down there on Monday when they open.

Eisboch (back from the last trip to hell)




FORD - Found On Road Dead



I can't wait for Toyota to start making something comparable to the 350 -
and then it's bye bye American brands.




FREDO December 12th 05 05:57 AM

déjà vu all over again
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
...

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
To those that read my "trip to hell" back in November where I spend 5
days in a hotel room in Georgia while they fixed my super duty Ford 350
.....

I just got back from my final trip to Florida - picked up the Scout
(another story) and started the trip back to MA. Got to Norfork and
visited Eisboch Jr. and his very pregnant wife, then headed north towing
the Scout. Got as far as Fredricksburg, VA and the new, heavy duty
diesel Ford 350 died again.

After all kinds of debates and decisions, I ended up hiring the tow
company to transport the dead Ford, with a 20' Scout in tow, all the way
from VA to MA.

We dropped off the boat in my driveway, then continued to Plymouth, MA
and dropped off the dead Ford in the dealer's lot. Gonna be a bit of
excitement down there on Monday when they open.

Eisboch (back from the last trip to hell)




FORD - Found On Road Dead


FORD = First On Race Day

IMHO FORD = F%#$&@ Over Rebuilt Dodge



FREDO December 12th 05 05:59 AM

déjà vu all over again :Subaru
 
Not to mention they do not get stuck in snow or ice!!!!!!!!
AWD the only way to drive!!!!

"FREDO" wrote in message
.. .
Subaru's are designed to crumple in order to absorb impact. Also, they are
designed to push the engine and transmission downward under the passenger
compartment in a frontal crash via a "Pitching Stopper" to lessen the
possibility of the engine coming into the passenger compartment. They
consistently receive 5 star ratings from the U.S. government in crash
testing.

A proud owner of a 93 Legacy sedan 148,000 miles, 96 Outback wagon 175,000
miles, 05 Legacy sedan 2100 miles and 00 GMC Z-71 165,000 miles.
All are still running well.

OBTW I just tried some Lucas oil stabilizer for the first time and man
does that stuff work great!


Fredo

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
It is time for the Subaru story again? You know - the one where a guy
stole a Honda 125, shot out of an intersection and my wife broadsided
him - couldn't avoid him? And where the owner of the Honda came to
get his motorcycle, picked it up, started it and drove it home while
the Subaru has to be towed and subsequently was totaled with $9,000
worth of damage?


Probably what saved her life. If she was driving a Ford, there would be a
good chance she would come out with something worse than a bruising.

Plus, do you believe another car would have less damage? Subarus are
extremely solid. Looks what people race at rallies where you drive these,
un modified in many cases, 80 MPH on dirt roads... Show me one American
car that could take that abuse...






Lord Reginald Smithers December 12th 05 06:13 AM

déjà vu all over again :Subaru
 
Before anyone adds Lucas Oil Stabilizer check out this independent review of
the product.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm

It really highlights why you don't want to add any additives to oil.





"FREDO" wrote in message
.. .
Subaru's are designed to crumple in order to absorb impact. Also, they are
designed to push the engine and transmission downward under the passenger
compartment in a frontal crash via a "Pitching Stopper" to lessen the
possibility of the engine coming into the passenger compartment. They
consistently receive 5 star ratings from the U.S. government in crash
testing.

A proud owner of a 93 Legacy sedan 148,000 miles, 96 Outback wagon 175,000
miles, 05 Legacy sedan 2100 miles and 00 GMC Z-71 165,000 miles.
All are still running well.

OBTW I just tried some Lucas oil stabilizer for the first time and man
does that stuff work great!


Fredo

"Dan J.S." wrote in message
...
It is time for the Subaru story again? You know - the one where a guy
stole a Honda 125, shot out of an intersection and my wife broadsided
him - couldn't avoid him? And where the owner of the Honda came to
get his motorcycle, picked it up, started it and drove it home while
the Subaru has to be towed and subsequently was totaled with $9,000
worth of damage?


Probably what saved her life. If she was driving a Ford, there would be a
good chance she would come out with something worse than a bruising.

Plus, do you believe another car would have less damage? Subarus are
extremely solid. Looks what people race at rallies where you drive these,
un modified in many cases, 80 MPH on dirt roads... Show me one American
car that could take that abuse...






-rick- December 12th 05 06:36 AM

déjà vu all over again :Subaru
 

"FREDO" wrote...

Not to mention they do not get stuck in snow or ice!!!!!!!!
AWD the only way to drive!!!!


I love my WRX wagon.



Eisboch December 12th 05 07:52 AM

déjà vu all over again
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

6 liter diesel?


Yup. After the first breakdown I did a bunch of internet searching and
found that this engine, introduced in 2003 to replace the 7.3 L, has had
some serious teething issues but the 2005's (mine) are supposed to have the
problems resolved. It is, however, scheduled to be replaced with yet another
engine in 2007. I also searched GMC and Dodge diesel forums and found both
of them are full of horror stories of problems with the GM Duromax engines
and, in the case of Dodge, transmissions as well. BTW, Ford sells as many
diesel powered trucks as GMC and Dodge combined on a yearly basis.

I suspect a problem again with the high pressure oil pump that was replaced
when it died last month in Savannah. I noticed that there was a small pool
of very clear oil-like fluid under the engine. I am guessing, but I think
it may be the oil used in the high pressure pump that actuates the fuel
injectors.

Surprisingly the salesman that sold me the truck showed up at the dealership
as we were unloading it, even though they were closed. He has promised to
make it right, including a full price credit for another truck if I want. He
acknowledged that some of the 6.0 L engines had problems and he wanted to
check and record the build date of my truck, which turned out to be January,
2005. He then said they may replace the whole engine, depending on the
build date.

I am going to wait and see what the problem is. It may be something like a
connection to the pump that was not tightened properly when it was installed
in Savannah - or something like that. If it is another pump failure - then
I have to think about a replacement truck or replacement engine. Or a
bicycle.

It's been a hell of a week. The day the movers were packing up the Florida
house Mrs. E's car got run over by a Federal Express semi-trailer truck
just as the auto transport company showed up to take it to MA. Mrs. E's
fine, but her little BMW has a hood that looks like an accordian. The next
day when I went to pick up the Scout at the storage place I found the gate
chained and locked and the telephone service disconnected. They had gone
bankrupt the day before and were apparently in court receivership. I got
into the yard by following a guy who opened the gate and drove in. Turns
out he was a mechanic who used to work there and was picking up his tools.
When he opened the gate, I pulled up right behind him and blocked the gate
so they couldn't close it. It was quite a scene as I hooked up the boat
trailer while people were yelling at me that I couldn't take it. I did, but
it's quite a story.

Eisboch



Eisboch December 12th 05 07:54 AM

déjà vu all over again
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Well, I have officially offered to take that pesky truck off Eisboch's
hands...as soon as it is fixed.



I don't know. I can't quite picture you in a F-350 4x4 Harley Davidson
edition.

Eisboch



thunder December 12th 05 08:11 AM

déjà vu all over again
 
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:52:15 -0500, Eisboch wrote:


It's been a hell of a week. The day the movers were packing up the
Florida house Mrs. E's car got run over by a Federal Express semi-trailer
truck just as the auto transport company showed up to take it to MA. Mrs.
E's fine, but her little BMW has a hood that looks like an accordian. The
next day when I went to pick up the Scout at the storage place I found the
gate chained and locked and the telephone service disconnected. They had
gone bankrupt the day before and were apparently in court receivership. I
got into the yard by following a guy who opened the gate and drove in.
Turns out he was a mechanic who used to work there and was picking up his
tools. When he opened the gate, I pulled up right behind him and blocked
the gate so they couldn't close it. It was quite a scene as I hooked up
the boat trailer while people were yelling at me that I couldn't take it.
I did, but it's quite a story.


Geez guy, I'm getting images of that Lil' Abner character, Joe Bfstplk.
I'm glad your wife wasn't injured, and hope Ford makes it right by you.


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